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And here I was worried they were getting back on the right track. Thank god the incompetent CCP I know and love is back.

For the love of christ, this is a terrible, terrible idea. Don't you dare take away the ability to train generic battlecruisers/destroyers. That's a ray of hope for the new player that they wont be spending months in training hell just to be able to play with the big boys and their cookie cutter fleets.

Very true. I just like the way they build off eachother. It makes you feel like you're specializing more if you have a few prereqs related to the ship you wanna fly, rather than a newb saying "Oh I want to fly a bigger covop ship, lemme just train this one skill to level 1 and voila!"

I realize they may be trying to make the game "easier" for new people, they seem to be destroying the immersion that I've grown fond of.

CCP, I hope you figure out the skill reimbursement in a way, that the players can fly every ship they can fly at the moment. Fore example : If a player has BC V today, giving the players as much skill points as needed to train all racial BC to V.

It suggest to give players the necessery skills to train the ships they can actually fly. For example, if a player has Amarr and caldari cruiser at III and BC V. The Amarr and Caldari BC skill at 0 + skillpoints to train all four BC to V

ok ....

first, you made me log on to this stinking ****** forums...
second, what the freaky deaky feck is wrong with you guys.

"Nothing is written in stone yet..."
UP YOURS!

I guess you will push it through anywayz.

-2 paying accounts.

This whole skill rebalancing seems to made under the pretense that all races have ships to fit every role. Which is not only wrong, but would be destructive to gameplay
Races have different focuses, strengths and weaknesses. By increasing time to cross-train different races, you are by extention limiting peoples options for fitting into the situation at hand.

This also seems very limiting on new players getting into null-sec fleets. I spent a good month to be able to fly the races needed in our fleet doctrines, and your proposed change would make my character semi useless in fleets for up to 1/6 of a year. Im not sure where this is supposed to help the game
I would not enjoy spending 2+ months waiting to get in on the action I stepped into 0.0 for.

By going away from the tier based system and into a more role-based focus you would either have t
A) Rebalance all ships so that all races have one ship or more that fits every role you wish to have. Thus making all ships less distinctive to make the pain for cross-training tolerable again in exchange for simpler gameplay where you have less options on customizing your fleet to any real advantage
B) Keep the ship/race diversity and basicly shoehorn players into one shiptype/role or force them to cross-train to be able to experience the diverse gameplay or be useful in groups

The double edged nature of group gameplay is that when it is working, its more fun, but when something goes wrong for 1, it can ruin the day for the rest of the group.
The more optimal approach to skilltraining would be making it EASIER to fly a new (T1) ship type or race by lowering skill requirements to advance from 4 to 3. To get everyone where they want to be faster, and let their skills train when they are flying that ship and getting better at using it. Instead of some arbitary counter reaching zero so you can go out and actually start playing

P.S. CCP ... Y.. Somethng!! wrote
Attack vessels: Made for hit and run assault, or flanking opportunities. Have great damage and mobility, but average defense. Similar in role with cavalry. EVE examples: Armageddon, Megathron, Tempest, Oracle, Thorax, Hurricane,[b] Dominix, Myrmidon.[/b

When has the Dominix and Myrmidon have been known for their speed or DPS?
In fact, when talking about Gallente. I have alot of questions about gallente
* Why does the T2 Drone Cruiser(Ishtar) have 125 in bandwidth while the T2 Drone Battlecruiser(Eos) has 75
* Why does the Drone boats have to sacrifice most of its DPS to be able to do Electronic warfare drones, while any other race drops alot less with equally as effective ECM drones
The Myrmidon does most of its DPS from Drones, while the Hurricane can drop the same ammount of Hornet ECM drones, and be equally as efficient.
* Why does blasters require you to be so up close, but none of their ships really have the ability to dictate range
The already pretty awesome Loki gets a web bonus, despite its ability to hit with autocannons at range. While the Proteus who needs to be close are unable to get there as easy

All of this sounds awesome, completely and utter awesome. The destroyer and BC thing makes sense to me and I assume the reimbursement will go over fine.

Being able to use the lower teir ships for specific purposes and seeing that possibility for new ships is AWESOME.

Personally I think the support ships should have high mobility to counter act their low defense.

Also, have a look at the turret and missile systems, the way they work now would still lend itself to making BCs the back bone of fleets and not the BSes since BCs using medium guns make them the perfect balance between BS DPS/tank and cruiser mobility. They still should have that balance but BSes should still be better/viable.

WHAT DID YOU DO WITH THE REAL CCP?

Seriously though - killing the tier system is something the player base has wanted for YEARS now, and finally it's on the horizon. I'm very excited at what this means for the future of Eve. People wanted new ships? Well, something like this will give us a dozen ships (or more) per race all at once.

This will keep PvP interesting for a long time to come. ♥

CCP Soundwave, nerfing eve for the greater goon, yet another change that aids his old alliance in eve, favourtism? I think so way to go!

Edit: Before Denial of aiding his old alliance/Goons defending soundwave

A proper SP reimbursement will be the huge headache by itself. But lets not forget the somehow smaller but still real annoyance. Skillbooks.

If I will be reimbursed not with skills I will need to fly the same ships I can now, but just with a pile of free SP, I still will need to acquire new skillbooks. Even if reimbursed with ISK, you still need to get them from somewhere they are seeded. For a many that may become a serious annoyance - wormholes, again. I guess it will be "not appealing" as well.

In general, no matter how much work will be put to prepare this process, it will still cause a big inconvenience for many, and will be perceived even as a bigger. As always.
I think, a simple "streamlining of skills" is not worth it at all. A change for a sake of change. Potential better ship balancing, however, is. I just want to ask if CCP realizes that putting that inconvenience onto players bounds them to that big commitment of a much better balancing. I don't want to suffer through this process only to see a balancing task forgotten again half-done.

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