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Not bad fights only considering the age of the character and the fact you had off grid boosting it explains how those fights happened.
This fight http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpage&v=vn1DbCaBsBE#t=56s really shows how pvp in null sec mostly works.
Jump in and get attacked by large fleet without being able to kill anything important.

Also here http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpage&v=vn1DbCaBsBE#t=3047s is where you lost a 4.4bil isk machariel after being jumped by a proper fleet.

I bet that fleet sure liked the killmail they got, since as we know eve online pvp is all about the killmails.

For the rest not bad made intro and nice editing of the movie, however it doesnt show anything about eve online pvp which most people didnt already know.

You should probably stop ganking stuff in a single system in Aridia and actually roam - most gangs out there are actually engagable from a solo/small gang perspective. Also laughing at your comment regarding a "proper fleet" - which fleet doctrine or fit commonly calls for a scrambler on a Nado? Whilst effective in this situation, it's hardly standard and Garmon can't be blamed for not realising it before he got scrambled.

Nice video Garmon, using your neut more often would help you out greatly (neuting out Vagas which run away, that Nado which scrambled you) as would overheating the guns more often (easy to say in hindsight, hard to get right in the field though...)

Great video all in all.

I actually think Daisai's post is really good because it brings up how I suspect a lot of people feel about nullsec pvp and pvp in general. I think a lot of players feel that you either blob people, beat others by having a lot of SP and expensive stuff or have it done to you.

I think this is a misguided view and a lot of people enjoy the game by soloing or pvping in small enough groups such that every gang member matters to the outcome of an engagement. As well as doing it in cheap ships. For the people that play like this we think it's the most fun you can have playing eve. Hopefully we can bring this side of the game more into the spotlight with our new project.

This video is more of a showcase of really hi-end stuff and I think that can be off putting for a lot of people because they see this and it isn't accessible for them.

I personally enjoy videos like the recent Perseverance release and G7 more than the hi-end stuff like G8, G9 and Fon's latest even though the latter are techinically much better. Videos like Perseverance are more accessible and we can more easily see ourselves in the same ships and situations. At the same time though I can appreciate the hi-end stuff for what it is.

I think for people like Garmon they've already done the t1 cruisers, bcs and frigates and have become more interested in how far they can push the odds with a single combat ship. And this is what you see here.

I think it's a bit misguided to suggest he only wins engagements by using billion isk setups and links etc. You can easily see from the video the amount of decision making that needs to take place in the course of a single fight and no amount of ISK can make tactical decisions for you.

Granted some of those engagements were only possible due to the setup he used but that simply means he was flying what he had to it's limits. Were he flying something different, he would have to work within different limits. The engagements would be different rather than non-existent.

I never suggested he wins because of his billions isk fits, the thing i suggested is that his movie shows how eve online pvp is and doesnt show anything we already didnt know.

If you want to pvp you first have to change your clone , losing 4 hours of skill training because of the rediculous 24 hours cooldown.
Also the chances of finding a good small group pvp fight are way smaller then coming across a gatecamp.

Also that pvp in eve online is without any form of gain apart from what you might call "fun" doesnt help eve online pvp either.

Good small group pvp fights are often against gatecamps?

And why are you playing this game if your end goal isn't fun?

"If you want to pvp you first have to change your clone , losing 4 hours of skill training because of the rediculous 24 hours cooldown
Also the chances of finding a good small group pvp fight are way smaller then coming across a gatecamp

Also that pvp in eve online is without any form of gain apart from what you might call "fun" doesnt help eve online pvp either." Quote >




You dont have you're heart in pvp, it is in keeping you're clone skills as high as possible this is the problem.


If your a sabre / dictor pilot your life exspectancy must be the lowest in the game, so to worry about such things as clones breeds the wrong mindest to furfill your duty., as for rewards, maybe your the lucky one who bubles garmon and all his snakes/ implants and can put his corpse up for sale/ or display.

or as you put i

"I bet that fleet sure liked the killmail they got, since as we know eve online pvp is all about the killmails.

more then this KM is enjoying how you get the good fight, a gank , if you do not enjoy having a laugh with some good gang members and avoiding every trap this game has to throw at you then pvp will never be fun or rewarding, better just to mission and keep you skill points high, you will gain skills in your book but not at pvp



I really enjoy these videos because it is the cream of eve, the very best ships with maxed skills, stuff a lowly frigget pilot dreams of, flown by someone who can do them justice. They show nothing new>? how many people in eve have seen on thier own screne an Adrestia let alone in action, probelry 1. I can read the stats and from flying rax/ dram/ lach and try to imagine from Kil2's pod cast what it feels like but its allot eaiser watching the video/ and more enjoyable.,



Having said that there are plenty of people who go out every day and get a good fight in thrashers, drakes/ canes ruptures or bait ships, and Id think if you follow up the "eve made easy" you will see this perspective.

I feel allot about this simply because there are so many moments when people could have a good fight and dont from fear of loosing... so I do see your side of the coin but when one truely commits to pvp there are fights to be found in most corners of space even if you do carry a name with you. Last night was a fun night and would not have been so withgought all the mix of people just want to blob/ just want to fight, just want to gang in a gate camp, one v one, all those different mind sets is what makes eve


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I'll believe it when i see it


Firstly I want to thank you for the time and effort that you invested in pvp in order to bring us entertaining movies like this. This also goes for everyone else that spends time producing vids for the eve community to enjoy.

This is a great vid Garmon, been waiting with high expectations ever since i heard another was on the way. You certainly didn't disappoint!! Also really like the idea of the new website, will def be checking that out.

Seeing the Zealot, Ishtar and Sacrilege footage just makes me wanna bust out those ships again and pew. Have to ask how you manage to put up with Merc's TS outbursts at critical moments? Had me in stitches lol.

Only one point tho, @ 54:37 into the HQ version this message appears... "THE TOP RANKED PVP CORPORATION" Where are you getting this information from? I only ask as I was under the impression that, that was us

Probably the best pvp video i have watched in a long time. Many thanks for sharing this footage with us Garmon.

I don't really understand why people are dissapointed with you using high end gear in the video. There is hundreds of videos out there with people using standard ships/fittings etc. When i was dl'ing this video i wanted and expected to see these kinds of high end gangs and thats what i got.

The website is a great idea. The fact you guys don't mind helping eve players better their pvp skills by sharing your tactics and knowledge is great.

My favourite part of the video was the cynabal clips.

Well done

Seconding this this.

It is work like these from Garmon and others taking the time to put together fantastic material for every one else who also enjoys the game. Most people are not anywhere close to being on the same level of Eve play like these guys are. The fact that they are willing to lay this stuff down and put it out there for all to see and learn from is more than anyone could ask for.

I personally thank all of you guys for putting out what I consider to be educational material to learn from as well as the obvious, gfgfgfgf.