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EVE Online ITERATIONS: Re-elect Seleene to CSM 7

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1Of9
A Blessed Bean
Pandemic Horde
#161 - 2012-02-17 09:00:17 UTC
Hamrammur wrote:
Seleene wrote:
Hamrammur wrote:

Yes Prad, I am still in AAA and did not fck over my voters...

And there was nothing personal in what I said, I made it clear to include the word INGAME in every accusation I made against Sel.
The RL person is a chill dude i´d share a beer with anytime.


Thanks, man (me too), so let's talk about RL then because you've nailed the main issue. I feel very comfortable in saying that I didn't do one thing different on the CSM regardless of who voted for me. I ran very openly as someone that does not have any intention of bias toward one alliance or style of gameplay. Sure, I have my personal priorities but those are all public record, moreso than many other CSMs. This nonsense that I somehow violated your trust implies that I actively worked against some secret agenda that I would never agree to in the first place.

You cannot offer anything that says I favored PL or any other alliance in my tenure on CSM 6. You have NOTHING but bitching about how I amd Manny and whoever else decided to do what we felt best for us and our bros. The reason you can't is because the CSM is an OUT OF GAME ORGANIZATION. When we sit down in Iceland or talk on Skype, I talk with real people about real issues in the game. I talk with people like Alex, Robert, Mikhal, Josh, Sean and Stephan. In fact, it's pretty funny how rare, if ever, anyone gets ~mad~ about in game politics. If someone comes in amd starts this tinfoil bullshit they are rapidly outcast.

If you are mad about some in game political thing, all right. But stop trying to connect it to the Real Life work that the CSM does on the video game we all play. Smile



No Sel and you quoted the wrong part of my post .. the real question being asked is your trustworthiness based on your ingame actions after all you campaign with your ingame alias and your ingame avatar, feel free to move this campaign to Facebook if you want to mix your RL persona in this.
Take Mittens for example; he is quite possibly somekind of record holder in Eve for lying,swindling and being a complete bastard, but he is still a goon and never changed his colors.
You did Sel when it suited you and more than once and that is why I question you as a CSM candidate.


He already answered your question Hamrammur, you just didn't read it yet.

His work on CSM was to work towards a better EVE for every player, he was not in the CSM as the representative of power block X or Y, and that is what makes him the best candidate of all them.

Seleene genuinely works tirelessly to bring CCP to improve EVE, fix things and in general, make EVE a better game for all of us not just a certain group
Raivi
Perkone
Caldari State
#162 - 2012-02-17 16:38:13 UTC  |  Edited by: Raivi
Hamrammur wrote:


No Sel and you quoted the wrong part of my post .. the real question being asked is your trustworthiness based on your ingame actions after all you campaign with your ingame alias and your ingame avatar, feel free to move this campaign to Facebook if you want to mix your RL persona in this.
Take Mittens for example; he is quite possibly somekind of record holder in Eve for lying,swindling and being a complete bastard, but he is still a goon and never changed his colors.
You did Sel when it suited you and more than once and that is why I question you as a CSM candidate.


I knew you took your rivalry with PL personally, but this is a bit silly.

Seleene and his corp decided to play a video game with some different people than who they were previously playing the video game with. Full stop.
PL has had former members join AAA or other organizations we shoot and we still like and respect many of them both ingame and out.
Sevani
Viziam
Amarr Empire
#163 - 2012-02-17 22:17:34 UTC
I was really impressed with your one corp-mate's suggestion about space harpoons. When will we see battleship classed ships than can shoot space harpoons into capital ships.

Although your additional suggestion of space whales was a good idea, I think it is too far at this time.
Seleene
Body Count Inc.
Mercenary Coalition
#164 - 2012-02-17 22:29:55 UTC
Seems like I'll be on eve radio tonight with Hans Jaggerblitzen and Two Step around 0015 EVT. Be sure to tune in!

http://eve-radio.com/

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Vordak Kallager
This Game Is Terrible
Warlords of the Deep
#165 - 2012-02-17 23:20:59 UTC
Free bump for a candidate worthy or a CSM seat. Seleene for CSM7! Bear

Sa souvraya niende misain ye.

Killer Gandry
Fenghuang Corporation
#166 - 2012-02-18 16:05:21 UTC
I am pretty sure Seleene belongs on the first page.

crack'me'up
The Circle
#167 - 2012-02-18 19:36:04 UTC
Killer Gandry wrote:
I am pretty sure Seleene belongs on the first page.



I agree.

Seleene as been a exemplary member of the CSM. +1 vote here
paik
H A V O C
Test Alliance Please Ignore
#168 - 2012-02-19 05:51:17 UTC
I missed the eve radio bit any recordings?
S0mvera Delament
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
#169 - 2012-02-20 11:43:41 UTC
What is your position regarding the problems industrialists have with the mercoxit mining in deep null sec space ? Why is the elite mining not profitable as the drone regions alloys ? Will you raise a flag about balancing this known EvE problem ?

Tyvm
Krutoj
Toxic Squadron
Northern Coalition.
#170 - 2012-02-20 11:47:21 UTC
Trebor Daehdoow wrote:
Mark/Seleene worked hard on CSM6 and was a key element in its success.

Having Mark on CSM6 have definitively help push a lot of key fixes through and having his experience as well as other 0.0 members helped open up a better outlook on the issues we have worked on with CCP.
Mark is one of the few CSM members I can be proud to have worked with on CSM6.
Radarus
A Blessed Bean
Pandemic Horde
#171 - 2012-02-20 20:48:42 UTC
crack'me'up wrote:
Killer Gandry wrote:
I am pretty sure Seleene belongs on the first page.



I agree.

Seleene as been a exemplary member of the CSM. +1 vote here


+1
Noisrevbus
#172 - 2012-02-21 01:08:02 UTC  |  Edited by: Noisrevbus
I've been following the candidates for a couple of weeks now. Usually i split the votes on my accounts over two candidates: the one with the best representation and the one with the best presentation. Last year i split my votes over Elise and Vile Rat. An odd pair it may seem, but i was confident in Elise's background and i felt Vile Rat had the most interesting and well-illustrated program.

I knew voting for either was an uncertain move, they'd be prone to penetration- and attention-issues, fading either one over to a peripheral role, or fronts underprioritized for a larger agenda (with the Goon representatives in particular that's a shame, because their overall discourse is not bad, they simply prioritize in short sight and stop being inspirational when things come to a close). I felt pretty good being a bit idealistic back then though, that's what this whole spectacle is about after all. I also knew i wouldn't be completely misrepresented the way oppinion swayed at the time.

This year i'm throwing at least the majority of my votes in with Seleene. I care little about the argument wether CSM 5 or 6 set the ball in motion, but CSM 6 accomplished development attention - that means casting your vote based on realism has become far more important for CSM 7. We've already seen that things can go both good and bad with Crucible, as player concerns get adressed again.

Seleene may not be my ideal candidate - there are select issues where we have different backgrounds and are bound to have different perspectives or initial outlooks. He is however the total pakage, and in that by far, the candidate that stand out above the other. He has experience, understanding, commitment and professionalism - not only that, he reaffirms it at opportunity. He has also driven a good campaign in regard to attention, accessabilty, discourse and presentation. Several of the other candidates could learn from him in that regard, because he is taking votes from you thanks to it.

I will put it in other words...
just to make sure my declaration doesn't stop at the same old tired buzz and catchphrases:

There are several candidates who claim to represent me better (and probably could, ideally), but once you look at their examples or study their detail they either have problems presenting themselves at all, in a very limited personal light or do it in a manner that contradict their outspoken general standpoints. It's worth mentioning again: other candidates would do good in reviewing their presentations - present clear standpoints and priorities.

The current runner up in my book is the candidate from the Initiative. I'll give him an honourable mention here while i +1 Seleene's candidacy. It's a fresh overview with attention and priority to key issues of mine, which makes him appealing both in terms of presentation and representation on a superficial ideal level.

In contrast Seleene display depth and quality over time and venues. One important aspect of a good representative is the ability to understand, make yourself understood, be argumentative and reasonable even when oppinions differ - and when oppinions are strong. I've yet to see anyone else handle that in such an open, keen and belivable way this far into CSM 7.

That quality, knowing he understands the complexity of a given situation and is willing to open up to it, makes Seleene a clear pick for me this round. A candidate who is willing and able to take the discussion is better than anyone who simply agree or disagree. I prefer lasting tangible results over simply being thrown a bone, and i prefer being challenged over patted. Thus, i know voting for Seleene mean i can feel somewhat safely represented through that ideal, not quality as professionalism but as indepth understanding of the game. Showing commitment beyond that is only flattering - and i'll do my best to continue to hound everyone when it comes to priorities.

Thumbs, are up.
Seleene
Body Count Inc.
Mercenary Coalition
#173 - 2012-02-21 03:27:16 UTC
Constantinee wrote:
I think i still owe you 20 bil....I vote for you and now were even my old friend. :)


I would have been happier if the thing had lived a bit longer. Lol Thanks, m8.

paik wrote:
I missed the eve radio bit any recordings?


AFAIK it should be up any day now. I will link it as soon as it is.

Krutoj wrote:
Trebor Daehdoow wrote:
Mark/Seleene worked hard on CSM6 and was a key element in its success.

Having Mark on CSM6 have definitively help push a lot of key fixes through and having his experience as well as other 0.0 members helped open up a better outlook on the issues we have worked on with CCP.
Mark is one of the few CSM members I can be proud to have worked with on CSM6.


Thank you, m8. o7 Cool

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Seleene
Body Count Inc.
Mercenary Coalition
#174 - 2012-02-21 03:31:01 UTC
S0mvera Delament wrote:
What is your position regarding the problems industrialists have with the mercoxit mining in deep null sec space ? Why is the elite mining not profitable as the drone regions alloys ? Will you raise a flag about balancing this known EvE problem ?


The disparity / differences about money making opportunities and resources between 'regular space' and the drone regions has come up at the CSM summits and, yes, it's something I've raised my voice on. As I posted here, this is something that I've put a bit of thought into. If you have any further questions, don't hesitate to ask. Smile

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Seleene
Body Count Inc.
Mercenary Coalition
#175 - 2012-02-21 03:33:52 UTC
Noisrevbus wrote:
That quality, knowing he understands the complexity of a given situation and is willing to open up to it, makes Seleene a clear pick for me this round. A candidate who is willing and able to take the discussion is better than anyone who simply agree or disagree. I prefer lasting tangible results over simply being thrown a bone, and i prefer being challenged over patted. Thus, i know voting for Seleene mean i can feel somewhat safely represented through that ideal, not quality as professionalism but as indepth understanding of the game. Showing commitment beyond that is only flattering - and i'll do my best to continue to hound everyone when it comes to priorities.

Thumbs, are up.


Posts like this are what keep those of us that want to keep the game moving forward motivated to try even harder. Thank you. Smile

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NightHawk VenGarden
Viziam
Amarr Empire
#176 - 2012-02-21 14:49:41 UTC
Well, It wasn't but a few months ago that I was pretty much finished with EVE. CCP seemed to be doing their best to implement their plan to make big money by going the way of all other MMO's who try to recreate an alternative to WOW. IMHO Seleene was a spearhead member of CSM 6 which yelled loudly enough to get CCP's attention. This brought about an apology...but an apology is only words. It also brought about a complete revamp of a major expansion that would likely have had many 'bitter old vets' such as myself unsubbing in record numbers. This revamp is not simply words...it's an action that shows that CCP is listening again.

I want that last line to be clear so I'll state it again, CCP is listening to it's players again. For those of us who have played since the time of double mwd's and seeing something t2 was a rare sight this is a big deal. We play this game for years because we feel a connection to our community and to those who are designing our game. That's right, we feel like it's our game too. As long as CCP is listening we can continue to feel like it's our game. We've yelled loudly, we've voted what we thought was best and we feel like we're a part of what this game is becoming.

As long as CCP is listening voices like Seleene must be on CSM to yell loud enough to cut through the fog of budgeting, marketing, and day to day business and remind CCP that this is about their players and their community. That's what CSM 6 was a part of. Seleene was a leader in that movement and I believe he will continue the work he started there and as a Dev.

I'm glad to be playing eve again due to what Seleene and CSM 6 did. You have my vote m8.
Grumpy Owly
Imperial Shipment
Amarr Empire
#177 - 2012-02-21 16:16:26 UTC
Grumpy Owly wrote:
Posting in the hope for a candidacy view on the following: Bounty Hunting


Repeating request.
Seleene
Body Count Inc.
Mercenary Coalition
#178 - 2012-02-21 18:04:18 UTC
Grumpy Owly wrote:
Grumpy Owly wrote:
Posting in the hope for a candidacy view on the following: Bounty Hunting


Repeating request.


Having had a chance to give that proposal a complete read, I have to say that I think it's got potential but is ultimately too convoluted. There are pieces of it that I like with regard to ensuring that the system could not be completely exploited but, as others have said, I don't really agree with tying it into the player-controlled market in terms of how payouts are determined. I would like to see players be able to take direct control over this mechanic and tweak it as much as possible.

A long time ago after the Dominion expansion, there was supposed to be a feature implemented called 'Treaties' which would have re-vamped the current contract system and made proper bounty hunting and mercenary work actually workable. I bring this up a lot because of the fact that I've spent the majority of my EVE career in mercenary alliances / hunting people down. Having an in-game mechanic, an officially supported system, that formalizes player agreements / assassination through a modified contract system is something that I've been a proponent of from the day my corp took its first mercenary contract back in April of 2004. Having gotten very close as a CCP dev to getting that into the game only pushes me to want it and demand it that much more.

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Grumpy Owly
Imperial Shipment
Amarr Empire
#179 - 2012-02-21 20:48:46 UTC
Constantinee
Deep Core Mining Inc.
Caldari State
#180 - 2012-02-22 05:10:01 UTC
Seleene wrote:
Constantinee wrote:
I think i still owe you 20 bil....I vote for you and now were even my old friend. :)

I would have been happier if the thing had lived a bit longer. Lol Thanks, m8.



you and me both my friend, you and me both. Regardless, ive been throwing my votes your way since the beginning, not just for the obvious leadership role you had upon myself but what more you v done for the game then any other would think about astonishes me. My only request for CSM this term and hopefully you can put a little more voice out there, would be a better re look at lowsec, i haven't touched my vindicator in nearly 2.5 yrs and i miss it :(.

Other than that sad excuse of a forum post, see you at vegas/fanfest this year? Ill be the guy rockin the MC T Shirt. Drinks on me!

Constantinee video archive. http://www.youtube.com/user/Constvids?feature=mhee