Player Features and Ideas Discussion

Why? What role would this proposed ship fill? Why is it needed in the game?

"It sounds cool" or "But I want it" aren't reasons for adding ships to the game.

Also, there have been about half a dozen "moar destroyers" threads already in the last couple weeks; none of which provide sufficient reason for them to be added due to a deficit of roles for them to fill.

Destroyers have been ignored? Then what ships received a buff with the launch of Crucible? It can't be the Destroyers. They're ignored, as you incorrectly claim. They were actually made about 33% deadlier, after they had their -25% Rate of Fire penalty removed, but if that's the new definition of "ignored", I haven't been keeping up with the latest edition of the "English to Stupid vocabulary".

Learn to search the forums and figure out that when 5 other threads calling for new destroyers have been critisized, one more probably also will.

TL;DR: Repeated thread. Topic still not supported.

How about: "Because it makes no sense in the fiction that each race would only produce one of a class of ship"
Really. During WWII, there were eight classes of destroyer hulls, in the US inventory alone. The destroyer concept was discontinued afterwards, but the fact remains. Variety is nice for both fiction and entertainment's sake. And this is a game. two ships that fill the same role are not that big of a deal, provided they perform similarly. (as opposed to the tier system chasm we see between battlecruisers)

Super interdictor.

No ships in the system can warp, jump, dock or use gates.

On ship death, if the pilot does not self-destruct or eject, CCP automatically orders a pizza, pays for it, and delivers it to whoever dealt the killing blow.

Odd, considering it's an entire ship class.

I could think of a bunch of ideas (tech 1 or 2):

EWAR boats (lots of midslots, few lows and highs)
Stealth Snipers (covops cloak + lots of guns)
Living Bombs (lots of high slots, smartbombs only)
Light Carriers (10 light drones) -not an original idea
Pursuit (Fast destroyers)
Heavy Scout (Astrometrics bonus, can detect stealth).
Light Command Ships (cheap but fragile)
Heavy Interceptor (larger sig than a frigate, slower, but much longer-range point)
Heavy Assault Ship (Same role as tech 1 destroyer, but more effective, as tech 2/pirate frigates outclass tech 1 destroyers)

etc.

personally I think we could use some new destroyers.
heres some ideas ill throw around....

Ammar- Laser boat that favors range over raw dammage.

Gallente- Sacrifices Turret slots for a respectible dronebay.

Minmatar- speedy split weapon prototype.

Caldari- favors missiles and shield resistance.

now at least one or two of these new destroyers should be vertical, because all current dessy models look very flat and horrizontal. please feel free to add anything else.

Ok, a quick counter to the inevitable and seen here again talking points about why should a new ship exist without being needed.

The game does not need ANY new ships EVER. That is not the reason a new ship was ever placed in the game by CCP. The closest the game gets to pointing out that a new ship might be wanted, is when a role you would expect it to fill, is being filled by what amounts to an unexpected ship or class of ships.

A couple of details to consider...
...for just the subclass of Assault Frigate, under each race you will find two versions.
...for just the subclass of Heavy Assault Cruiser, under each race you will find two versions.
There are ONLY two destroyers for each race, and that is combining all T1 and T2 versions together, not just one of the four T2 subclasses like frigate, or one of the five T2 subclasses like cruiser.

The ship that actually gets modules and bonuses to frigates, (the destroyer seems to be treated like a frigate subclass overall), is the cruiser.
The cruiser class is the current required platform for Assault Launchers.
When the topic came up about which ship actually got bonuses that made it an ideal frigate fighting ship, I was pointed to the Stabber Fleet Issue.

Another pointed out that BCs were great at wiping out entire fleets of frigates.

Maybe it's just me, but one sided fights are not what should be encouraged. Cruisers like the ones described should not be what we accept as the best answer to frigates for the best pew.

And try to keep in mind, the Assault Destroyer I had suggested, (in another thread), is just as likely to be used WITH frigates as AGAINST frigates. The same way frigates already fight each other.
What makes it most interesting, is that when working with frigates, it just might give them enough tanking and firepower to fight back against the cruisers with a chance to do something besides be astro-roadkill.

Considering the very term "destroyer" is a us naval term, as well as the concept, which is very similar in role to the Eve destroyer, why should I not?

As for why? Because it's fun.it's a game. It's fictionally supportable.
Granted, no ships need added before balancing the current mess, but seeing some new stuff on occasion would be nice, and destroyers are the most lacking.

Corrections are in order. Destroyers are still in use, and the modern iteration was British by design.

Torpedo boats are generally frigate class vessels.the torpedo boat destroyers were designed to kill frigates. Of course now they do just about everything, and most larger craft are in dry dock, but that's not the point.