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Implications of forum "likes" and perceptions of those with lots of them
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Tippia
Sunshine and Lollipops
#41 - 2012-02-17 18:31:36 UTC
Grey Stormshadow wrote:
And dislike button :D

The problem with dislikes is that they will only ever attract the “zero-star monkeys”, and in an already politicised and troll-heavy environment such as EVE, it would just be awful in every way imaginable.

Some kind of post/like ratio to keep us postingwhores in check might be a bit more useful though. P
Grey Stormshadow
Sebiestor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#42 - 2012-02-17 18:36:53 UTC
Wouldn't it be fun to have entire new group who would try gain most negative total likes? I'm sure that it would carry the content quality to entire new level.

Get classic forum style - custom videos to captains quarters screen

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Petrus Blackshell
Rifterlings
#43 - 2012-02-17 18:36:56 UTC
Tippia wrote:
Grey Stormshadow wrote:
And dislike button :D

The problem with dislikes is that they will only ever attract the “zero-star monkeys”, and in an already politicised and troll-heavy environment such as EVE, it would just be awful in every way imaginable.

Some kind of post/like ratio to keep us postingwhores in check might be a bit more useful though. P


That is probably implementable by Chribba on eve-search.

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Mr Epeen
It's All About Me
#44 - 2012-02-17 18:37:12 UTC
Petrus Blackshell wrote:

What does "liking" a post mean to you?.


Nothing.

They are completely unimportant to the way I post. I have given out three.

They have increased the amount of shitposting though, by those to whom it is somehow important to get them.

Mr Epeen Cool
Tippia
Sunshine and Lollipops
#45 - 2012-02-17 18:40:04 UTC
Grey Stormshadow wrote:
Wouldn't it be fun to have entire new group who would try gain most negative total likes? I'm sure that it would carry the content quality to entire new level.

Yes. Levels Dante couldn't even conceive of… Ugh

Petrus Blackshell wrote:
That is probably implementable by Chribba on eve-search.
It's essentially already there on the stats page: the total posts and total likes are right next to each other (0.25! yay! Lol)
Professor Alphane
Les Corsaires Diable
#46 - 2012-02-17 18:41:34 UTC
Tippia wrote:
us postingwhores


Well done Tippia admiting you have a problem is the first step in solving it P

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Zimmy Zeta
Perkone
Caldari State
#47 - 2012-02-17 18:42:30 UTC  |  Edited by: Zimmy Zeta
Tippia wrote:


Some kind of post/like ratio to keep us postingwhores in check might be a bit more useful though. P


A post/like ratio would be terrible, as it would disencourage people from posting or expressing opinions or facts that might be unpopular with the majority.


edit:
And please, stop wasting your time here and go back to working on your thesis, Tippia.

second edit:
edited typo because of OCD

I'd like to apologize for the poor quality of the post above and sincerely hope you didn't waste your time reading it. Yes, I do feel bad about it.
Chribba
Otherworld Enterprises
Otherworld Empire
#48 - 2012-02-17 18:43:10 UTC
Everyone likes to be liked?

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Petrus Blackshell
Rifterlings
#49 - 2012-02-17 18:43:54 UTC
Chribba wrote:
Everyone likes to be liked?

Okay.

Accidentally The Whole Frigate - For-newbies blog (currently on pause)
Petrus Blackshell
Rifterlings
#50 - 2012-02-17 18:44:30 UTC
Tippia wrote:
It's essentially already there on the stats page: the total posts and total likes are right next to each other (0.25! yay! Lol)


0.424... noob!

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Professor Alphane
Les Corsaires Diable
#51 - 2012-02-17 18:45:27 UTC
Chribba wrote:
Everyone likes to be liked?



Why's that a question not a statement?

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Zimmy Zeta
Perkone
Caldari State
#52 - 2012-02-17 18:48:30 UTC
Petrus Blackshell wrote:
Tippia wrote:
It's essentially already there on the stats page: the total posts and total likes are right next to each other (0.25! yay! Lol)


0.424... noob!


Sorry? I couldn't hear you over the sound of my 1,89 Cool

I'd like to apologize for the poor quality of the post above and sincerely hope you didn't waste your time reading it. Yes, I do feel bad about it.
Professor Alphane
Les Corsaires Diable
#53 - 2012-02-17 18:48:38 UTC
Tippia wrote:
It's essentially already there on the stats page: the total posts and total likes are right next to each other (0.25! yay! Lol)


Where do you find your total post count ? probably being dense but can't seem to find mine in my profile.

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Tippia
Sunshine and Lollipops
#54 - 2012-02-17 18:52:30 UTC  |  Edited by: Tippia
Zimmy Zeta wrote:
A post/like ration
Wahoo! My standard spelling error! I don't get what it is about my writing muscle memory that makes me constantly misspell that word that way… anyway.
Quote:
…would be terrible, as it would disencourage people from posting or expressing opinions or facts that might be unpopular with the majority.
Weeell… would that really happen without a dislike count? I just think that if people are that concerned about their stats compared to the point they're supposed to make (but aren't, out of fear of stats loss), then the point in question was probably not worth making to begin with, so that kind of discouragement sounds rather encouraging. P
Quote:
And please, stop wasting your time here and go back to working on your thesis, Tippia.
No! Alternating silly writing with harebrained writing is the only way to stay sane.

Professor Alphane wrote:
Where do you find your total post count ? probably being dense but can't seem to find mine in my profile.
I meant the EVE-search stats page.
Petrus Blackshell
Rifterlings
#55 - 2012-02-17 18:53:34 UTC
Professor Alphane wrote:
Tippia wrote:
It's essentially already there on the stats page: the total posts and total likes are right next to each other (0.25! yay! Lol)


Where do you find your total post count ? probably being dense but can't seem to find mine in my profile.

http://www.eve-search.com/stats/Professor_Alphane

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Chribba
Otherworld Enterprises
Otherworld Empire
#56 - 2012-02-17 18:56:54 UTC
Professor Alphane wrote:
Chribba wrote:
Everyone likes to be liked?



Why's that a question not a statement?

Not everyone might like to be liked by someone who thinks they like them but only like them for the sake of liking what they liked in the first post?

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FeralShadow
Rattini Tribe
Minmatar Fleet Alliance
#57 - 2012-02-17 18:57:10 UTC
Tippia wrote:
Likes are like SP: the total is completely meaningless, but people try to assign meaning to it anyway (either by thinking of it as epeen or as some measure of “unfairness”). What matters is where they're placed and why.



QFT

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Petrus Blackshell
Rifterlings
#58 - 2012-02-17 19:03:50 UTC
Hmm... like-post ratio (LPR) is unfair. Those who were derping around the forums since the beginning of time (see: Liang) have a definite disadvantage, as none of their old posts can be "liked" and eve-search is too good about seamless integration.

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Valei Khurelem
#59 - 2012-02-17 19:08:15 UTC  |  Edited by: Valei Khurelem
Likes and Dislikes are essentially a form of anonymous peer pressure, with no one to argue with or show themselves people who frankly aren't very socially adept are going to ferret around for posts that get them more likes than others and so on.

I think my general opinion on the likes/dislikes is it really does kill the conversation.

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Destination SkillQueue
Doomheim
#60 - 2012-02-17 19:08:35 UTC
Zimmy Zeta wrote:
Petrus Blackshell wrote:
Tippia wrote:
It's essentially already there on the stats page: the total posts and total likes are right next to each other (0.25! yay! Lol)


0.424... noob!


Sorry? I couldn't hear you over the sound of my 1,89 Cool


That counting method just favors younger posters. Tippia has been an "enthusiastic poster" for years before the like-system was even in place, while you younglings barely talk at all and are only a year or two old. For example at your current posting speed you'd have to post for more than 40 years to even catch up to Tippia's current post count. If you want the system to actually mean something, it should only count posts made after the like system was implemented.