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Muestereate
Minions LLC
#1 - 2012-03-01 16:27:06 UTC
I ran across this quote and thought it has great application here and other places but I'm having trouble applying it so I thought I'd share it and ask here for the good of the game and whatnot.

Quote:
If you want to build a ship, don't drum up people together to collect wood and don't assign them tasks and work, but rather teach them to long for the endless immensity of the sea.
Antoine de Saint-Exupery
KrakizBad
Section 8.
#2 - 2012-03-01 16:31:36 UTC
Don't convince your friends to join EVE by showing them the sexy industry interface.
arcca jeth
Dark Alliance
#3 - 2012-03-01 16:33:37 UTC
*yawn* Roll
Nirnias Stirrum
UberWTFBBQ and Battle Technologies
#4 - 2012-03-01 16:34:42 UTC
Catch a man a fish and he will eat for a day, teach a man to fish and he will eat for the rest of his life.....
Gogela
Epic Ganking Time
CODE.
#5 - 2012-03-01 16:38:57 UTC
Nirnias Stirrum wrote:
Catch a man a fish and he will eat for a day, teach a man to fish and he will eat for the rest of his life.....

...beat a man with a fish and your friends will laugh all day. Set up market scams and steal every one else's fish and then you will have a lot of fish to give to people that look like the type to beat other people with fish and you will laugh for a life time.

Signatures should be used responsibly...
Abdiel Kavash
Deep Core Mining Inc.
Caldari State
#6 - 2012-03-01 16:40:59 UTC
Nirnias Stirrum wrote:
Catch a man a fish and he will eat for a day, teach a man to fish and he will eat for the rest of his life.....

Give a man a fire, and he will be warm for the night. Set a man on fire, and he will be warm for the rest of his life.
Muestereate
Minions LLC
#7 - 2012-03-01 16:42:18 UTC
I guess I haven't exactly convinced anyone to undock
rodyas
Tie Fighters Inc
#8 - 2012-03-01 18:30:59 UTC
Ships aren't as big as the sea. Should teach them to be immense as a large hole or puddle.

Signature removed for inappropriate language - CCP Eterne
Ptraci
3 R Corporation
#9 - 2012-03-01 18:50:27 UTC  |  Edited by: Ptraci
Spoken like a poet and not a ship builder.

Also, if man was meant to fly, he wouldn't have crashed his plane in the desert. Twice.

Edit: Also I will not take lessons on naval construction from a Frenchman. Most of their fleet is on the bottom of the sea, right next to the Spanish navy.
MadMuppet
Critical Mass Inc
#10 - 2012-03-01 18:51:49 UTC
Nirnias Stirrum wrote:
Catch a man a fish and he will eat for a day, teach a man to fish and he will eat for the rest of his life.....


Make a man a fire and he'll be warm for a day, set a man on fire and he'll be warm for the rest of his life. (has a more 'Eve' tone to it)

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"If you are part of the problem, you will be nerfed." -MadMuppet
Bischopt
Sebiestor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#11 - 2012-03-01 19:10:14 UTC
The idea behind that quote is fairly simple: instead of paying people to work for you, manipulate them and make them think they want to do it, even when they really dont. They'll do it more efficiently and for less money. perfect!

Example: you want someone dead but dont have the money to hire an assassin. Make your neighbour think the guy is banging his wife. problem solved.
Delici Feelgood
Doomheim
#12 - 2012-03-01 19:14:52 UTC
Muestereate wrote:
I ran across this quote and thought it has great application here and other places but I'm having trouble applying it so I thought I'd share it and ask here for the good of the game and whatnot.

Quote:
If you want to build a ship, don't drum up people together to collect wood and don't assign them tasks and work, but rather teach them to long for the endless immensity of the sea.
Antoine de Saint-Exupery


I 'think' it means: Give a man a purpose rather than simply telling him what to do.

Considering the rather prescriptive nature of certain elitist views in EvE I'd say its very relevant. Blink

However when it comes down to some of the random play in EvE I think it is a nice statement to apply to people so they can at least begin to question what their real role in EvE is and wether they have any "real" purpose.

Fortunatley with a "sandbox" its open ended hopefully in defining that for yourself.
Scien Inkunen
Deep Core Mining Inc.
Caldari State
#13 - 2012-03-01 19:29:08 UTC
Muestereate wrote:
I ran across this quote and thought it has great application here and other places but I'm having trouble applying it so I thought I'd share it and ask here for the good of the game and whatnot.

Quote:
If you want to build a ship, don't drum up people together to collect wood and don't assign them tasks and work, but rather teach them to long for the endless immensity of the sea.
Antoine de Saint-Exupery


- If they comprehend the beauty of the sea, each of them will build a ship for him self, and will shear their knowledge with others.
- In other words: more good references for the game, more players will join.

Read the "Fart file" and you will understand the meaning of life !
Opertone
State War Academy
Caldari State
#14 - 2012-03-01 21:16:44 UTC
Teachings of the not so smart ones.

Don't eat, do not chew on meat, do not hunt, do no grow crops.

Rather fulfill your body with nutrient energy. Seek saturation. Hope for satiety.

Stupids, as in middleages talky smalt things. Talky Talky

This post sums up why the 'best' work with DCM inc.

WARP DRIVE makes eve boring

really - add warping align time 300% on gun aggression and eve becomes great again
Opertone
State War Academy
Caldari State
#15 - 2012-03-01 21:20:33 UTC
Scien Inkunen wrote:


- If they comprehend the beauty of the sea, each of them will build a ship for him self, and will shear their knowledge with others.
- In other words: more good references for the game, more players will join.


Happens not! Bulding a ship is a costly enterprise. No ship, no sea experience! No seamanship.

Can't overskip to the result, without taking the pass!

Utopia, Communism, both aim to something good, without taking any positive steps. Bull droppings is the result of illusive dreaming. You step in it.

This post sums up why the 'best' work with DCM inc.

WARP DRIVE makes eve boring

really - add warping align time 300% on gun aggression and eve becomes great again
Scien Inkunen
Deep Core Mining Inc.
Caldari State
#16 - 2012-03-01 21:56:35 UTC
Opertone wrote:
Scien Inkunen wrote:


- If they comprehend the beauty of the sea, each of them will build a ship for him self, and will shear their knowledge with others.
- In other words: more good references for the game, more players will join.


Happens not! Bulding a ship is a costly enterprise. No ship, no sea experience! No seamanship.

Can't overskip to the result, without taking the pass!

Utopia, Communism, both aim to something good, without taking any positive steps. Bull droppings is the result of illusive dreaming. You step in it.



You have same problem, do you?

Read the "Fart file" and you will understand the meaning of life !
Scien Inkunen
Deep Core Mining Inc.
Caldari State
#17 - 2012-03-01 21:59:33 UTC
Opertone wrote:
Scien Inkunen wrote:


- If they comprehend the beauty of the sea, each of them will build a ship for him self, and will shear their knowledge with others.
- In other words: more good references for the game, more players will join.


Happens not! Bulding a ship is a costly enterprise. No ship, no sea experience! No seamanship.

Can't overskip to the result, without taking the pass!

Utopia, Communism, both aim to something good, without taking any positive steps. Bull droppings is the result of illusive dreaming. You step in it.



If you pull off your nose from your a** maybe you notice there is a world out there.

Read the "Fart file" and you will understand the meaning of life !
Serene Repose
#18 - 2012-03-01 23:17:25 UTC  |  Edited by: Serene Repose
Time sinks work best when users are convinced they're reaching a higher purpose.

We must accommodate the idiocracy.
Sturmwolke
#19 - 2012-03-01 23:25:14 UTC
Muestereate wrote:

Quote:
If you want to build a ship, don't drum up people together to collect wood and don't assign them tasks and work, but rather teach them to long for the endless immensity of the sea.
Antoine de Saint-Exupery


Basically means to dream and follow your dream.
If you don't falter, you'll get there someday, whichever way.
Sasha Azala
Doomheim
#20 - 2012-03-01 23:35:35 UTC
Muestereate wrote:
I ran across this quote and thought it has great application here and other places but I'm having trouble applying it so I thought I'd share it and ask here for the good of the game and whatnot.

Quote:
If you want to build a ship, don't drum up people together to collect wood and don't assign them tasks and work, but rather teach them to long for the endless immensity of the sea.
Antoine de Saint-Exupery



I think what that quote is saying don't just give people tasks that require no real thinking or ownership of the task but instead install enthusiasm into the trainee/worker so they will take more pride in their work.

But building a ship requires team organisation so enthusiasm without the organisation just would not work.

Personally, I just think it's a crap quote.

But of course it could just mean don't teach parrot fashion but teach in a way that makes it interesting to the trainee.
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