Player Features and Ideas Discussion

First off, regarding your inappropriate comments about my corp / alliances activities, I am posting this from a job site. While I am permitted breaks often due to the nature of my work, I cannot actually log into the game as you might imply. Sucks to be me, I know, but I get to spend time thinking of these ideas...

Next, as to your rather bizarre assumptions about piloting skills as related by my previous posts, OF COURSE the better pilot wins fights. What game have you been playing where this is not the case?
Are you kidding me here, or have you taken up trolling suddenly? I don't recall your conclusions being so far out in the past.
That is totally irrelevant to the point I was making, which dealt with overall averages. Do you actually need to see "All things being equal", or "Pilot skill notwithstanding", to understand this obvious detail?

This ship is not even close to being an "I Win" button for anyone, much less a lazy dolt.

Go have a beer, calm down your ranty-ness, and try to be constructive next time.

Drop the Turret Hardpoints entirely. It will make the ship more risky to fly, but I like that myself.

I have a pilgrim, really similar to a curse, just not as strong offensively since it cloaks. I figure the curse is the cruiser role model closest to what you are trying to do.

They both state up front: Amarr Cruiser Skill Bonus: 5% bonus to Tracking Disruptor effectiveness and 10% bonus to drone hit points and damage per level. (Keep in mind, you had to get cruiser to 5 to train recon, so everyone flying this has the drone bonus up to 50%)

Now, add to this they are using medium drones, and can carry 15 of these total.

They also have up to 100% bonus to draining, and for the curse up to 200% to drain range thanks to this:
Recon Ships Skill Bonus: 40% bonus to Energy Vampire and Energy Neutralizer range and 20% bonus to Energy Vampire and Energy Neutralizer transfer amount per level

That last bonus set is devastating in combat. Sure, the drones do a lot of the DPS, but they are not what wins the fights for the curse, and to a lesser extant the pilgrim.

With your boat relying completely upon the drones in a fight, just with a logistic secondary role, I don't think the drones are really that OP at all.

10 drones dealing 100% DPS each and 5 drones dealing 200% each are still the exact same DPS.

Agreed, each race would want their own version, I picked Gallente because they would have the best overall drone boat by expectation, probably followed by Amarr.

I want it to be totally dependent on it's drones as well, plus Mary also raised some good points, and I think I have a compromise.
(I took the cue from the mentioned Curse on some details)

How would this version work?

Changes:
1 rig slots
A 75m3 drone bay, 25 bandwidth (3 sets of lights) (other races get 50m3 dronebays)
Destroyer Skill: Drone HP/Damage bonus to 15%/Level
Micro-Carrier skill: +5% Bonus Drone Control Range/Level
2 Turret Hardpoints

PREVIEW:

Gallente destroyer with up to five total small drones.
Role Bonus to small drone speed: 50%
Destroyer Skill: Drone HP/Damage bonus to 15%/Level
Requires Micro-Carrier skill, ship bonus +5% Bonus Drone Control Range/Level
10% reduction in Shield Transport capacitor use per level
and 10% reduction in Shield Transport CPU need per level


For tradition, I gave the Gallente this boat.

Micro-Carrier Destroyer
Gallente Rex Goblinus

Low Slots 4
Med Slots 2
High Slots 8

Turret HardPoints 2
Rig slots 1
Rig size Small

CPU 190 tf
Powergrid 60 MW

Drone capacity 75 m3
Drone Bandwidth 25 Mbit/sec

Cargo capacity 300

Armor: 700
Resistances:
EM: 50%
Explosive: 10%
Kinetic: 45%
Thermal: 35%

Shield: 600
Resistances:
EM: 0%
Explosive: 50%
Kinetic: 50%
Thermal: 20%

Structure: 700

Maximum targeting range: 30,000M
Max locked targets 6

Propulsion 250 m/sec
Ship warp speed 9.0 AU/S

Not at all as far as contradictions go.

The ship cannot lock a target for attack beyond 30km, but the drones themselves, once engaged, can go quite some distance beyond that, assuming skills are in place.

It also lets them react defensively based on their range, not the ship's targeting, in those instances.

As for names, Gallente lends itself to a Greek or Roman feel here, making this name fit perfectly.
It takes the drone name, hobgoblin, and combines it with the latin Rex for king, and adding a -us at the end to make the feel more appropriate.
(The proper latin is actually gobelinus for this, but the game established precedent using the drone name already, so I just compromised)

Thank you for granting me an excuse to explain that detail

Perhaps it would help if I pointed out the idea was to limit the range the drones could be sent to attack with.

As to the names, do try to keep in mind the Gallente may have a familiarity to these names you refer to, but they are not connected to them directly. The whole back-story of EVE makes this separation quite clear.
Also, some of these "names" are words in latin.
http://www.latin-dictionary.org/navitas

AB pilots are just as likely to avoid this, most frigates are already faster than a dessie.

With the right cooperation, they might be able to ambush though...

I really don't think a Carrier Destroyer needs a bigger drone bonus than the Ishtar has, even if it *is* limited to small drones. Destroyers are supposed to be frigate killers, after all.

I updated the stats with the new reduced bonuses on the OP.

As a destroyer pilot I have managed to eat an iskur all it took was defanging one that launched her drones a bit too early.