Jita Park Speakers Corner

What love do you want?

Your paranoia has shifted from being amusing to being pants on head ********.

Eve is the most complex multi-player computer games created to date. The development of the Flying in Space aspects of the game need to be tested and need to be tested by developers who understand the implications of game mechanic alterations to game play. The best people to do this are players who have demonstrated over a long period of time their ability to play different aspects of the game at a high level.

These players have certain things in common:
1. They play regularly on the test server
2. They provide regular and direct feedback to CCP (not on the forums in the general discussion threads) about their playing experience
3. They do not challenge the corporate structure of CCP or make large accusations against CCP without large amounts of prior investigation.

Currently there are CCP employees who have played for numerous Alliances, rumours I have heard would suggest that: BOB (now Raiden), Goons, Evoke, DRF, Eve University, Cascade imminent, CVA, Atlas have all had players who have become employees of CCP.

In regards to your accusations of Goons attempting to rule the CSM for their own purposes: CSM 4 and CSM 5 largely ignored the development of 0.0 space. While you can claim that during this period Dominion was released that was a 0.0 centred expansion, it was sorely broken and has not added to that aspect of the game. Many 0.0 Alliances voiced their concerns that 0.0 was being neglected, block voting selected candidates into place to ensure that CSM 6 would not ignore 0.0. This was an initiative that goons took part in, an initiative that had and still has widespread support across the 0.0 spectrum.

Regarding your wormhole whine: In 2010 CCP nerfed the sites in over 60% of 0.0 space (the sanctum and haven nerf). Their logic was simply - lower quality space deserves lower quality resources and higher quality space deserves higher quality resources. CSM6 are simply saying lower quality wormhole space deserve lower quality resources than higher quality wormhole space.

Conflict of interest

A conflict of interest (COI) occurs when an individual or organization is involved in multiple interests, one of which could possibly corrupt the motivation for an act in the other.

Even the definition stressed that in italics!

I looked at your assumption. Gave a deep sigh and have gone to bed.

(We have statics to C3 and C4, so we won't be affected by this change but I can totally understand how it will royally mess with other miners)

Devils advocate: You have a personal interest in Wormhole Space. You are complaining about Wormhole Space being modified. You have been angling to attempt to change representation for Wormhole space based pilots. Any comment you make may be an attempt to manipulate the situation for personal gain. You have a conflict of interest.

At least at the moment they have an ISK incentive.

If ABC ores are dropped entirely from worm holes, I would just stop mining. Make more off sleepers anyway.
I doubt I am the only one that would stop.
Basically, Hulks are used much less and probably would stop entirely. The risk vs gain of mining other ores in WHs just isn't there without ABC ores.

Checked the values of ores which have Zydrine in them? Good luck getting that without Crokite mining

The current CSM is pretty 0.0 heavy but some of us are pretty knowledgeable about all aspects of EVE. For one thing, myself and Greyscale pretty much invented WH space.

Also, go read this if you want to get a feel for my thoughts on current events.

Anyway, I just spotted this thread. Hi, how can I help?

Without breaking the sacred NDA, I will say that we were told the blog everyone is waiting on was going to be out... before now. Obviously they are having about 30-odd people look it over which is probably not the best idea. No, the CSM still hasn't seen a draft of it nor do we know exactly what it will say beyond a few specific issues. That is the part that worries me. The CSM was nearly unanimous in our meeting with Zulu on Friday to just "get the information out there, fluff it up later". Zulu should have just written up a few paragraphs to get the initial blah blah out of the way and then others could follow on with more detailed stuff. Now it looks like they are trying to overdo it or, even worse, the blog will be 500 words of, "Trust us, this is gonna be awesome."

I'm sure it'll be fine in the end, but this is getting... annoying.

1. No one any where has said that ABCs are being dropped entirely from worm holes.
2. Minerals come from drone space. Seriously who mines anymore. Just compress in Jita and export.

I have to say, my opinion on Goons has changed dramatically.

I have fought on both sides of many of the wars in Eve and have found one HUGE truth: 99% of Eve players are the same, 99% of propoganda about how the enemy are bad, idiots, terrible people or nerds is rubbish. If anything the most annoying and elitist people in game are the 'Elite pvp' guys who treat Eve as a job.

I used to believe Goons were out to wreck the game for everybody because this is the propoganda spread by alot of people. Yes they scam, lie, cheat and steal, but that is Eve. Only this year have I found myself allied to Goons and Test and the CF and I have to say I have never had so much fun in Eve, they play the game to have fun, to enjoy it and it turns out all my preconceptions were wrong. This coalition is not only the strongest I have been in but the most enjoyable.

I also think that as a general rule what the current CSM and Mittani want is actually a BETTER game, not one that favours any particular faction.

LIke I said, this view is from someone who has been on most sides at one time or another in Hisec, Lowsec and Null life.

I see absolutely NO conflict of interest that wouldnt come from any other CSM member or CCP staff that also play the game, no matter what faction they come from.