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So mission bots

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Kyriella Exarch
Opportunist Enterprise
#1 - 2012-02-22 20:45:06 UTC
So ya, really don't think that report button works. War dec them and now they are in neutral corps in those nice navy raven's >.>

So if any of you see, Vlanpeloelus or YvandeleBenic in the Forge region. They hang out in unpas, shihuken and urlen. Feel free to bump them to death.

Seems ccp will just keep them around anyhows.
baltec1
Bat Country
The Initiative.
#2 - 2012-02-22 20:46:29 UTC
Grab tornados, fit them for alpha and gank them at the undock.
Chribba
Otherworld Enterprises
Otherworld Empire
#3 - 2012-02-22 20:46:55 UTC
They're prolly brothers and sisters of the spam bots

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Kyriella Exarch
Opportunist Enterprise
#4 - 2012-02-22 20:51:14 UTC
baltec1 wrote:
Grab tornados, fit them for alpha and gank them at the undock.


I thought about it to be honest, just don't know if i could gank them fast enough in a .9 sec system before that pesky concord showed up What?
baltec1
Bat Country
The Initiative.
#5 - 2012-02-22 20:55:32 UTC
Kyriella Exarch wrote:
baltec1 wrote:
Grab tornados, fit them for alpha and gank them at the undock.


I thought about it to be honest, just don't know if i could gank them fast enough in a .9 sec system before that pesky concord showed up What?


Mission boats are built for resists not buffer so it doesn't take much to overwhelm them.Blink
FeralShadow
Rattini Tribe
Minmatar Fleet Alliance
#6 - 2012-02-22 21:08:18 UTC
figure out what mission rats they are killing, and equip ammo that does the other damage types. If they're going against gurista, that's kinetic and thermic. Therefore, fit EMP ammo. It will be like punching a handful of sand.

One of the bitter points of a good bittervet is the realisation that all those SP don't really do much, and that the newbie is having much more fun with what little he has. - Tippia
Kyriella Exarch
Opportunist Enterprise
#7 - 2012-02-22 21:19:44 UTC
FeralShadow wrote:
figure out what mission rats they are killing, and equip ammo that does the other damage types. If they're going against gurista, that's kinetic and thermic. Therefore, fit EMP ammo. It will be like punching a handful of sand.


What's the response time of concord in .9 sec or .7 Just looking at it, I still have to blow thru about 33-42k hit points, in what under 20 seconds before concord is doing there single minded task again?


grr... days i still wish i had more alts
Mr Kidd
Center for Advanced Studies
Gallente Federation
#8 - 2012-02-22 22:12:29 UTC  |  Edited by: Mr Kidd
Idea: Mission objective in can. Remove mission objective. Put own can in, replace mission objective. Shoot bot when it steals your mission objective.

If bots salvage mission sites, create own wreck, wait for it to salvage? Shoot when it steals your loot?

Don't ban me, bro!
Tarsus Zateki
Viziam
Amarr Empire
#9 - 2012-02-22 22:27:13 UTC
baltec1 wrote:
Grab tornados, fit them for alpha and gank them at the undock.


Probe out their mission. Then you have the mission rats helping you. In the event you find a different missioner's deadspace and not the bot's, well you're already there you mind as well suicide gank them anyway.

You asked me once, what was in Room 101. I told you that you knew the answer already. Everyone knows it. The thing that is in Room 101 is the worst thing in the world.
Kyriella Exarch
Opportunist Enterprise
#10 - 2012-02-22 23:50:55 UTC
Tarsus Zateki wrote:
baltec1 wrote:
Grab tornados, fit them for alpha and gank them at the undock.


Probe out their mission. Then you have the mission rats helping you. In the event you find a different missioner's deadspace and not the bot's, well you're already there you mind as well suicide gank them anyway.


Ya i forgot about the rat dps.

Thanks for the evil ideas :)
Alara IonStorm
#11 - 2012-02-22 23:59:59 UTC
Kyriella Exarch wrote:

grr... days i still wish i had more alts

In some MMO's the bolded word is replaced by the word Friends...

Sad
Endeavour Starfleet
#12 - 2012-02-23 01:13:06 UTC
How do you know it is not working? Report bot does not automatically ban someone from the game. It takes an investigation to do it. AND it is better to watch and learn to find the signs that the bot is in use and ban everyone reported that matches it than one at a time.

Also you have to consider that bot makers often will "test" to see how well they can hide their bots similar to how cheat makers make use of the insta ban systems to test theirs. To counter this you dont ban in a predictable pattern. You have to force them to consider more than one factor at a time which reduces the bot's effectiveness.

This is how Valves VAC system works. Once it detects cheating it bans at a random time so you cant determine what caused you to be detected with any real accuracy.

So before you say "Report Bot" dosent work consider the real world before you discourage others from using it.

If more people would report the bots CCP would have better data to address the issue with.
gfldex
#13 - 2012-02-23 01:21:59 UTC
Mr Kidd wrote:
Idea: Mission objective in can. Remove mission objective. Put own can in, replace mission objective. Shoot bot when it steals your mission objective.


Wont work. Those bots are actually smarter then your average player. They tend to logoffski if you go global right next to them, even if you are sporting a noobship.

If you take all the sand out of the box, only the cat poo will remain.
gfldex
#14 - 2012-02-23 01:24:59 UTC
Endeavour Starfleet wrote:
How do you know it is not working? Report bot does not automatically ban someone from the game. It takes an investigation to do it. AND it is better to watch and learn to find the signs that the bot is in use and ban everyone reported that matches it than one at a time.


And even then you don't ban them just yet. You wait for the ISK to be transfered to get both ends of that chain.

If you take all the sand out of the box, only the cat poo will remain.
Endeavour Starfleet
#15 - 2012-02-23 01:45:54 UTC
gfldex wrote:
Endeavour Starfleet wrote:
How do you know it is not working? Report bot does not automatically ban someone from the game. It takes an investigation to do it. AND it is better to watch and learn to find the signs that the bot is in use and ban everyone reported that matches it than one at a time.


And even then you don't ban them just yet. You wait for the ISK to be transfered to get both ends of that chain.



Good point.

And even better if a deep investigation can reveal how far the chain goes up and do some real big bans. I look forward to the day where for instance a large amount of supercaps are just removed from the game for having majority bot produced mins in them. When they come and cry on the forums a simple GM response of how they removed some bot material from the game will involve laughter that will be heard throughout the EVE universe.

Yet in the meantime. The situation with botting is sadly just not simple. The best thing one can do is report bots. Ignore any alliance or corp rule that says you cant report blue bots. They do not have the right to tell their members to ignore EULA violating activity.
Nephilius
Deep Core Mining Inc.
Caldari State
#16 - 2012-02-23 06:54:05 UTC
Alara IonStorm wrote:
Kyriella Exarch wrote:

grr... days i still wish i had more alts

In some MMO's the bolded word is replaced by the word Friends...

Sad


Well it sure as hell isn't this one, given the pure amount of alts in it.
"If."
CCP Phantom
C C P
C C P Alliance
#17 - 2012-02-23 17:45:09 UTC
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