Warfare & Tactics

ECM warfare is very effective in small gang situations. However, i believe that ecm is rarely used in most other battle situations.

In some occasions, i've seen a large scorpion blob used in a large BS engagement.

Overall, how do we make ECM more relavent and effective in the more common types of battle engagements in eve?

A new ship?

A new ecm module?

New ecm stats?

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What do you guys think?


Also, just a small thought to what if stasis webifiers had say 10% more base web than they do now, but have a fall off for webs.

So the closer you get the more your webbed and vice versa.

What do you guys think?


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ECM is already OP. What is a blog?

Well, now you mention it, I can't find a Projected ECM Burst module or ship, there is a bomb, but it's not ideal.

And the web thing, where is the anti-web module? A stasis stabiliser module is long overdue.

ECM is fine. Some "highsec pvpers" and lowsec pirates wont use ECM for "e honor" reasons, but most well organized fleets will bring some ECM. Pretty much any subcap fight in nullsec will have ecm used on both sides.

Webs are of course hugely helpful in catching fast stuff, given the tendency toward using fast nano fits in small gangs having a few webbers in your gang can help a lot (not a bad idea to have your tacklers carry webs and maybe a huginn or rapier or two)

heh was in my domi in a fight. saw ec300s on me and turned the ECCM on. soon as i did i got jammed

Why did you have to quote me in your insane statement?.

Perhaps the MWD and AB mods were designed for escaping an engagement, some dual prop often.

The general reason to be mad about ECM is that random is random, which means you think the RNG is always out to get you.

Perception: (by which I mean the absolute truth) When you need your ECM drones to get a jam off, they never do. When your target is about to pop, his ECM drones always do.

In short, human subjectivity is subjective. Personally I don't think it's a good game mechanic from a entertainment point of view and that there are ways to implement it that are just as effective but more 'fun' for everyone involved,but there are valid arguments either way so I don't get too worked up about it.

Oh, and OP, ECM is pretty well balanced as is, at all levels of combat.

ECM has been nerfed with good reason more than any other module or tactic in EVE history.

Picture this: Fleet of 180 battleships with 40 or more falcons supporting. Every falcon gets a permajam with one jammer. BS fleet mops up quick.

ECM really, really does not need a buff, or we'd have the old BOB battleship fleets back.

ECM in general is fine but multiple ECM projections on a single target should be penalized somehow. As it is ECM severely hampers the viability of fighting outnumbered – something I think is worth encouraging.
Maybe increase ECM strength but introduce a stacking penalty of several ECM modules on a single target so that the net effect nerfs the ECM effect at some point with a certain amount of active modules.
Or maybe introduce a small signal strength increase for a few seconds on targets that just have been successfully jammed.

Alternatively increase the strength of ECCM implants and/or the strength of information warfare linking.

I don't know about the ideal sollution but as it is ECM and ECM-drones deter small gangs or solo pilots from fighting "the blob".

This is true in a world in which you field ECM and your opponents don't.
But picture fighting 1:3 with a falcon on your side while the opposing side field the proportional amount of falcons – 3.Or if you fight solo 1:3 with a set of 5x light ECM drones and your opponents field 15x light ECM drones.

Yes, in ideal scenarios only the gangs that fight outnumbered would field ECM to level the battlefield. Having ECM stack or penalize successful jam-cycles would in effect nerf the large gang fielding an proportional amount of ECM against a small gang.