EVE New Citizens Q&A

Most ships have bonuses to specific weapon types. You will lose those if you fit a different type. However, you can fly Amarr ships, and benefit from their bonuses. Character race doesn't really matter (i'm Gallente and I fly Minmatar, Amarr and Caldari destroyers besides my race ships).


Why not dive more into Caldari weapons and tactics instead? You already have some skills, so try to learn how to effectively use Caldari firepower. Every weapon type in EVE has it's pros and cons and jumping between them in the beginning is a waste of time IMHO.

As Xerces says, bonuses come from the ship you chose to fly. There is nothing about the races that applies a bonus/penalty (history lesson: races used to limit your starting attributes, and starting professions used to decide your starting skills, but that changed to the current level starting field a good few years back).

The Caldari do have some gun boats, and with the changes to hybrid weapons some of them are beginning to look not too bad. I think rerolling a new toon just because you want to use Guns now is a little excessive. You'll be relearning any of the support skills you've already got on the new toon. Probably best just to start loading Gunnery skills into the skill queue and see what happens. If you end up liking Matari ships you'll be needing the missiles anyway *grumbles about split weapon systems*

I suppose the question I would have is why you have turned against missiles ?

As a Caldari pilot myself who can use all sub cap weapons I still find missile boats (DRAKE!!!) very effective in both pvp and pve

Where is your primary interest? PvE or PvP?

At the end of the day, this will only matter based on your support skills. If you decide to go PvP as a Caldari, the two ships you will most likely be using are either a Drake or a Tengu. The only problem is, and this really goes with any fight, you need to know when you are able to fight in them.

Both of the mentioned ships are extremely popular, however the Tengu gets pretty expensive and the Drake's tank will not hold if the people you are fighting were ready for a Drake.

There really is nothing wrong with missiles in PvP, though the number of ships you'll be able to fly effectively with them is smaller than the pool of ships you will be able to use with Gunnery.

Then I definitely recommend sticking with Caldari and Missiles. The instant damage is really only a potential issue in PvP. In PvE, if you are worrying about instant hits, you are already doing something wrong.

Def stick with the missiles and train towards a Drake then Tengu. The Tengu will allow you to clear lvl 4's with little issue and, after training the Drake, is a faster training path than battleships.

If it was, it has yet to happen. And if it does, it will not be the aspects that allow it to PvE so well. It would be towards the 100mn side of things that allow it to kite everything by hitting 5k+ m/s.

I started using turrets in missions just for a change of pace. I find them "different".

I like that they can hit anything under certain circumstances. I like the alpha of artillery popping frigates.

I really really really dislike their limited range compared to missiles, limited damage types that can affect range, the fact that they can miss, and their highly variable random damage.

Still, I plan to put more training into them, as well as all the other races of ships. I'm primarily a Caldari pilot, and so far I've only trained Minmatar. Just for the variety.

Have to disagree with most of the replies. Instant damage DOES matter, it allows you to switch to new targets faster. There's ofcourse the "I know how many volleys I need", while that may be true to some extend it's not always the case. You simply lose time because of flight time of missiles.

Missiles do reliable dps in PVE that is true but the "if PVE thus Caldari" is too sad for words. If amarr is the right choice?, well yes and no; would you stick to Amarr space then you'll mostly get EM based targets and the laserboats will do fine, but against Angels for instance they'll suck. On the other hand, the Tengu (every idiot's favourite PVE ship) only does kinetic damage and sucks at Amarr missions, both tanking as dps wise.

If you want to be allround good you have effectively 3 options:

- CNR same dps as Tengu (don't let anyone tell you differently), but it can select damage types without dps loss, is easier to tank outside kin/therm, has drones, and isn't so much a suicide gank target.

- machariel, massive dps from ACs, damage type selection, fast, massive range, medium tank. This rapes missions, is fun to fly and very versatile

- Vargur, machariel with slightly less dps and speed but more tank, especially towards em/thermal (which normally is difficult to tank with shield).



Just because something is easy doesn't make it "best" or even fun, fly what you WANT to fly, what interests you (for whatever reason), and stop listening to the stupid memes like "caldari for PVE", if you like Amarr go Amarr, they do FINE (actually they do so much dps it's silly, it's just that most people failfit them).

onve again thanks for the constructive advice and comments all appreciated

The amount of training to fly the ships you mentioned takes quite a while to train into when compared to the Tengu. As I mentioned in my post, it is not necessarily the best ship for missioning, but it is a great ship to first make a priority once you are done with lvl 3's as you will be able to successfully run lvl 4's in a Tengu long before you could in a BS.

Also, instant damage does not matter in PvE. If you are comfortable with your missiles and aware of the damage they do, you will have fired the last salvo for a target and moved on to the next before the previous target has exploded.

The range in the Tengu and speed it has also keeps you out of range from a lot of targets, and when they do get within range, your orbiting of an items will keep most damage off of you.

Just so that there is no confusion, I am not saying train to a Tengu and then consider yourself end-game. I am recommending the Tengu simply because it is a relatively fast ship to train into and can run lvl 4's competently.

There is a reason why the Tengu is so popular and it has nothing to do with idiocy. If that is truly where your mind is, that is unfortunate that you have a hard time with the reality of the situation.