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Repairing Toon Reputation

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Anonymous Forum Alt
Doomheim
#1 - 2012-02-20 17:06:52 UTC
A long while back I purchased a toon used to scam a corp, and for the past year or so I've been largely inactive just training up skills. Oops

Now that I'm a bit more active, I've been trying to get myself into a corp in order to legitimately use my toon with the sullied reputation but unsurprisingly seem to just get doors slammed in my face. Lately I've been running my own POS and just researching blueprints to pass the time, but I'm starting to get bored.

Since I'm running a POS, I've been considering starting up my own gig and seeing where it goes - but I'm not sure I can really be active enough to run a corporation.

Does anyone have any advice/experience with this kind of situation?

In b4 trololol

Vimsy Vortis
Shoulda Checked Local
Break-A-Wish Foundation
#2 - 2012-02-20 17:08:52 UTC
Scamming is normal and totally okay. If you find some people with have a problem with your character having been used to scam people then those people need to be shot to death by you.
Zimmy Zeta
Perkone
Caldari State
#3 - 2012-02-20 17:08:55 UTC
Anonymous Forum Alt wrote:
A long while back I purchased a toon used to scam a corp, and for the past year or so I've been largely inactive just training up skills. Oops

Now that I'm a bit more active, I've been trying to get myself into a corp in order to legitimately use my toon with the sullied reputation but unsurprisingly seem to just get doors slammed in my face. Lately I've been running my own POS and just researching blueprints to pass the time, but I'm starting to get bored.

Since I'm running a POS, I've been considering starting up my own gig and seeing where it goes - but I'm not sure I can really be active enough to run a corporation.

Does anyone have any advice/experience with this kind of situation?

In b4 trololol



Why not just sell the character and buy a new one with a better reputation?

I'd like to apologize for the poor quality of the post above and sincerely hope you didn't waste your time reading it. Yes, I do feel bad about it.

Anonymous Forum Alt
Doomheim
#4 - 2012-02-20 17:11:00 UTC
Zimmy Zeta wrote:

Why not just sell the character and buy a new one with a better reputation?


Two reasons, I guess..

One, I don't expect there to be much interest..

Two, I wouldn't expect to get enough ISK to buy a character with a similar skill set - I'm talking >40m SP here.
Zangorus
Make-EVE-Great-Again
NO NEED LOOSE FACE
#5 - 2012-02-20 17:12:49 UTC
Carehears are too scared , u must show them your true side with a token of honesty, like ISK

Like my comment and recieve 1 million isk ingame!

War Kitten
Panda McLegion
#6 - 2012-02-20 17:13:28 UTC
Anonymous Forum Alt wrote:
A long while back I purchased a toon used to scam a corp, and for the past year or so I've been largely inactive just training up skills. Oops

Now that I'm a bit more active, I've been trying to get myself into a corp in order to legitimately use my toon with the sullied reputation but unsurprisingly seem to just get doors slammed in my face. Lately I've been running my own POS and just researching blueprints to pass the time, but I'm starting to get bored.

Since I'm running a POS, I've been considering starting up my own gig and seeing where it goes - but I'm not sure I can really be active enough to run a corporation.

Does anyone have any advice/experience with this kind of situation?

In b4 trololol



Post this with the character in question and explain the situation clearly on the forums. Once you put it on the internet, it must be true, everybody knows that.

You'll be in a new corp in no time!

I don't judge people by their race, religion, color, size, age, gender, or ethnicity. I judge them by their grammar, spelling, syntax, punctuation, clarity of expression, and logical consistency.

Anonymous Forum Alt
Doomheim
#7 - 2012-02-20 17:13:38 UTC  |  Edited by: Anonymous Forum Alt
Vimsy Vortis wrote:
Scamming is normal and totally okay. If you find some people with have a problem with your character having been used to scam people then those people need to be shot to death by you.


Its crossed my mind, but unfortunately I'm all carebear here, no real teeth to speak of that I could use to execute that plan.
Nova Fox
Novafox Shipyards
#8 - 2012-02-20 17:16:15 UTC
Turned leaf policy adopt one and stick with it over time it your little rotten side will be forgotten about.

Burning star policy, adopt a new policy and elevate it to the point it outshines anything you done in the past.

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Taedrin
Federal Navy Academy
Gallente Federation
#9 - 2012-02-20 17:21:39 UTC
First of all, your reputation is everything in EVE Online. People are paranoid for good reason in this game. If you bought a character with a bad reputation, that is unfortunately part of the package. You are stuck with it.

There are, however, a few options for you:

1) Be honest - mention up front that you purchased this character, and that this character has been used to scam/steal before. Link them to the character's sale thread where the character changed hands.

2) Don't just try to join random corporations. Get to know the locals and befriend them. If they like you, they may let you join their corporation despite your reputation. Hell, some corporations even make it a POINT to recruit people with bad reputations.

3) If you prefer a more meta-gaming strategy, you can start a new account with fresh characters with fresh reputations and try to join a corp that way. Once you have established yourself as a trusted member of the corporation, mention that you would like to have your main brought in. This would also be a good way to help repair some of the permanent damage to your reputation.

4) Start your own corporation. If you own the corporation, then the only one who can refuse you entry is yourself. And if that happens, you may have more important psychological issues to sort out before you worry about finding a corp.
Anonymous Forum Alt
Doomheim
#10 - 2012-02-20 17:23:58 UTC
Nova Fox wrote:
Turned leaf policy adopt one and stick with it over time it your little rotten side will be forgotten about.

Burning star policy, adopt a new policy and elevate it to the point it outshines anything you done in the past.


I've been trying to work on that, but I feel like being forced into being a lone wolf for the most part makes it easy to get lost in the noise.

Have any specific examples beyond being active on the forums? Because that's really the only thing I can think of, and I'm not sure it would really stop the current trend since google is easy to use to find the thread that trashes my toon's reputation.

AIt T00n
Doomheim
#11 - 2012-02-20 17:28:44 UTC
My main also has this problem! Its all fun and games.
Only difference with yours and mine is that i didnt buy the toon, i made it from scratch and then accidently ruined its reputation by pulling off a few scams and a billion isk heist - and then realized how important your reputation is in EVE, when i attempted to find a new corp to try stuff my current corp cant offer. in the end i've just stayed in my current corp, but im a director so i can do what i want anyways! If your still struggling i may be able to help you out, mail this toon and i'll get back to you.
Plyn
Uncharted.
#12 - 2012-02-20 17:32:34 UTC
Keep searching, you'll find a corp that will take you, eventually. It's like having a nasty mark in your job history IRL. Makes it harder to get that next position, but once you do finally get in there and do a good job, you're back on track.

That being said, I think people take the risk of scamming a little too seriously sometimes. I've brought known scammers into corps lots of times. We just flag them so people know to never give them roles or access to hangars.

Starting your own corp is definitely an option, even if you don't feel like you have the time to do everything. Find a couple of other players that you trust (REALLY trust) and make them directors. Corps often end up as one man shows, but they shouldn't be and don't have to be if you bring the right people in with the right skillsets and drive.
Anonymous Forum Alt
Doomheim
#13 - 2012-02-20 17:40:19 UTC
Plyn wrote:


That being said, I think people take the risk of scamming a little too seriously sometimes. I've brought known scammers into corps lots of times. We just flag them so people know to never give them roles or access to hangars.


I think that's part of the problem, but my understanding of required hangar access is poor to say the least. My toon is a rorq/orca pilot, so I think that I require hangar access to even use those ships in a corp setting?

Going with the start my own corp theme, I'm kind of leaning that way because it's starting to seem like the time investment required to get into a corp where I can actually use these ships will exceed the time required to just get a couple folks together and move out to nullsec (somehow).

It would be much easier if I could just move my 1 man corp out to nullsec where some alliance will just let me carebear for their benefit.
Gogela
Epic Ganking Time
CODE.
#14 - 2012-02-20 17:41:16 UTC
I agree with some of what's been said here. The bottom line here is that if there is any doubt at all, most CEOs are going to be keeping an eye on you. Put yourself in their shoes... would you take the chance? If you find a corp you like they will probably give you access to their GP hangers in time, but don't ever expect any serious trust. ...that would be my take on your situation.

Signatures should be used responsibly...

Vertisce Soritenshi
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#15 - 2012-02-20 17:42:22 UTC
You screwed up your characters rep. Best place for it now is Goonswarm.

Bounties for all! https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=2279821#post2279821

Killer Gandry
The Concilium Enterprises
#16 - 2012-02-20 17:47:15 UTC
Taedrin wrote:
First of all, your reputation is everything in EVE Online. People are paranoid for good reason in this game. If you bought a character with a bad reputation, that is unfortunately part of the package. You are stuck with it.

There are, however, a few options for you:

1) Be honest - mention up front that you purchased this character, and that this character has been used to scam/steal before. Link them to the character's sale thread where the character changed hands.

2) Don't just try to join random corporations. Get to know the locals and befriend them. If they like you, they may let you join their corporation despite your reputation. Hell, some corporations even make it a POINT to recruit people with bad reputations.

3) If you prefer a more meta-gaming strategy, you can start a new account with fresh characters with fresh reputations and try to join a corp that way. Once you have established yourself as a trusted member of the corporation, mention that you would like to have your main brought in. This would also be a good way to help repair some of the permanent damage to your reputation.

4) Start your own corporation. If you own the corporation, then the only one who can refuse you entry is yourself. And if that happens, you may have more important psychological issues to sort out before you worry about finding a corp.


Way too easy to do it like follows.

Have a toon scam like there is no tomorrow, then put it up for sale and buy it yourself with a second account.

Claim you didn't know about the rep and more sad stories and repeat the same stuff after a longer period of time.

Also if someone comes with a fresh account and after a while in he talks about bringing in his main with a bad history (be it own doing or not doesn't matter" is enough reason to have alarm bells ring.

Anonymous Forum Alt
Doomheim
#17 - 2012-02-20 17:50:16 UTC
Killer Gandry wrote:

Way too easy to do it like follows.

Have a toon scam like there is no tomorrow, then put it up for sale and buy it yourself with a second account.

Claim you didn't know about the rep and more sad stories and repeat the same stuff after a longer period of time.

Also if someone comes with a fresh account and after a while in he talks about bringing in his main with a bad history (be it own doing or not doesn't matter" is enough reason to have alarm bells ring.



Yea, there's really no way to truly verify that a toon is under new ownership - you wouldn't even need to buy the toon, you could just post with a couple of alts to make the sale look legitimate.

It seems like my only real option here is to work on my own corp :(
Korsiri
Federal Navy Academy
Gallente Federation
#18 - 2012-02-20 18:26:57 UTC
Anonymous Forum Alt wrote:


It seems like my only real option here is to work on my own corp :(


Invest time "cleaning" up said reputation, ie as others stated, looking for new corp and keeping a good profile, etc.

Or give up and do your own thing.

That's two options, just pick the one you prefer.
Tippia
Sunshine and Lollipops
#19 - 2012-02-20 19:00:17 UTC
Appear in an animated/real-world crossover film alongside Bob Hoskins.
arcca jeth
Dark Alliance
#20 - 2012-02-20 19:27:52 UTC
just curious, are you posting with your main? Your characters name would seem to indicate no. And if you are, how'd you get that POS up in an NPC corp?

Like someone else said, people are paranoid for good reason. this weekend someone attempted to scam me by trying to make a deal to be director in my corp. I had no isk in my wallet and no assets in corp hangars for him to steal, so there was no damage that he could do, until he started demanding that I empty my personal wallet into corp wallet.....LOL yaaaaah, no.

anyways, if you are wanting to fix your toons rep, you could start by posting with him, otherwise starting a discussion about it here with that name is going to get you a 0/10
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