Warfare & Tactics

Indeed.

He's sooo dreamy.

Mate, we're describing how :LIFE: works. If you're hiring for a position, you don't hire someone because they say "Hey, you don't know me, you know nothing about me, but give me this senior position anyway".

If you are so close-minded that you feel immediately entitled to everything that you might want on a whim (and you throw a tantrum when you don't get it spoon-fed to you), that is too bad.

People have worked hard to create a FW community/brother-hood and we aren't going to let some narcissistic moron into secure op channels just because he says "let me into your secure op channels". We'd be moronic if we did that.

Getting into fleets out in nullsec might be easy as cake because you're 1 man out of 100+ and the ability for you to rain on the parade is diminished as opposed to being 1 man out of 10, and you might be inclined to do that from sheer ineptitude or for malicious reasons: either way, it is much more important to protect the integrity and security of a fleet when it is small than when it is large because 1 man can do a lot of damage.

Have fun running your own corp, I'm sure you'll find some other self-entitled morons that like your panache (read: idiocy) and you can go about doing whatever you want.

tl;dr - we've given you explanations, we've given you justifications. if you refuse to even recognize those (you don't have to agree!), repeating ourselves isn't going to help your mental condition.

Why are you so angry? The system isn't foolproof. It just seems like you're hellbent on wanting the system to change but you know and I know that it won't. Btw- I wasn't saying that networking, as a social filter, should get you an in and be considered a foolproof method to weed out spies. It isn't because of the reasons you stated in regards to manipulation and puppetry.

I was referencing Andrea's "socializing" her activity that got her noticed. He says hi in local. He communicates enemy movement in chat. He got in. What's so hard about doing that? It takes barely a minute to do this a few times a week. You've certainly spent more time on these threads and it still hasn't gotten you anywhere :)

I don't expect to change your mind and that's fine. If anything, I'm just amused by all of this.

I still think you (or anyone reading this) should at least consider that being sociable and leveraging your social skills should and does get you ahead in this game as it does in life. Don't easily dismiss this facet of the game. Let me conclude it with this;

Consider Mittani as a perfect example. For all his narcissism and metagamming nonsense, he wields power because of his ability to be a social animal. That, above all else, is why he is currently relevant and holds power. He buys drinks for CCP employees at the Summits to make it look like he's working hard at cultivating relationships and being a 'uniter'. He schmoozes and sweet talks his own alliance mates and allies. He knows how to put a delicate spin on lemmings to force them to believe whatever he wants them to believe. His speeches are not only articulate (relative to some of the Alliance CEOs in nullsec) but he understands how to craft the language behind it to make him more appealing . Not bad for a guy who has admitted that he doesn't play alot and much prefers metagamming, from an article I recall a year ago. And his KB isn't anything outstanding. But yet here he is; he holds more power than other alliances who have more l33t PVPers or experienced vets.

There's a reason why Goons is one of the few nullsec alliances who recruit total noobs. They're totally new to the game. Incapable of thinking independently. Susceptible for whatever message you wish to preach. Sounds like a perfect scenario to influence folks with your own propaganda er message. Well, that and they make for great meat shields :)

Hell, look at his CSM introduction thread. He knows how to get people to relate to him. He subtly implies alot of things by using what is referred to as "social proof" . He likes cute dogs like Alaskan Huskies. Who doesn't like cute lovable animals? He thinks CCP Punkturus is 'alright'. What guy here doesn't like a cute girl? He is posting "social proofs" as a way to get us to relate to him and make it look like he's just 'one of the guys' and not some power mongering nullsec douche bag. And you know what? It works pretty darn well for him.

I'm not part of his alliance so I do not have an internal understanding about everything that goes on. However, the nature of what I do in real life gives me ALOT of confidence to state with a high degree of certainty that he already knows what I am articulating; That in a game of internet spacehips, we're still social animals and subject to being influenced. He doesn't deal with spaceships or moon goo. He deals, influences, and manipulates people.

Like this game (or FW), life isn't perfect. I accept that pretty girls will get ahead in the corporate world for their looks. I accept that aggressive fast talking salesfolks will get ahead despite the fact they may know nothing about the product at hand. I accept that a jerk who can sweet talk girls at the bar will get laid more than the 'nice guy' who does everything right . I don't look to change these things. I accept them as is.

That's life my friend; C'est la vie. Or was it C'est La Eve ?

You can be in faction war and not know anyone. You can have allot of fun doing that. I flew solo allot and still do occasionally. If you don't know what your doing in pvp you shouldn't expect people who aren't in your corp to take time to teach you. Sometimes they will, but its not your right to have other people explain how the game works to you.

The issue op seems to have is not about faction war. It seems to be you are upset about people not inviting you to fleet up. Thats something a bit different.

If you don't know how to pvp get in a corp that says they are willing to help newer players in exchange for their commitment to the corp. But if you aren't even willing to commit to their corp at all and just want people to teach you while you are in your own corp. Well thats not always going to work out like you hope.