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N3oXr2ii
the united
#1 - 2012-02-09 17:23:16 UTC
i'm not sure if this has been reported yet but if u put up a covert cyno at a pos when u shut it off the pos attacks
i thought i had made a mistake

but every time i try it the pos aggro's

yes the pos is set correctly i have triple checked anybody else noticed this problem ?

I'm sure some dush will flame but thats eve

 please don't take out your real life issues out on me not my fault if your fat ugly bullied divorced broke or  have a pimple thats big and red maybe your mom wants you out her basement or a jock has gave you a wedgie your flames only make me laff at your sadness your hidden tears are as juicy as the whiners i blob or the blobs i hide from

Heimdallofasgard
Ministry of Furious Retribution
Insidious.
#2 - 2012-02-09 17:25:05 UTC
*douche
N3oXr2ii
the united
#3 - 2012-02-09 17:26:56 UTC
i honestly think dush sounds sexier and manly

c/d?

 please don't take out your real life issues out on me not my fault if your fat ugly bullied divorced broke or  have a pimple thats big and red maybe your mom wants you out her basement or a jock has gave you a wedgie your flames only make me laff at your sadness your hidden tears are as juicy as the whiners i blob or the blobs i hide from

Skydell
Bad Girl Posse
#4 - 2012-02-09 17:31:34 UTC
That explains why Black Ops BS are going for higher ISK. Everyone is losing them to thier own POS.

They are bugged on Test server too. I can't dock mine.
N3oXr2ii
the united
#5 - 2012-02-09 17:36:00 UTC
Skydell wrote:
That explains why Black Ops BS are going for higher ISK. Everyone is losing them to thier own POS.

They are bugged on Test server too. I can't dock mine.



I have not checked on the test server maybe a good idea don't want to die anymore lol

unless you are trolling then shame on you **** a hedgehog pls

 please don't take out your real life issues out on me not my fault if your fat ugly bullied divorced broke or  have a pimple thats big and red maybe your mom wants you out her basement or a jock has gave you a wedgie your flames only make me laff at your sadness your hidden tears are as juicy as the whiners i blob or the blobs i hide from

Ranger 1
Ranger Corp
Vae. Victis.
#6 - 2012-02-09 17:40:42 UTC
N3oXr2ii wrote:
i'm not sure if this has been reported yet but if u put up a covert cyno at a pos when u shut it off the pos attacks
i thought i had made a mistake

but every time i try it the pos aggro's

yes the pos is set correctly i have triple checked anybody else noticed this problem ?

I'm sure some dush will flame but thats eve


Bug Report made I assume?

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N3oXr2ii
the united
#7 - 2012-02-09 17:43:27 UTC
yes well i made a petion about it

is there a seperate way to make a bug report i have never done this thing b4

how would i do this ?

thanks

 please don't take out your real life issues out on me not my fault if your fat ugly bullied divorced broke or  have a pimple thats big and red maybe your mom wants you out her basement or a jock has gave you a wedgie your flames only make me laff at your sadness your hidden tears are as juicy as the whiners i blob or the blobs i hide from

Skydell
Bad Girl Posse
#8 - 2012-02-09 17:45:40 UTC
N3oXr2ii wrote:
Skydell wrote:
That explains why Black Ops BS are going for higher ISK. Everyone is losing them to thier own POS.

They are bugged on Test server too. I can't dock mine.



I have not checked on the test server maybe a good idea don't want to die anymore lol

unless you are trolling then shame on you **** a hedgehog pls


Not a troll, it won't let me dock. I am in a null system that has a docking fee and it asks for ISK, then tells me to pay the ISK, I can't dock. It isn't lack of ISK the char has 8 billion they only want 145K or something.

In your case I am guessing it's something to do with your POS standings and GCC red and the new RR mechanics changes to GCC.

Remote rep an alt and you get GCC, a Covert Cyno is seen as some sort of remote assistance.. But I am just pulling it out of my ass and as suggested, Petition that. Losing a BlOp to a bug? Yea, I want my ship back.
N3oXr2ii
the united
#9 - 2012-02-09 18:15:11 UTC
yea i think u got a point i lost a widow and a rapier 900 mil in tottal and 2 silly loss mails nearly lost a reedmer and sin just lucky the warp battry hit the widow so other 2 went back into the shield (why shoot me but let me in the shield 0.o) rapier died too fast to save

you know what petions are like logs show nothing etc :(

 please don't take out your real life issues out on me not my fault if your fat ugly bullied divorced broke or  have a pimple thats big and red maybe your mom wants you out her basement or a jock has gave you a wedgie your flames only make me laff at your sadness your hidden tears are as juicy as the whiners i blob or the blobs i hide from

N3oXr2ii
the united
#10 - 2012-02-10 07:37:49 UTC
anybody else noticed an issue with this or other pos bugs ?

 please don't take out your real life issues out on me not my fault if your fat ugly bullied divorced broke or  have a pimple thats big and red maybe your mom wants you out her basement or a jock has gave you a wedgie your flames only make me laff at your sadness your hidden tears are as juicy as the whiners i blob or the blobs i hide from

Mag's
Azn Empire
#11 - 2012-02-10 09:43:56 UTC
Rivur is Welsh.

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Dark Drifter
holdendeezz Co.
Pirate Lords of War
#12 - 2012-02-10 13:11:19 UTC
POSs are relay badly bugged at the moment .

personal ones i have experienced are:

the afor mentioned BO cyno bug

and:

POSs are able to lock outside the maximum aloud limit (250km) and take one shot at thair target. lost a scan ship this way.
it died at over 300km from the closest weapons battrey and all the GMs sed was we cant reproduce this you must have lag issues,

at witch point i took a few friends and duplicated the results with spectacular results. our pos locked 2 frigits that was at 335km and started shooting them. <- this is not how POSs work. GM still wont have any of it, i event offered them the chance to see it first hand, they turned me down
David Grogan
University of Caille
Gallente Federation
#13 - 2012-02-10 15:12:44 UTC
Dark Drifter wrote:
POSs are relay badly bugged at the moment .

personal ones i have experienced are:

the afor mentioned BO cyno bug

and:

POSs are able to lock outside the maximum aloud limit (250km) and take one shot at thair target. lost a scan ship this way.
it died at over 300km from the closest weapons battrey and all the GMs sed was we cant reproduce this you must have lag issues,

at witch point i took a few friends and duplicated the results with spectacular results. our pos locked 2 frigits that was at 335km and started shooting them. <- this is not how POSs work. GM still wont have any of it, i event offered them the chance to see it first hand, they turned me down



fraps that bug.... then upload it to youtube and send ccp the link......... thats how i got ccp to address a bug i had with pos aggression way back in the days when poses shot alliance jumpfreighters

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N3oXr2ii
the united
#14 - 2012-02-11 05:57:23 UTC
i spoke with gm about this and other (unrelated ) issues and at first it was usual response that everyone gets no logs etc.

But after a few msg back and forth the gm which i dont think i'm allowed to name (which is a shame really)
really came through made a huge effort and sorted out everything out

i'm not sure if the bug is being fixed or what is happening with it but i was really impressed with the speed and effort the gm put in.

i sure won't be lighting any kind of cyno or leaving my pos shields for any reason in the near future thats for sure lol.

i been hearing a lot of horror stories like in the above posts.

I wish they would sort these bugs out b4 nerfing perfectly good ships (sc's n dreads no drones thats ******** honestly) i just can't get over that in 0.0 ok whatever but not in low sec not every dread n mothership has 45 others to support it but thats another story.

I'm also suprised at the lack of tards flaming for the sake of having nothing else to type whats up with that.

 please don't take out your real life issues out on me not my fault if your fat ugly bullied divorced broke or  have a pimple thats big and red maybe your mom wants you out her basement or a jock has gave you a wedgie your flames only make me laff at your sadness your hidden tears are as juicy as the whiners i blob or the blobs i hide from

Valentyn3
Deep Core Mining Inc.
#15 - 2012-02-11 06:01:59 UTC
N3oXr2ii wrote:
i honestly think dush sounds sexier and manly

c/d?


I'd prefer "doosh" but that sounds like a sound effect or maybe a European energy drink brand.

You no buy Quafe. You buy Doosh!!!

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Jack Tronic
borkedLabs
#16 - 2012-02-11 06:44:56 UTC
POSes have also been shooting cloaked ships which has been hilarious in wspace lately.
Reaver Glitterstim
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#17 - 2012-02-11 07:05:26 UTC
N3oXr2ii wrote:
anybody else noticed an issue with this or other pos bugs ?


I noticed a POS bug. Back in Tyrannis, Incursion, and Incarna, if a corporation that I wasn't a member of had set me (as a pilot) to blue standings, I was able to have my ships in space near their POS without it firing at me. In Crucible, that ceased to happen and the POS would fire at me. As I have heard from multiple sources, POSes are not supposed to recognize individual pilot standings and should only recognize corp/alliance to corp/alliance standings. So apparently the previous thing with the POSes not shooting at me was a bug. I guess it's fixed now...not that I'd call that a good fix.

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Tau Cabalander
Retirement Retreat
Working Stiffs
#18 - 2012-02-11 07:44:07 UTC  |  Edited by: Tau Cabalander
Dark Drifter wrote:
POSs are relay badly bugged at the moment .

personal ones i have experienced are:

the afor mentioned BO cyno bug

and:

POSs are able to lock outside the maximum aloud limit (250km) and take one shot at thair target. lost a scan ship this way.
it died at over 300km from the closest weapons battrey and all the GMs sed was we cant reproduce this you must have lag issues,

at witch point i took a few friends and duplicated the results with spectacular results. our pos locked 2 frigits that was at 335km and started shooting them. <- this is not how POSs work. GM still wont have any of it, i event offered them the chance to see it first hand, they turned me down

POS don't have a lock limit. This is often a surprise to people that don't know this. Especially uninformed Logistics pilots suddenly in pods that thought they were safe past 249 km.

POS batteries do have an activation limit when auto-targeting: 90 km for short-range and 300 km for everything else. This limit does not apply if a gunner is controlling the battery; in this case only the battery's max usable range applies.

I've never checked if activation is measured from the tower or the battery (things like turret optimal and falloff are measured from the tower, but for EWAR it is from the battery), though 335 km makes sense if it is 300 km from the battery:
30 km force field + 5 km anchor outside force field + 300 km activation range = 335 km from tower

I'd be more curious to know if it was auto-targeting beyond 300 km from the battery, not the tower.
Cindy Marco
Sebiestor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#19 - 2012-02-11 15:18:21 UTC  |  Edited by: Cindy Marco
Dark Drifter wrote:

POSs are able to lock outside the maximum aloud limit (250km) and take one shot at thair target. lost a scan ship this way.
it died at over 300km from the closest weapons battrey and all the GMs sed was we cant reproduce this you must have lag issues,

at witch point i took a few friends and duplicated the results with spectacular results. our pos locked 2 frigits that was at 335km and started shooting them. <- this is not how POSs work. GM still wont have any of it, i event offered them the chance to see it first hand, they turned me down


As was said, POS have no locking range limit. Some batteries even have activation ranges of over 300km. Which means the POS can shoot you own its own out to at least 330 KM. If a gunner is controlling the guns the only range limitation is that of the guns. With Large Arty on a Minmatar Tower you could get an optimal + 2x falloff of just over 1700KM. But you won't see a grid that big without serious Grid-fu.

Reaver Glitterstim wrote:
N3oXr2ii wrote:
anybody else noticed an issue with this or other pos bugs ?


I noticed a POS bug. Back in Tyrannis, Incursion, and Incarna, if a corporation that I wasn't a member of had set me (as a pilot) to blue standings, I was able to have my ships in space near their POS without it firing at me. In Crucible, that ceased to happen and the POS would fire at me. As I have heard from multiple sources, POSes are not supposed to recognize individual pilot standings and should only recognize corp/alliance to corp/alliance standings. So apparently the previous thing with the POSes not shooting at me was a bug. I guess it's fixed now...not that I'd call that a good fix.


People used to use that fact so they could make an entire POS only target 1 person at a time. You would set attack to standings, and manipulate standings on the field to control entire POS. That is why individual standings don't matter to POS, and there is supposed to be a time delay as well.
N3oXr2ii
the united
#20 - 2012-02-11 18:19:41 UTC
From reading the posts i'm learning alot about pos macanics that will prob help me in teh future seems the fourms are working as intended a rarity in eve :P

i have the pos gunner skill trained to 4 but have never used it in a combat situation it sounds fun but my pos are in lows sec and don't mine or protect anything really so prob won't get the chance in the future.

thanks btw

 please don't take out your real life issues out on me not my fault if your fat ugly bullied divorced broke or  have a pimple thats big and red maybe your mom wants you out her basement or a jock has gave you a wedgie your flames only make me laff at your sadness your hidden tears are as juicy as the whiners i blob or the blobs i hide from