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Could CCP be bought out by another company? Possible stock release
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Mors Magne
Terra Incognita
#1 - 2012-02-23 15:02:38 UTC
According to MMORPG.com, CCP are considering a stock release:

http://www.mmorpg.com/gamelist.cfm/loadNews/23621

I'm not sure I like the sound of this. Does this mean that CCP could be bought out by another company who couldn't care as much about us players?

Should we be seeking reassurance from CCP?
Samuel Moore Walton
Glorious Nation of Kazakhstan
#2 - 2012-02-23 15:03:45 UTC
They could put facebook style IPO up there and only allow 5% of the company to be traded.
Doc Fury
Furious Enterprises
#3 - 2012-02-23 15:05:55 UTC
Mors Magne wrote:
Should we be seeking reassurance from CCP?


LOL, maybe you should file a petition.

And maybe post in the other thread regarding this matter instead of creating another thread:

https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=72772

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Mors Magne
Terra Incognita
#4 - 2012-02-23 15:06:18 UTC
Samuel Moore Walton wrote:
They could put facebook style IPO up there and only allow 5% of the company to be traded.



I fear it could be the 'thin end of the wedge' though. If CCP get into the habit of stock releases...
Lord Ryan
True Xero
#5 - 2012-02-23 15:08:01 UTC
They couldn't care less!


Would be cool. I know I would buy up as much as possible, clean house like the Dark Knight!

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Mors Magne
Terra Incognita
#6 - 2012-02-23 15:11:31 UTC
Doc Fury wrote:
Mors Magne wrote:
Should we be seeking reassurance from CCP?


LOL, maybe you should file a petition.

And maybe post in the other thread regarding this matter instead of creating another thread:

https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=72772


No. The other post dosen't focus on the most important piece of information.
Doc Fury
Furious Enterprises
#7 - 2012-02-23 15:12:41 UTC
Mors Magne wrote:
Doc Fury wrote:
Mors Magne wrote:
Should we be seeking reassurance from CCP?


LOL, maybe you should file a petition.

And maybe post in the other thread regarding this matter instead of creating another thread:

https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=72772


No. The other post dosen't focus on the most important piece of information.


Which I am guessing you think is you?


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There's a million angry citizens looking down their tubes..at me.
Mors Magne
Terra Incognita
#8 - 2012-02-23 15:15:56 UTC
Doc Fury wrote:
Mors Magne wrote:
Doc Fury wrote:
Mors Magne wrote:
Should we be seeking reassurance from CCP?


LOL, maybe you should file a petition.

And maybe post in the other thread regarding this matter instead of creating another thread:

https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=72772


No. The other post dosen't focus on the most important piece of information.


Which I am guessing you think is you?




Perhaps with idiots like you in the community we deserve to have Eve Online sold away.
THE L0CK
Denying You Access
#9 - 2012-02-23 15:20:07 UTC
Don't worry, I'll buy them out before any others do.

Do you smell what the Lock's cooking?
Doc Fury
Furious Enterprises
#10 - 2012-02-23 15:26:11 UTC
Mors Magne wrote:
Doc Fury wrote:
Mors Magne wrote:
Doc Fury wrote:
Mors Magne wrote:
Should we be seeking reassurance from CCP?


LOL, maybe you should file a petition.

And maybe post in the other thread regarding this matter instead of creating another thread:

https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=72772


No. The other post dosen't focus on the most important piece of information.


Which I am guessing you think is you?




Perhaps with idiots like you in the community we deserve to have Eve Online sold away.


CCP can do what they wish with their company at any time and don't need to consult with, or reassure players before making business decisions. Players are not shareholders.

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There's a million angry citizens looking down their tubes..at me.
AureoBroker
Perkone
Caldari State
#11 - 2012-02-23 15:32:07 UTC
Strangely enough, unlike any other game, i suspect the EVE playerbase would have more than a few people wanting to buy stock.
Mors Magne
Terra Incognita
#12 - 2012-02-23 15:42:17 UTC  |  Edited by: Mors Magne
I quote Doc Fury from a previous post:

"CCP can do what they wish with their company at any time and don't need to consult with, or reassure players before making business decisions. Players are not shareholders. "

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I don't think the situation is quite as straight-forward as that. Much of what makes Eve special is the relationship between CCP and the players.

If CCP release stock in a certain way, the shareholders could have the most power.

(The last thing anyone wants is a situation like Star Wars Galaxies, when Sony 'improved' the game in an attempt to make it more lucrative. Of course, we all know what happened next - SWG closed down.)
Mors Magne
Terra Incognita
#13 - 2012-02-23 15:44:37 UTC
AureoBroker wrote:
Strangely enough, unlike any other game, i suspect the EVE playerbase would have more than a few people wanting to buy stock.



The problem is that you are assuming things. We don't know how the stocks are to be released. It might be that the shares are released in bulk, so that only companies can afford them.
Doc Fury
Furious Enterprises
#14 - 2012-02-23 15:46:49 UTC
Mors Magne wrote:


If CCP release stock in a certain way, the shareholders could have the most power.


Still not seeing anything unique to this thread or anything new regarding how businesses and being a shareholder works in the real world, or why CCP owes you or anyone "reassurances" about how they choose to manage their company.




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AureoBroker
Perkone
Caldari State
#15 - 2012-02-23 15:47:51 UTC
Mors Magne wrote:
AureoBroker wrote:
Strangely enough, unlike any other game, i suspect the EVE playerbase would have more than a few people wanting to buy stock.



The problem is that you are assuming things. We don't know how the stocks are to be released. It might be that the shares are released in bulk, so that only companies can afford them.

Yeah.
Since we all know demand and offer, CCP should know that letting players buy stock would increase demand, and highen the price.
So, if the aim is to raise money with an IPO, it probably makes sense to deliver atleast part in "retail".
Oh, and i don't think they'll sell the whole company. Anything sub-49% means not losing control (although a part of reliquished, sure)
Alpheias
Farmhouse.
Fraternity.
#16 - 2012-02-23 15:48:11 UTC
Doc Fury wrote:


CCP can do what they wish with their company at any time and don't need to consult with, or reassure players before making business decisions. Players are not shareholders.


We are "shareholders" in a manner of speaking and if you want evidence of that, just look back at last year and what has happened since.

I say, that does carry enough weight for CCP to reassure us that they are taking good care of their product(s) and the company.

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Doc Fury
Furious Enterprises
#17 - 2012-02-23 15:55:30 UTC
Alpheias wrote:
Doc Fury wrote:


CCP can do what they wish with their company at any time and don't need to consult with, or reassure players before making business decisions. Players are not shareholders.


We are "shareholders" in a manner of speaking and if you want evidence of that, just look back at last year and what has happened since.

I say, that does carry enough weight for CCP to reassure us that they are taking good care of their product(s) and the company.



You should file a petition or write a strongly worded letter to Hilmar demanding reassurances then. Let us know what the result is.

Being a shareholder "in a manner of speaking" conveys no rights or special considerations to players no matter what you want to believe.

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There's a million angry citizens looking down their tubes..at me.
Lord Ryan
True Xero
#18 - 2012-02-23 15:56:05 UTC
AureoBroker wrote:
Strangely enough, unlike any other game, i suspect the EVE playerbase would have more than a few people wanting to buy stock.



We are a bunch of rich fukkrrs aren't we.

All the plex some of you buy makes me feel poor.

Hey can you buy stock with a Visa?

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THE L0CK
Denying You Access
#19 - 2012-02-23 15:57:09 UTC
Mors Magne wrote:

We don't know how the stocks are to be released. It might be that the shares are released in bulk, so that only companies can afford them.



Mors Magne wrote:
The problem is that you are assuming things.


Do you smell what the Lock's cooking?
Alpheias
Farmhouse.
Fraternity.
#20 - 2012-02-23 16:06:54 UTC
Doc Fury wrote:
Alpheias wrote:
Doc Fury wrote:


CCP can do what they wish with their company at any time and don't need to consult with, or reassure players before making business decisions. Players are not shareholders.


We are "shareholders" in a manner of speaking and if you want evidence of that, just look back at last year and what has happened since.

I say, that does carry enough weight for CCP to reassure us that they are taking good care of their product(s) and the company.



You should file a petition or write a strongly worded letter to Hilmar demanding reassurances then. Let us know what the result is.

Being a shareholder "in a manner of speaking" conveys no rights or special considerations to players no matter what you want to believe.



You missed the memo where Hilmar made a public apology to the EVE community.

And you are right. But because of the size of the company, my vote (backed by my wallet) also weighs more on CCP than what it would on bloated giants like Activision-Blizzard or EA.

Agent of Chaos, Sower of Discord.

Don't talk to me unless you are IQ verified and certified with three references from non-family members. Please have your certificate of authenticity on hand.
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