EVE New Citizens Q&A

Those Thorx fits don't need more buffer to be effective, they need their plate and the rigs plug resist. They punch well above their weight. 4 thorax losses @ 30 mil a pop, but they killed almost 3 billion worth of ships.

Yo do realize the AF fits with the missing slots are from before they added the extra slots hey? Crucibel had this one change to AF where they added extra slots. You might have missed that, so on killmails from back then it appears the ships arn't fitted completely.

My bestower fits killed more ships than you.
The crucifier was used to catch a Dramiel and I was used as a warp in. Yes this was a suicide catch.
Navy Mega was fit for PVP, I don't mission, Good loss for the amount of ships that popped it.
Amarr Auto fits are used to absorb alot of damage. The Auto harbinger of mine killed T3's. The 220mm AC Prochecy is the kind of ship you avoid when you see it stting on a gate. Since you know that thing will have almost 170ehp and a gang waiting to pounch.

The last bestower was somebody elses ship i moved out after popping a hanger in a WH, just to late as re-enforcements arrived.

Yes you picked out the fits that looked wrong to you, yet there is nothing wrong. You even went as far back when I was in the game for less than 2 months.

EHP means nothing if they can burn through your ship alot quicker through your resist holes. So yes.. once again, I say, you suck at fitting ships. The Thorax ships gain 10k ehp adding trimarks but leaves massive resist holes plugging the cruisers main 3 resist holes helps you survive longer.

I flysolo alot, I survive fights where I am always outnumbered, I know what I'm talking about. Everything you responded with to decredit me in some way clearly shows your lack of understanding when it comes to fitting ships, especially for PVP.

I need to be efficient with my fits. Their sole purpose is to fight and survive. I think I will trust my proven fits and abilities over your knowledge of fitting ships. I can backup my fits that they work, you can't.

That may be true but what you really DON'T need is a mentor who's crap while making it sounds like he's godly. Perhaps he knows a lot on carebearisms but what he surely doesn't know is actual pvp and fitting. Listen to Petrus, he's right on the money. If you want help with pvp or other aspects you can also contact me ingame.

Barking louder than you can bite generally creates a reaction in EVE, making claims he can't back up is what made this thread into what it is.

Yeah that less then 2 EANMs are cause of the before mentioned stacking penalty, a GOOD fitter would know that more slots of EANMs would just be a waste of space on your fit. As they hardly give bonus while taking away slots and ISK for better modules.

And you say you want to teach people to PVP while you personally are always avoiding PvP, how can you teach someone else if you run away from it yourself.

Petrus and Cannibal Kane, I'm going to have to ask you guys to quit this discussion or leave my thread. I tried to explain why you're wrong on your own terms, and all you did was rage more all over my thread. You shouldn't even have brought that subject up in the first place. The very fact that you felt you had to check out my killboard to verify my ability to help new players is exactly the attitude I don't want here. There is nothing I have ever learned from a pilot's killboard that I couldn't figure out in 5 minutes of talking to him.

So cut the crap, folks. Let's get back on topic.

You do not own this thread, ergo you do not get the right to tell people to get out of it. They are not raging, they are explaining why you are wrong...Not because they think that you'll change, but to save any poor newbies who think you might actually know what you're talking about.

Your fits are beyond awful. No one who knows anything about the game is going to use a punisher as a 0.0 blockade runner. In fact, even limiting yourself to t1 frigates, the punisher is about the worst possible option available because it's slow. You did not have a single mod on there that would make it good for avoiding gatecamps or hauling anything. You did not have a prop mod to burn back to the gate.

KBs lack context, that much is true. When Petrus mentioned that punisher loss you received a chance to defend yourself and explain why it made sense at the time. Your explanation actually manages to make you look worse.


At this point I'm guessing you're just a troll. Either way, though, there are tons of people who actually know what they're doing in EVE and thus I highly advise any new players reading this to stay away.

"Mentor" implies that he knows more than you do. I'd actually bet that the average 2 week old newbie fits ships better than the OP. I do not say this to insult the OP, I say it because you will literally become worse at the game if you listen to his advice.

In truth I respect the intentions of anyone who wants to help newbies, and I'd probably be a bit bitter if I attempted to do so only to be told repeatedly that I was awful. However, your posting is just going to derp up the learning process of some newbies and I wish to stop that.



You've been given an opportunity to explain while a propless punisher (among other things) is a remotely viable fit and you haven't done that. You've done a lot to show incompetence and little to show competence.

Weirdly enough I'm not posting here to dump on you, I'm posting here because a newbie is not capable of determining who is competent and who is not, and thus they need help figuring out which of the people who want to help them are actually capable of doing so.

You're not trying to "help newbies", you're just flashing your e-peen and you're afraid I'll hurt it by suggesting that your killboard resume isn't all you think it is.

Even if you are less than ideal.... even if you war much less than ideal... I applaud you for taking on mentors!!!

Truthfully, the best way to learn something is to teach it to others. I just ask, when you're teaching others, that you don't dictate exactly what they need to do, but rather explain why you fit like you fit. Also, realize that they might know something you don't, and that you still have a lot to learn.

Exactly. You bear the mark of a true mentor, my friend. I wish there were more like you in this world, and less placators.

I agree with everything you say here. I never insinuated that I'm particularly good at anything, except fitting ships. I don't know where all these other accusations about me came from. I always listen to other people's advice. But that's not to say I believe everything I hear. I'm usually a leg up from the majority on understanding how things work on any level, just because I'm always paying attention and accepting that I don't know jack **** fro the outset. Usually the people who rat on me the most vehemently are those who feel their limited views threatened by my radical ideas and out-of-the-box thinking.

One thing I never understood is why the majority of experts in any subject consider their loyal supporters to be greater evidence of their wisdom than any actual skills they can throw on the table. People expect the same out of me, yet I'm too busy fulfilling my own damn dreams to be bothered appeasing the sheep majority. You'll all have to excuse me if I don't conform to your limited world view, I believe I was meant for bigger and better things.

But I'll go a step above some of you and not bother rubbing it in your faces. I don't have any reason to brag about my decisions. Most of you disagree with me anyway. Well do me a favor and let me live my life the way I want to.

I'm probably better at fitting ships than any of you. That doesn't mean any of you are bad at it. It just means I have a keen understanding of the numbers and how they interact, so I can generally make expert fits that rival the best anywhere, just by playing with the modules a bit on a ship I just learned to fly. It doesn't make me better at pvp. Lets face it, I suck at pvp. I know all the little things people say, and I could probably teach pvp skills as well as most of you. But when it comes to doing it all, my mind is too slow. I can't keep up. And I lose interest anyway.

So basically what I'm getting at is stop making assumptions about what I say. It seems to me that when I said "I'm good at fitting ships" you guys all heard "I'm good at everything pertaining to ships". I never said that.

And lastly, the reason I'm not discussing the punisher is because if I explain why it was fit the way it was, you guys won't even listen. So just drop it. Hate on me for the punisher if you want, we all have lapses of judgement. But my lapse in that case is not nearly as great as you all seem to believe. Hint: there was nothing wrong with the fit. What you guys don't know is the where and the when. You weren't there, you don't know what I was doing with it.