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Ways to increase security rating without the need to kill.

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Vanessa Serenity
Aliastra
Gallente Federation
#1 - 2012-03-11 04:48:05 UTC
I posted this in another thread but realized that it might have been better suited here

Vanessa Serenity wrote:
I would like to add yet another view on the Security Status

"quick background"
When I started playing EVE I found the possibility to be able to advance in a game without having to kill everything I see around every corner to be fascinating. So I decided to take an oath to do no harm (helping others to do harm not included). I have specialized in support ships, command ships and covert ops and have not fired a single round of ammo to this day

Recently I came across an agent for Blood Raiders on my sneaky trips through null-sec. I was offered an important storyline mission which asked for 20 Malachite Cytoserocin. Since it did not involve killing I just had to complete it

"the problem"
Upon completion I realized my security status had dropped down to -0.04
My security status does not rise when I aid others to kill rats and I can not do missions to increase my security status either

I would really like to see some way of increasing security status without having to kill.

Maybe difficult missions from concord agents at their headquarter?
Example:
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Greetings "playername".

Our intel department have picked up an encrypted message about the possibility of a meeting between two high rank pirates in "random npc pirate corps". We have only been able to decipher what time and solar system (only occurring in low/null-sec) the meeting is supposed to be held in. You must scan the system to find the location of the meeting and then bring this "extremely-short-ranged-high-tech-remote-listening-gadget" within 15km of the meeting location without being detected. The use of a cloaking device is needed for this mission. Record as much information as you can and stay hidden until all parties have left to avoid detection. Return with the recorded information for "a tiny increase in your security rating" and "maybe a concord LP or two".

The meeting is to be held in "low-sec system" at "03:40am server time"
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Adding a set time would prevent easy grind of security rating and having it taking place in low/null-sec adds more risk and fun to it. And that you may not get these missions too often.

Other missions does not have to involve cloaking/scanning but preferably some more advanced skills/tools to complete.
Wolodymyr
Breaking Ambitions
#2 - 2012-03-11 09:08:58 UTC
How about just straight up bribing concord. You give them isk, they give you sec status.

I honestly think PoCo based sov is a good idea https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=1417544

Valei Khurelem
#3 - 2012-03-11 11:09:53 UTC
Wolodymyr wrote:
How about just straight up bribing concord. You give them isk, they give you sec status.


I like that idea better, the only problem is this will be used to get 0.0 players back into high sec who will grief and gank, that said it's a good idea, I think you should also be able to bribe pirate factions and high sec factions too because mission running being the only way to increase standing is just daft.

That said, there should be a downside to this, if you keep repeatedly bribing CONCORD or some other high sec faction the 0.0 factions should start hating you and vice versa that way it's not an easy win situation.

"don't get us wrong, we don't want to screw new players, on the contrary. The core problem here is that tech 1 frigates and cruisers should be appealing enough to be viable platforms in both PvE and PvP."   - CCP Ytterbium

Aqriue
Center for Advanced Studies
Gallente Federation
#4 - 2012-03-11 16:35:56 UTC
Vanessa Serenity wrote:
When I started playing EVE I found the possibility to be able to advance in a game without having to kill everything I see around every corner to be fascinating. So I decided to take an oath to do no harm (helping others to do harm not included). I have specialized in support ships, command ships and covert ops and have not fired a single round of ammo to this day

lol you are doing it wrong. AFK cloaky, off grid buffer, neutrol repper Roll. Point, Click, Set, and BANG! Fastest way to accomplish anything. Don't want to fire...then you deal with the long ass grind to fix it.

Vanessa Serenity wrote:
"the problem"
Upon completion I realized my security status had dropped down to -0.04
My security status does not rise when I aid others to kill rats and I can not do missions to increase my security status either

I would really like to see some way of increasing security status without having to kill.

Kill what? Players? Thats ******* easy, don't fire on them. NPC Pirates? So, you make like all **** buddy with bloods then come back to highsec and slap around Serp/Gurista/Angels. Easy as American pie...pie yummmm *drools*

Want to make it a challenge to not fire on anything, thats cool. Take one action that affects sec status, well thats going to hurt and its going to hurt hard.
Asudem
Black Spear.
#5 - 2012-03-12 00:43:30 UTC
bump
Vanessa Serenity
Aliastra
Gallente Federation
#6 - 2012-03-12 06:12:23 UTC
Wolodymyr wrote:
How about just straight up bribing concord. You give them isk, they give you sec status.

No. I do not like implementation of lazy easymode ways of doing things. The game should be made so you have to play it to achieve things.

It does not have to be missions like the one I posted. But some way to increase it other than killing npcs trying to defend their territory from the unstoppable army of immortal races or killing the unstoppable army of immortal scumbags from those races that has gotten bounty on their head.