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Incoming titan adjustments

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pmchem
Brutor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#241 - 2012-03-13 15:22:52 UTC
CCP Greyscale wrote:

Titans reduced to 3 maximum locked targets, and base scan resolution reduced to 5


Has CCP considered the effect that scanres change will have on Titans attempting to lock POS, carriers, and dreads? Totally ignoring the anti-subcap changes (I am ok with not blapping subs), the game just became significantly less fun to play for someone in a Titan. You've made them as fun as dreads, which are terrible unfun ships that people in Titans have paid 75b to stop flying.

I predict there will soon be character bazaar sale threads for Titan pilots who only have Jump Portal Generation -- and no gun or DD skills.

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Adding a "minimum sig radius" attribute to turrets, below which damage would fall off regardless of tracking

Too big a change and more technical work than we actually needed to solve the problem.


This would have been the correct fix, which I lobbied for in private and which xttz asked for in public. Your tracking changes do NOT address the fact that if someone is at zero transversal on a gun-armed ship, tracking is totally irrelevant. With enough ships, there will always be a capital at near-zero transversal to given target. Your scanres changes just make life miserable for a titan doing anything other than bridging. It's a terrible "fix".


Just remove titans from the game until you can take the time to do it right. (insert obligatory "forever" joke here)

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florin2001ro
No.Holes.Barred
#242 - 2012-03-13 15:23:18 UTC
YAYYYYYY greath job CCP us allways , this is not a issue in game because some alliances dont have balls to fight [ to use them at least] why u just dont remove them from game and we know something , u just do what goons want in game and btw goons have more caps in game so...........u cant nerf ******** or maybe 10 rifters will kill m super after next patch or a crusader will bump a huge ship , u should fix first time your brain and RMT in this game u should start play eve a little , a lot of u know just way to bank , so try to fix this game or go towards and destroy it ..................anyway who cares now is to obvios ...is going down ....and at least remeber something [ U EAT CCP BECAUSE WE PLAY]
The Mittani
State War Academy
Caldari State
#243 - 2012-03-13 15:23:38 UTC  |  Edited by: The Mittani
Titan pilots make up .2% of the player population, if we assume 350k players and ~730 titans according to Diagoras' tweets.

~hi~
Ishihiro tanaka
Viziam
Amarr Empire
#244 - 2012-03-13 15:24:26 UTC
Psst, we lost them, don't tell anyone because of all the SPIES in this forum ok?

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gfldex
#245 - 2012-03-13 15:25:01 UTC
Faction painters are gonna get pricy!

If you take all the sand out of the box, only the cat poo will remain.
Vile rat
GoonWaffe
Goonswarm Federation
#246 - 2012-03-13 15:25:22 UTC
Suzdal wrote:

omfg so you want us to believe that the fuckton of B isk you generate per month with the tech is entirely spent in drakes for the pilots? LolLol
you should know that all major alliances have reinbursement programs. for instance all our fleet ships are for free and still we have the isk to build a huge supercap fleet.

i remember a few years ago you had the biggest titan fleet. we got into a system and all our fleet was doomsdayed by just one of your titan pilots. we lost everything while you were doing a titan conga and we did not moan. we just adapted to the new situation. now one question for you: what have you done with all those titans?


No, we provide peacetime (not in fleet) reimbursements as well. You wanna just roam around doing whatever? Sure, why not use our tech money to help. We invest in our people down to the little dude in a rifter, we don't just cater to the veteran so he can never log in again.
The Mittani
State War Academy
Caldari State
#247 - 2012-03-13 15:25:41 UTC
florin2001ro wrote:
YAYYYYYY greath job CCP us allways , this is not a issue in game because some alliances dont have balls to fight [ to use them at least] why u just dont remove them from game and we know something , u just do what goons want in game and btw goons have more caps in game so...........u cant nerf ******** or maybe 10 rifters will kill m super after next patch or a crusader will bump a huge ship , u should fix first time your brain and RMT in this game u should start play eve a little , a lot of u know just way to bank , so try to fix this game or go towards and destroy it ..................anyway who cares now is to obvios ...is going down ....and at least remeber something [ U EAT CCP BECAUSE WE PLAY]


A compelling case for the cause of Titanhavers.

~hi~
Ikoma Sunblazer
Einherjar Rising
#248 - 2012-03-13 15:26:27 UTC
@ CCP Greyscale.

Did you intend to nerf shield titans even more?

A fully shield tanked titan without sensor boosters takes 64 seconds to lock another titan, god knows how long to lock a capital. Add in TiDi and, well you get the picture. Does that seem reasonable to you?
Tector
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#249 - 2012-03-13 15:26:38 UTC
Dez Affinity wrote:
C'sandre wrote:

Nice Sir Bruce. And I can't decide which I love more, how seriously you take your Eve: Online A Bad Game or how bad you are at titans shouldn't kill subcaps even at low transversal and optimal range.


I remember when Goons didn't take EVE seriously and then they became infested with pubbie faggots.



Yes but Elitist Ops left us for PL eventually so you're only telling half the story.
Tippia
Sunshine and Lollipops
#250 - 2012-03-13 15:29:39 UTC
Ikoma Sunblazer wrote:
Did you intend to nerf shield titans even more?

A fully shield tanked titan without sensor boosters takes 64 seconds to lock another titan, god knows how long to lock a capital. Add in TiDi and, well you get the picture. Does that seem reasonable to you?
…so use signal amplifiers if your midslots are that important?
Ikoma Sunblazer
Einherjar Rising
#251 - 2012-03-13 15:32:01 UTC  |  Edited by: Ikoma Sunblazer
Tippia wrote:
Ikoma Sunblazer wrote:
Did you intend to nerf shield titans even more?

A fully shield tanked titan without sensor boosters takes 64 seconds to lock another titan, god knows how long to lock a capital. Add in TiDi and, well you get the picture. Does that seem reasonable to you?
…so use signal amplifiers if your midslots are that important?


Dunno if troll but for a proper shield tank you need the use of mid and lowslots.

edit: Not to mention they are half as effective and don't exist past T2
Gerdan BloodELF
Tactical Farmers.
Pandemic Horde
#252 - 2012-03-13 15:32:03 UTC
Id like to hear from other CSM members and their opinion of these changes other than the goon representatives.
Tippia
Sunshine and Lollipops
#253 - 2012-03-13 15:33:46 UTC
Ikoma Sunblazer wrote:
Dunno if troll but for a proper shield tank you need the use of mid and lowslots.
Then the lack of a sensor booster isn't really your problem, is it?
testobjekt
Goonswarm Federation Human Resources
#254 - 2012-03-13 15:33:48 UTC
Ikoma Sunblazer wrote:
@ CCP Greyscale.

Did you intend to nerf shield titans even more?

A fully shield tanked titan without sensor boosters takes 64 seconds to lock another titan, god knows how long to lock a capital. Add in TiDi and, well you get the picture. Does that seem reasonable to you?



Please explain why TiDi influences the situation outside of player perception.
Sardaros
Dunc Are
#255 - 2012-03-13 15:34:40 UTC
End of Tech Team or BoB Mk whatever
BioZvin
The Acheron
Unforgiving.
#256 - 2012-03-13 15:35:26 UTC
The Mittani wrote:
Titan pilots make up .002% of the player population, if we assume 350k players and ~730 titans according to Diagoras' tweets.


So titan pilots don't have more accounts, and btw titans do not shoot sub caps if there are caps on field FYI.

I understand why you want this to happen, but don't tell me just because you will not commit that you can not. 92D.
Pesadel0
Sebiestor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#257 - 2012-03-13 15:35:52 UTC
Man CCP you really do know hot to stir **** up, isn't the tracking nerf all that is necessary? i mean tracking titans have poor tank already, the signture is fail nerf and so is the locking 3 foes,.

And to the goons saying that tracking titans can hit titans well , learn to tengu bros, it might help.
Engad Tanon
School of Applied Knowledge
Caldari State
#258 - 2012-03-13 15:36:54 UTC
Mayby some CCp emplyoers have time start find new job. Leave the titans alone. You have been nerfed them enough. Why the hek i need investmen my isk and my time to get big touys when u will come with goon tears and insolvency and just nerf them again without any good long term planning.

Please think twice, then come back.
Xantor Bludberry
#259 - 2012-03-13 15:38:21 UTC
CCP Greyscale wrote:
Hi everyone,
These changes should hit TQ some time in April.

Not 1st April, I hope?
Andski
Science and Trade Institute
Caldari State
#260 - 2012-03-13 15:39:17 UTC
BioZvin wrote:
The Mittani wrote:
Titan pilots make up .002% of the player population, if we assume 350k players and ~730 titans according to Diagoras' tweets.


So titan pilots don't have more accounts, and btw titans do not shoot sub caps if there are caps on field FYI.

I understand why you want this to happen, but don't tell me just because you will not commit that you can not. 92D.





let's be generous and assume that every titan pilot has 4 accounts, that's still insignificant

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