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Looking for a new player to mentor in the ways of ship combat

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Reaver Glitterstim
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#1 - 2012-03-05 05:10:41 UTC
If you're new and want to get a head start on flying internet spaceships the right way, I can help you out, completely free of course. I'm just bored and I like helping new people. You can trust that I'm not scamming you because I'll be giving you cheap handouts here and there along the way, a lot to you perhaps but little to me.

Learning the ropes of ship handling from a player is vastly better than trying to go by those stupid frustrating tutorials. They teach you little of anything useful, and in the end you'll find flying EVE ships to be confusing as all heck. It's pretty easy once you get the hang of it, but very difficult to figure out on your own.

So make a reply here or hit me up in-game if you're interested in being mentored for the next few day or weeks. I can teach you any type of ship combat you're interested in up as far as anything you're likely to be able to fly, plus I could definitely use the practice myself if you're interested in trying out some pvp combat.

FT Diomedes: "Reaver, sometimes I wonder what you are thinking when you sit down to post."

Frostys Virpio: "We have to give it to him that he does put more effort than the vast majority in his idea but damn does it sometime come out of nowhere."

Roland Renoir
Pator Tech School
Minmatar Republic
#2 - 2012-03-05 06:59:29 UTC
I'll look you up as soon as I got some ship to fly (not those things we got at start, the ones I have). So, gimme a month, maybe two. :P

"Give a man fish and you'll feed him for a day. Teach him how to fish and you'll feed him for his life."

Reaver Glitterstim
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#3 - 2012-03-05 08:24:25 UTC
You can fly real ships in your first day or two, and I can show you how. By the time a month has passed, you could be an experienced pilot.

FT Diomedes: "Reaver, sometimes I wonder what you are thinking when you sit down to post."

Frostys Virpio: "We have to give it to him that he does put more effort than the vast majority in his idea but damn does it sometime come out of nowhere."

Keno Skir
#4 - 2012-03-05 12:04:01 UTC  |  Edited by: Keno Skir
Not to take away from the OP, he is older than me and likely a skilled pilot.

I would also like to extend the same offer to any new pilots feeling a little lost in the early game. I dont want anything from you aside from a bit of a chat and a laugh. I will always do my best to help anyone through the early game, all you have to do is drop me an EvE-Mail or a Conversation if i'm online.

Secondly if any new players wanna come on a lowsec roam i'll buy your ships and fittings and ammo and will pay for your new clone :) Just come on down and give it a go.

Fly safe o/
Kain De'Stroi
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
#5 - 2012-03-05 13:57:19 UTC  |  Edited by: Kain De'Stroi
I am also very newbie friendly, but a little like the witch in Hansel and Gretel.
Once your fat and juicy and no longer a newbie i will try to eat you.
Feel free to drop me an evemail if you are skinny and wish to be fed.
Liam Mirren
#6 - 2012-03-05 14:12:35 UTC
Not to **** on the OP's parade but looking as his loss fits I'm not entirely sure he'd be a good mentor.

Excellence is not a skill, it's an attitude.

Reaver Glitterstim
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#7 - 2012-03-05 16:31:35 UTC
Keno Skir wrote:
Secondly if any new players wanna come on a lowsec roam i'll buy your ships and fittings and ammo and will pay for your new clone :) Just come on down and give it a go.


I might just take you up on that.

I make no pretenses on my pvp prowess. I know the basics plenty well enough to teach any newbies, but I myself have been longing for some good training.

FT Diomedes: "Reaver, sometimes I wonder what you are thinking when you sit down to post."

Frostys Virpio: "We have to give it to him that he does put more effort than the vast majority in his idea but damn does it sometime come out of nowhere."

Reaver Glitterstim
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#8 - 2012-03-05 23:30:20 UTC
Liam Mirren wrote:
Not to **** on the OP's parade but looking as his loss fits I'm not entirely sure he'd be a good mentor.


It's not nice or necessary to base your opinions of a pilot on their killboard, especially not to the extent of taking it all out of context. I have a few bad fittings in my past, but everything more recent had a specific purpose or reason for being fit that way. I am actually one of the best ship fitters I know. I'm not bragging, it's just one of my selling points.

FT Diomedes: "Reaver, sometimes I wonder what you are thinking when you sit down to post."

Frostys Virpio: "We have to give it to him that he does put more effort than the vast majority in his idea but damn does it sometime come out of nowhere."

Cannibal Kane
Viziam
Amarr Empire
#9 - 2012-03-08 14:05:11 UTC  |  Edited by: Cannibal Kane
Reaver Glitterstim wrote:
Liam Mirren wrote:
Not to **** on the OP's parade but looking as his loss fits I'm not entirely sure he'd be a good mentor.


It's not nice or necessary to base your opinions of a pilot on their killboard, especially not to the extent of taking it all out of context. I have a few bad fittings in my past, but everything more recent had a specific purpose or reason for being fit that way. I am actually one of the best ship fitters I know. I'm not bragging, it's just one of my selling points.


He has a valid Point

As long as your not teaching them PVP it is good to take some new guys under your wing. Most people feel lost when they first start unsure what they want to do.

And the reason those are fitted they way they are is because it's bad. You may be the best Ship fitter you know but that does not say much when they only serve as loss mails. Don't teach new players how to fit ships, you don't know how. I would rather point them towards RvB.

If I had the patience to help new players I would, especially when it came to PVP.

"Kane is the End Boss of Highsec." -Psychotic Monk

TheBlueMonkey
Center for Advanced Studies
Gallente Federation
#10 - 2012-03-08 14:56:41 UTC
you can mentor me if you like :)
Petrus Blackshell
Rifterlings
#11 - 2012-03-08 22:19:30 UTC
Reaver Glitterstim wrote:
It's not nice or necessary to base your opinions of a pilot on their killboard, especially not to the extent
of taking it all out of context.


Looking up kills and losses can give context to someone's claims to competence. In this case, they belie your claims of competence.

Reaver Glitterstim wrote:
I am actually one of the best ship fitters I know.


Let's see, almost no ships ever have a damage control unit (particularly horrid crime on Gallente ships). I see a warp core stabilizer on a combat-fit Rifter, an energy transfer on a Hurricane, a Brutix without all its high slots full of guns, more than three mods of one kind on one ship (no knowledge of "stacking penalty"), an invuln-tanked Punisher (wtf?!) and no real kills outside of big blobs. I also see no real kills in the last 4 months (sui-ganking Hulks doesn't count as PvP), and no real evidence of competence outside of a blob.

Don't try to play to the whole "my fits had a specific purpose" shtick. Even tackle frigates need more than 1k EHP, and not fitting a damage control unit to an Incursus is a crime.

OP, you are badly in need of tutoring yourself, and perhaps a shot of knowing the length of your own nose.

Accidentally The Whole Frigate - For-newbies blog (currently on pause)

J'Poll
School of Applied Knowledge
Caldari State
#12 - 2012-03-08 23:22:23 UTC
Petrus Blackshell wrote:
Reaver Glitterstim wrote:
It's not nice or necessary to base your opinions of a pilot on their killboard, especially not to the extent
of taking it all out of context.


Looking up kills and losses can give context to someone's claims to competence. In this case, they belie your claims of competence.

Reaver Glitterstim wrote:
I am actually one of the best ship fitters I know.


Let's see, almost no ships ever have a damage control unit (particularly horrid crime on Gallente ships). I see a warp core stabilizer on a combat-fit Rifter, an energy transfer on a Hurricane, a Brutix without all its high slots full of guns, more than three mods of one kind on one ship (no knowledge of "stacking penalty"), an invuln-tanked Punisher (wtf?!) and no real kills outside of big blobs. I also see no real kills in the last 4 months (sui-ganking Hulks doesn't count as PvP), and no real evidence of competence outside of a blob.

Don't try to play to the whole "my fits had a specific purpose" shtick. Even tackle frigates need more than 1k EHP, and not fitting a damage control unit to an Incursus is a crime.

OP, you are badly in need of tutoring yourself, and perhaps a shot of knowing the length of your own nose.


This, but not +1 but +10

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Roland Renoir
Pator Tech School
Minmatar Republic
#13 - 2012-03-09 01:26:27 UTC
Well, not sure about OP as I only chatted with him for about 10 minutes... But Keno is a cool guy and helps me from time to time when I ask him for tips.

ps: reading Petrus' post made me feel like I'm 5 years away from PvPing. :(

"Give a man fish and you'll feed him for a day. Teach him how to fish and you'll feed him for his life."

Petrus Blackshell
Rifterlings
#14 - 2012-03-09 02:20:00 UTC  |  Edited by: Petrus Blackshell
Roland Renoir wrote:
Well, not sure about OP as I only chatted with him for about 10 minutes... But Keno is a cool guy and helps me from time to time when I ask him for tips.

ps: reading Petrus' post made me feel like I'm 5 years away from PvPing. :(


You really aren't. I started living in 0.0 and PvPing just as my 21 day trial ended (and I was with the militia before that). I'm not saying that I was very good at it, but over time I got better. I still don't consider myself "good", but I try to know what I'm talking about. I still lose tons of ships, big and small, often to really really stupid mistakes -- but it's fun!

The only way to learn to PvP well is to get out there and do it, preferably alongside other more veteran players who can give you tips, fitting advice, and flying advice. More importantly, after every fight (win or loss), reflect back on it and try to identify what went well and what went badly. Stuff like "damn, I only have about 10-15 seconds to live if I attack an assault frigate in a T1 frigate; I should avoid that".

There are plenty of tutors around Eve, and newbie-friendly corps that have vets who enjoy helping newbies thrive. My corp is one example. Red vs Blue, Eve University, TEST Alliance, and Goonswarm are other (bigger and more well known) examples. These corps usually have very cheap or even free (in my corp's case) T1 frigates and fittings so you can explode as many times as you wish, gaining experience as you go.

OP might have been an actual tutor too, from what I could tell from the first post, but the phrase "I am one of the best ship fitters I know" rubbed me the wrong way so I had to call him out on it. One is not simply a "good ship fitter". That's not how anything works. He needs a tutor himself, and shouldn't be tutoring.

Edit: Also, I have only been playing for a bit over two years. If it takes 5 years to get into PvP... I better have a good explanation for my killboard.

Accidentally The Whole Frigate - For-newbies blog (currently on pause)

Valk Enaka
Wohlstandsgesellschaft
#15 - 2012-03-09 03:07:56 UTC
Petrus Blackshell wrote:
Roland Renoir wrote:

ps: reading Petrus' post made me feel like I'm 5 years away from PvPing. :(

Edit: Also, I have only been playing for a bit over two years. If it takes 5 years to get into PvP... I better have a good explanation for my killboard.

^this. I haven't been doing pvp for super long by any stretch. I started running missions, but have since moved towards my goal of doing pvp and love every second of it. The key in my opinion to enjoying EVE is finding a good corp you enjoy, and have constant opportunities to do something. As Cannibal Kane mentioned Red vs Blue is an excellent place to get started learning pvp. I don't know what Rifterlings requirements are, but everything I have heard about them is positive. So I would encourage you to get in somewhere and just do what you want to do. And honestly, regardless of how good Reaver's fits are or aren't, even losing ships can be fun. You have to just make sure you are having fun, this is the biggest thing I have noticed in EVE.

I've only been around for about 7-8 months, and have no problems working in fleet pvp ops. While there is certainly a difference between the skill level required for larger fleets and small gangs/solo, time does not greatly affect your ability to pvp. I would love to be able to help others with what I have learned, but current situations complicate that.... That said, if any new players are interested in chatting about pvp or whatever, you can feel free to shoot me a mail ingame. There are certainly people out there that know far more than I do, but I always enjoy passing along any advice I can to new players.

(slightly off-topic, maybe. rambling, perhaps. hopefully understandable)
Roland Renoir
Pator Tech School
Minmatar Republic
#16 - 2012-03-09 03:18:10 UTC  |  Edited by: Roland Renoir
Petrus Blackshell wrote:
Edit: Also, I have only been playing for a bit over two years. If it takes 5 years to get into PvP... I better have a good explanation for my killboard.


I just said that cause the way I felt noobish reading your post, that's all. :P

(tried to explain this to you in in-game convo, but oh well)

Good to see so many people willing to help the newbies. Seems like EVE isn't so full of bitter vets after all. ;)

"Give a man fish and you'll feed him for a day. Teach him how to fish and you'll feed him for his life."

Cannibal Kane
Viziam
Amarr Empire
#17 - 2012-03-09 05:40:55 UTC  |  Edited by: Cannibal Kane
heh...

I consider the bitter vets to be the +4 years guys. Been playing now for almost a year and a half. I started shooting at other peoples ships since day 3, right now aiming for 2000 kills before my char turn 2 years.

"Kane is the End Boss of Highsec." -Psychotic Monk

Reaver Glitterstim
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#18 - 2012-03-09 06:42:05 UTC  |  Edited by: Reaver Glitterstim
Petrus Blackshell wrote:
Let's see, almost no ships ever have a damage control unit (particularly horrid crime on Gallente ships). I see a warp core stabilizer on a combat-fit Rifter, an energy transfer on a Hurricane, a Brutix without all its high slots full of guns, more than three mods of one kind on one ship (no knowledge of "stacking penalty"), an invuln-tanked Punisher (wtf?!) and no real kills outside of big blobs. I also see no real kills in the last 4 months (sui-ganking Hulks doesn't count as PvP), and no real evidence of competence outside of a blob.

Don't try to play to the whole "my fits had a specific purpose" shtick. Even tackle frigates need more than 1k EHP, and not fitting a damage control unit to an Incursus is a crime.

OP, you are badly in need of tutoring yourself, and perhaps a shot of knowing the length of your own nose.


I can't fit guns on a shuttle? Just because I put autocannons on a rifter doesn't mean I intended to put it into combat. Sometimes being ready for the unexpected, or even the semi-expected, is a very big deal. There are no "correct" fits for any hull, something you apparently aren't aware of.

The energy transfer was on the hurricane because I wanted to hear the noise it made while I sat outside the station. The loss was due to a docking bug. I submitted a ship replacement petition on it, but as usual "the logs show nothing".

The Brutix wasn't completely fit because there wasn't enough stuff on the market at the time and it didn't survive till finishing. That happens from time to time, you know.

The Punisher was obviously a cargo ship, or did you not look at its contents? It was designed to be a blockade runner. Unfortunately, as is the nature of nullsec, it just happened to run into a massive blockade of which it stood no chance against.

I don't know what you're talking about as far as using more than 3 modules with stacking penalty, but you're probably picking at a gank ship or something else where there's clearly no purpose for anything but more offense upgrade.

Like I said, I make no pretenses about my pvp prowess. I avoid solo pvp because I have no interest in it. So yes, my kills are all ganks, mistakes, and group kills. I have no shame of this, but you still have nothing on my fitting skills. I'm not even going to talk about the incursus, since you clearly don't know much about the hull.

From the other things you've said here, I can see you know a thing or two about flying in ships. You don't need to resort to personal attacks just because you dislike what someone said. If I claim I'm good at fitting ships, you can't really use my killboard against that anyway. That only shows the ships I've lost, which for a passive flyer will almost invariably be either poorly fit or poorly flown, for one reason or another. My long, long list of ships I haven't lost would be a better testament to my fitting prowess, or when I glance at tried and tested fittings and make a quick improvement to them. I don't say this lightly, I'm damn good at fitting ships. If you don't believe me, I can show you.

FT Diomedes: "Reaver, sometimes I wonder what you are thinking when you sit down to post."

Frostys Virpio: "We have to give it to him that he does put more effort than the vast majority in his idea but damn does it sometime come out of nowhere."

Cannibal Kane
Viziam
Amarr Empire
#19 - 2012-03-09 07:20:49 UTC  |  Edited by: Cannibal Kane
Reaver Glitterstim wrote:


My long, long list of ships I haven't lost would be a better testament to my fitting prowess, or when I glance at tried and tested fittings and make a quick improvement to them. I don't say this lightly, I'm damn good at fitting ships. If you don't believe me, I can show you.



I don't believe your good at fitting ships either. Saying you are shows that you have confidence in fits that go down burning, but the evidence tied to your losses says your not. It is that comment in conjunction with your losses that have peaked peoples interest thinking.. "WTF is this guys smoking?".

Why can I say that? Because I know how to fits ships.

http://kane.killmail.org/?a=pilot_detail&plt_id=757025

I do get alot of questions ingame asking for advice on fits from people needing help, so I will help in that regards.

"Kane is the End Boss of Highsec." -Psychotic Monk

Reaver Glitterstim
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#20 - 2012-03-09 08:54:57 UTC
Cannibal Kane wrote:
Why can I say that? Because I know how to fits ships.

http://kane.killmail.org/?a=pilot_detail&plt_id=757025


As I took a look through your losses, the first thing I noticed was that you consistently half-ass your buffer fits. Every once in a while you have a decent buffer fit, but more often than not I see 2+ EANMs with multiple armor plates and 3 trimarks. You've got a lot of ships with empty slots, though in any of these cases I can easily extrapolate the possible reasons for this. You once fit a crucifier as a tackler though, I've no idea what possessed you to think that was a good idea. You have a few active repair-tanked bestowers which seems like a rather ineffective way to engage in any sort of pvp unless you're baiting a target. I'm interested in hearing what you were doing with those, and also with the faction fit Navy Megathron you lost. Seems a bit expensive to be taking into pvp, of course you could have just made a mistake like bring it out during a war you didn't realize was going on, or something like that. You've got amarr ships fit with autocannons. I'll admit, the powergrid requirements for lasers are high, but usually it's better to fly minmatar ships if you want to use autocannons. You clearly were able to, as you have hurricane losses right alongside the prophecy and harbinger that were loaded with autocannons. The last thing that caught my eye was a bestower with 3 shield extenders but no shield hardeners. That's pretty much asking to be destroyed, if you ask me.

So you see, I can pick out the worst from your killboard too. It doesn't mean you're bad at fittings. The only reason you have more decent fits mixed in with them than I do is because you're always going into pvp combat, whereas I'm always avoiding it. So unless you actually believe an aggressive mentality is a prerequisite for understanding the mechanics of module fitting, you really have nothing to say about my fitting skills based on my killboard. Killboards are rarely an accurate representation of the way a person fits, unless they take their favorite fits into combat so often they end up losing them all the time.

Still, you should learn to fit your buffer tank more efficiently. You could gain a lot of EHP from that.

FT Diomedes: "Reaver, sometimes I wonder what you are thinking when you sit down to post."

Frostys Virpio: "We have to give it to him that he does put more effort than the vast majority in his idea but damn does it sometime come out of nowhere."

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