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Subs have past 400k and are rising but sure.

Thank you for that ansver....
But....
I would like to hear that from CCP

So basically I'm going to have to respec and train 3 new BC skills to V to get back to where I am now. Can you at least throw in a bonus remap?

They will work out reimbursing skill points and letting you reuse them, my goodness quit freaking out people.

First: Death to ship tiers! Yes! Thank you!

Now, a suggestion: Flip the script: Split Spaceship Command into 4 [Faction] Spaceship Command skills; give everyone who has Spaceship Command all four of the new skills trained to the level they had Spaceship Command trained. Do the same with Advanced Spaceship Command. Then make Frigate, Cruiser and Battleship generic. Reimburse everyone who has more than one factional skill trained.

For bonus points, move Logistics, Covert Ops, and other specialization skills to tier 1, and have the different ship roles get bonuses based on the capsuleer rank in those skills. At [Role Skill] V and [Ship Skill] IV, or something like that, you get to fly the T2 equivalents.

Finally, if you lower the Covetor's requirement to Mining Barge IV, aren't you obsoleting the Retriever in the same way that the quick train from I to III obsoletes the... whatever it's called? The littlest mining barge that nobody flies? Maybe the T1 mining barges should get roles, too.

Apparently I've been doing it wrong and should have been using propulsion mods and nano-fibers instead of plates, resist mods and heat sinks....

Wow you guys, just wow.

First off you buried the lead; this article should have been entitled "Teircide!!!! We are doing it!" Explain the ship lines and then go into the amazingly controversial idea of messing with the skill trees by splitting Destroyer and Battlecruisers by race, then explain why. People would love you before they get to the "Urrrrk!?" moment in the skill trees.

Which by the way I don't buy your reasoning. You could have done the same thing to uncomplicated the requirements without that change.

This way you introduce a huge issue of SP reimbursement and also increased training times for new players to catch up to cross-train and fly pirate faction ships.

Did this go by the CSM? What did they say?

World of Spaceships!

This is revolution not evolution and chances are that everything will be horribly unbalanced if this happens - judging on how well CCP knows their own ship types.

But the real question is if this is really, really the best you can do CCP? While the player base is screaming for the next Apocrypha do you honestly think this is the best way to spend your precious development time?

Who are you and what did you do with the real CCP? This is great! I can't wait to see how shaking the anthill ends up.

Well, tbh I like how the new skill tree looks like.

However, what I see here is lack of powerpoint and flow chart skills what and how to present the awesomeness to the higher-ups in the corporation so through understanding they could.. well, they cannot, so your only chance is to summon the powers of seventh hell of spreadsheets and show them how the player population (accounts) would definitely grow which would mean added value to the shareholders investments.

If you want to streamline the ship progression and specializations are based on the hulls in stead ie. that frigate (+destroyer) hulls are no longer the requirement for cruiser counterparts (covops/recons, dictors/hics etc) and cruiser specs are no longer requirement for command ships (logi/hacs) this can be done without splitting the destroyer and BC skills into 4 parts.

Imagine all the people... well, too bad John Lennon isn't here now, but prolly turning over in his grave. Here is my few cents into the matter:

Leave the current destroyer/bc generic skills as... they magically already are, but:

Introduce cruiser skill to require x ranks of destroyers (don't you boy go near that cruiser before you have learned to handle the manliness of those destroyers or I will have you thrown into the airlock!).
..and BS to require BC 4 with the current racial cruiser 4 requirement

This would remove the need of adding SP to people or changes to the current skills in example of faster training times.

However if you are planning to drop the BS5 requirement from the capitals, just don't. But if you MUST do it (for some odd reason to get people fast into capitals) then you really need to take a look at the T2 BSes as well since hitting into Dread faster than T2 BS hull is just.. well, if there must be more capitals... add variation.

However if you must do it, then you must, since someone in a neon-yellow collar shirt with pink bow-tie (bow-ties are not cool) said so:

Allow an option for people to refund their BS5 -> 4 (then the player can either forfeit or accept the refund (per racial) - own choice)

(Or if you feel lazy, just add option 'refund all' (could get rid of some none used skills and spent them somewhere else))

- J

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