Jita Park Speakers Corner

I owe a few others some answers but this is just too good to pass up.



Words like 'notorious' and 'infamous' in conjunction with a mercenary alliance = good stuff. Also, it'd be pretty hard to hide that MC was working for / with BoB while we were burning your regions down for them m8. Maybe your leaders should have actually tried talking to us at the time instead of attacking our shipyards. v0v



Actually, I knew about the T21 indicent before anyone else and still haven't said a word abou-... oh... ooops.



Cripes, what the hell does this even mean?

That we were smart enough to build cap ships early and use them in a united alliance fleet doctrine? Guilty. That MC really stood for Mining Coalition? Did the multiple screenshots of Wyverns using Harvester drones give that away?



Old player that ran a mercenary alliance and who likes to use cap ships and expensive toys ends up in a... mercenary alliance. This is a pretty amazing observation!!



Stop being so mad about what happened in Tenal five years ago, m8. Come to FanFest and I'll buy you a beer and we can hug it out.

I've had the pleasure of working with Seleene on improving the game throughout the years since CSM 2, when he was known as CCP Abathur.
As an example of his willingness to put effort into it, he once had a brainstorming session with us for 6 hours... by text... on a sunday.

Seleene is a veteran player and obviously knowledgeable about the game in general, and when it comes to medium to large scale PvP and 0.0 in particular.
Unlike many delegates over the years, he actually bothered to contribute, participate and make the voice of the people who voted for him (or didn't) heard. Shouldn't he already have it, he'd have earned my respect for that alone.

I hope I have the chance to work with him again.

Even thou I'm currently on opposite sides of Mark I was a member of MC and enjoyed and trusted him.I have never found him to be a person who was looking out for his own interests ,he was always trying to find ways to make the game more interesting and fun and he is not someone whos always trying to grab the limelight. I know from past experiences he will work hard for the community not just the areas he may benefit from directly. Hes got my vote

Honestly, I've been asking many of the same questions literally from the day outposts were released for construction. With regard to null-sec infrastructure, the lack of iteration and change with regard to outposts / stations or whatever has been conspicuously absent. While I do think that there should be some parts of industry that are most efficient in all four 'areas' - null, low and high sec, along with wormhole space, I fully support the ability for sovereign holders to build up their space to be as self-sufficient and efficient as possible. I think we are missing a lot of things that could be real ISK sinks and help improve null-sec industry and living conditions greatly. In terms of station specific things ~the dream~ I'd like to see stuff like:

• The ability of sov holders to shut down / disassemble outposts that are not used, obsolete or in the way.
• Allowing multiple outposts per system.
• Improved upgrades to existing outposts that allow their functionality to be competitive with their Empire counterparts.
• True (Empire-like) Space Stations - bigger, better, more expensive and time consuming to build.
• An even bigger tier (Citadels) that can be built in designated Sovereign capital systems.

Big stuff. Expensive stuff. Stuff that requires team-work and planning and rewards those efforts.

Let me step back in time a bit to frame my thoughts on this. In some respects, the financial aspects of this are something that aren't really appreciated today. When outposts were first released, 20-25 billion ISK was an IMMENSE sum of money. More importantly, you could not load the outpost construction eggs with a freighter - you had to use a small fleet of normal Industrial haulers. From finances to the physical effort of construction, it required a level of teamwork that's been missing for years. Once it became essentially a 'one man job' to actually deploy and finance an entire dock-able space station, they became as common as trees in a forest and we lost a vital part of what made null-sec feel like 'frontier space'.

If we are allowed the ability to truly consolidate and build up certain areas of space instead of the generic sprawl that exists now, it would be a vast improvement. I've never understood the reasoning behind why sovereign null-sec powers are not allowed to fully 'cut the cord' from Empire due to industrial inefficiencies. They should be able to develop their way to parity.

From this and one other of your comments, you seem to be very concerned with CCP's lot in life, rather than our (the paying customers) continued contribution to CCP's coffers - you're not CCP Zulu in disguise are you? So far we've seen one CSM delegate removed for being naughty with privileged information - the NDA they sign must be working since we haven't seen any more of this behaviour since.

Would you prefer to have an EVE without the CSM? Serious question, no troll.


I'm pretty sure the CSM would be a lesser entity without Seleene, so he gets my vote. Given the obvious (and not so obvious) agendas being pushed by certain other "alliance" candidates it's going to be very important to have at least one voice of reason and sanity being heard. And make no bones about it...Seleene does get heard.

+1 to Seleene for CSM 7.

To be honest I am concerned. I do think the CSM has been high-jacked by big fight politics and not enough emphasis has been put on more subtle economic warfare.

No, I'm not Zulu, I'm a self-taught self-employed graphic designer raised in Manchester England who spends far too much time playing games. I'm a bit worried that you compared me to CCP Zulu. Something about him made me feel slightly nervous. I know that is uncharitable to say bit it's true.

I do think Seleene has the games best interests at heart and has walked through fire to position himself where he is now. But he was (I believe) instrumental in directing CCP away from incarna. For that I'm afraid I have to place my vote elsewhere.

You snuck a post in on me so I'll hit these points as well.



I don't consider myself one of the hijackers as, if you scan through this thread, my blog or other threads I've participated in, you'll see that I'm just as likely to write a wall of text about industry and economics as I am about giant planet destroying war machines.



No, m8, my problem with anything Incarna-related is that CCP needs a proper plan for it, good design that allows for actual game play elements and, IF it is going to contain micro-transactions, a sensible pricing model and wide variety of customization. These issues need to be resolved while, in the meantime, CCP devotes the next couple development cycles to fixing the everyday game play elements that have been broken or lacking iteration for years.

I didn't steer CCP away from having full body avatars or any of the stuff associated with it - I took a stand that after five years of development Incarna was a poorly released expansion with exactly zero game play and crippling graphics performance issues. If you read my latest blog entry, there is a part where I answer a question about the New Player Experience that show just one of the reasons why I wish it WOULD work. I would love to see the in game avatar concept properly realized and brought into the game and I would support a well thought out effort by CCP to do it properly, which I think most people would agree the Incarna release was not.

In that case how would you feel about completely dropping the corporation management interface from the neocom and completely re-mastering it as a drag and drop interface only accessible in avatar in station. I mean, what sane corp leader does that hellish stuff in space anyway?

I’d love to see a user friendly corporation management interface that allowed me to group certificates to roles, roles to ship loadouts, corp loadouts to squads, squads to wings, wings to (wing) formations, wing formations to fleets and fleets to allied battled groups all with a one flick toggle as who has access to each named set.

incarna is ideally suited for the creation of strategists planning tool, with theoretical dps counts and mining yield calculators that can be shared real time with other directors in the planning room at HQ.

Even in HighSec that would make HQ an important location to defend not just another random throw away office.

Can you with your stated positon justify the resources required to pull that off for the limited number of people who would immediately enjoy the benefits? Obviously everyone would benefit from being managed more effectively but it would be an intangible improvement to most people.

They’re going to have to do something like that to manage the planet side dust-busters anyway aren't they?

Or would it have to wait after your proposed industrialist expansion?

Let me make this clear;
I am not upset about what happen on the North at that time because it help in the end Razor to create the NC afterwards.
What i dont like is the behavior of you inside game.
For example you backstabed the GBC.
You had inside knowledge of the game because you were working for CCP and that gives you an unfair advantage over the rest of the players. And also i admit something else.
Since your election on CSM 6 you have sided with us the rest of the players on improving the failure that was the Incarna expancion and that was great for me. What i see here now again though, is that you run again for the CSM which makes me, personal to think again about your motives.
You are not special Seleene.
There are many good players out there that are very smart and can help the players of Eve to help the game become beter.

Get over it friend. I was on the receiving end of the "backstab" at the time. It was a legitimate and sensible game move for the MC to make. I'm in his corp now.



Erm, No. You are confused in your timelines here. When anyone joins CCP as an employee, their player accounts are locked and they have to make new ones. You can't be Seleene and CCP Abathur at the same time. Its against your employment contract.

Your statement here is pure tinfoil.