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Feedback thread for the new EVE Online, and the new community website

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Crucis Cassiopeiae
Ministry of War
Amarr Empire
#101 - 2012-02-07 20:34:54 UTC
Wollari wrote:
I find the community section and especially how fansites and fan creations are presented very old fashioned ... it's a plain copy&paste of the old spreadsheet with lots of dots.

I hope this sections gets revamped as well someday. Some grouping and a list with screenshot/logo and short intro text to introduce the fansite, creation or 3rd party application.


I agree, too.
Community site need to feel like new EVE online site, and not just copy paste.

Or... only new players deserves good stuff and once you are in community no needs for updates for you.

Vote Issler Dainze for CSM7! http://community.eveonline.com/council/voting/Vote.asp?c=470 
annoing
Chuck Norris Kick Ass Corp
#102 - 2012-02-07 20:41:30 UTC
I dont like it - nuff said
Indyga
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#103 - 2012-02-07 20:42:16 UTC
Wow... give the web team a pat on the back from me! As a web dev myself i'm really impressed with how nicely you used webgl in there!
Razin
The Scope
#104 - 2012-02-07 20:44:45 UTC
Matthias Duran wrote:
Horrible design, really. It initially "looks" good, but then you try to use it and realize just how unintuitive the site is.

As a test, go to the main page, and pretend you're a completely new customer. Would you have any way of even knowing that these forums exist? If someone then told you about them, how long would it take you to find them?

As others have pointed out, links are spread all over the place, in many places with no indication of what you will actually find when you click there. If you're looking for something in particular, and it isn't directly linked on the main page, finding it is a major pain in the ass because its not always obvious where to look.

And then getting back to where you came from is equally unintuitive, unless you like the "back arrow" clickedy-click-click-click...
CCP Guard
C C P
C C P Alliance
#105 - 2012-02-07 20:45:22 UTC
Crucis Cassiopeiae wrote:
Wollari wrote:
I find the community section and especially how fansites and fan creations are presented very old fashioned ... it's a plain copy&paste of the old spreadsheet with lots of dots.

I hope this sections gets revamped as well someday. Some grouping and a list with screenshot/logo and short intro text to introduce the fansite, creation or 3rd party application.


I agree, too.
Community site need to feel like new EVE online site, and not just copy paste.

Or... only new players deserves good stuff and once you are in community no needs for updates for you.


Good news then. We are going to build a new Community site and the part I look forward to the most is to make a whole new fansite listing page which allows players to find the type of fansite they are after and improves the promotion of fansites. We don't like this old fansite page any more than you guys do ;). We have lots of ideas for the new fansite page and we're going to be talking to fansite operators at Fanfest among other things and discussing the way forward.

That being said, I think the current community site is a lot easier to navigate than the old EVE-O site. But that's just my opinion :)

CCP Guard | EVE Community Developer | @CCP_Guard
Crucis Cassiopeiae
Ministry of War
Amarr Empire
#106 - 2012-02-07 20:51:31 UTC
CCP Guard wrote:
Crucis Cassiopeiae wrote:
Wollari wrote:
I find the community section and especially how fansites and fan creations are presented very old fashioned ... it's a plain copy&paste of the old spreadsheet with lots of dots.

I hope this sections gets revamped as well someday. Some grouping and a list with screenshot/logo and short intro text to introduce the fansite, creation or 3rd party application.


I agree, too.
Community site need to feel like new EVE online site, and not just copy paste.

Or... only new players deserves good stuff and once you are in community no needs for updates for you.


Good news then. We are going to build a new Community site and the part I look forward to the most is to make a whole new fansite listing page which allows players to find the type of fansite they are after and improves the promotion of fansites. We don't like this old fansite page any more than you guys do ;). We have lots of ideas for the new fansite page and we're going to be talking to fansite operators at Fanfest among other things and discussing the way forward.

That being said, I think the current community site is a lot easier to navigate than the old EVE-O site. But that's just my opinion :)


If that's so... thnx guys... :)

Vote Issler Dainze for CSM7! http://community.eveonline.com/council/voting/Vote.asp?c=470 
Pottsey
Enheduanni Foundation
#107 - 2012-02-07 20:58:53 UTC
Terrible design for high resolutions desktops and high resolutions mobiles! Evil It feels like a step backwards a decade.
Who's idea was it to have 50% of the page empty on high resolutions desktops screens and high res tablets? Talk about no foresight, as tablets move towards high resolution this will be a massive problem.

On my desktop I have something like a 1300x1200 resolution empty page with a tiny strip used in the middle. Not much better on high resolutions tablets where it's hard to read due to the massive wasted space. This new design is really flawed and only works on medium resolutions.
Bienator II
madmen of the skies
#108 - 2012-02-07 21:07:16 UTC
i am somehow missing the "awards" section listing reviews, ratings, awards etc

how to fix eve: 1) remove ECM 2) rename dampeners to ECM 3) add new anti-drone ewar for caldari 4) give offgrid boosters ongrid combat value
CCP Byzantine
C C P
C C P Alliance
#109 - 2012-02-07 21:10:17 UTC  |  Edited by: CCP Byzantine
Regarding the issue of our other sites that don't have the "EVE Websites" dropdown. We'll add that soon, we just didn't want to be deploying ALL of our websites the same day.

Also, as CCP Alice pointed out earlier the EVE Websites dropdown is just the first step towards a more comprehensive solution to this problem, we'll be iterating on this in the future.
CCP Byzantine
C C P
C C P Alliance
#110 - 2012-02-07 21:19:24 UTC
Bloodpetal wrote:
Before I get into this, I think your main page is supposed to have "Text Slides" that change periodically? That's not happening for me. The first one says : "One Universe To Explore and Conquer" the next says "Discover your future in the sandbox", and they're not changing as I believe they should be.


This is actually how it's supposed to be for now, we'll add the automatic sliding real soon.
CCP Byzantine
C C P
C C P Alliance
#111 - 2012-02-07 21:24:44 UTC
Palovana wrote:
The Capsule looks like a round, green, deranged disco mirror-ball with one plume of exhaust (disconnected from the ball) instead of an actual capsule model.


These are actually the new designs for Capsules. Coming this spring we'll all be flying around in green deranged disco balls.





Nah. Kidding.



Are you on Linux by any chance Palovana?
Salpun
Global Telstar Federation Offices
Masters of Flying Objects
#112 - 2012-02-07 21:26:15 UTC
IE 8 is haveing problems with the static pictures. It does not load but if you refresh the page it loads.

If i dont know something about EVE. I check https://wiki.eveonline.com/en/wiki/ISK_The_Guide

See you around the universe.
Nova Fox
Novafox Shipyards
#113 - 2012-02-07 21:41:18 UTC  |  Edited by: Nova Fox
Intel G33 graphics card optiplex 330 dell. Drivers updated beyond vendor's latest.

Website loads engine trails, nebula, and some parts of some ships such as minmatar sails but entire ship is mostly missing.
Map only displays interesting star system with picture links but no stars.

Static display (ie) works.

Other browsers with webGL (Fire Fox, Chrome)

Platforms win 7, virtual boxed Fedora 7.

Works okay on home computer win 7 pro nvida 550s.

Also could we possibly get the pertty map color by actual star? And possibly icons of allainces and empires on sov map with links to the various people's pages.

Dust 514's CPM 1 Iron Wolf Saber Eve mail me about Dust 514 issues.
Palovana
Inner Fire Inc.
#114 - 2012-02-07 21:47:46 UTC  |  Edited by: Palovana
CCP Byzantine wrote:
Palovana wrote:
The Capsule looks like a round, green, deranged disco mirror-ball with one plume of exhaust (disconnected from the ball) instead of an actual capsule model.


These are actually the new designs for Capsules. Coming this spring we'll all be flying around in green deranged disco balls.





Nah. Kidding.



Are you on Linux by any chance Palovana?


Yes, Ubuntu 10.10 here. I saw that other Linux users were also having rendering issues as well.

Damn, I was looking forward to flying around in a green deranged disco ball.

EDIT: tried in a Virtual Box running XP 32-bit (the only Windows install I have) but nothing but blackness instead of the ship viewer (latest Google Chrome version). Will try a VB later on a box with more graphics horsepower.

EDIT 2: Firefox 10.0 on Xubuntu 11.10, with a computer that has some GPU power (GTX460) has no framerate issues but the models still display only lights/thrusters, and the capsule is still the ball. In a Windows VM on this box, Firefox 10.0 displays the static images and the latest Google Chrome also gives the empty screen where the ship should be.

The VM behavior is probably because the "VirtualBox Graphics Adapter" in the VM is not WebGL-compatible despite enabling 3D acceleration in the VM.

Please support: export of settings in editable format

Your stuff goes here.
Jericho D'Angel
Bourbon's Anonny Corp
#115 - 2012-02-07 21:53:43 UTC
Only thing I absolutely HATE is having to log on again and again and again every time I move through links...
DarthNefarius
Minmatar Heavy Industries
#116 - 2012-02-07 22:18:31 UTC
So far I like the new websites +1... been long timesince I gave CCP a +1 for anything outside of the game
An' then Chicken@little.com, he come scramblin outta the    Terminal room screaming "The system's crashing! The system's    crashing!" -Uncle RAMus, 'Tales for Cyberpsychotic Children'
Blue Harrier
#117 - 2012-02-07 22:57:08 UTC
Good effort so far team, I like the new colours but some of the clickable links could be a shade darker so they show up better, colour disadvantaged people like myself have trouble with pastel shades.

The ship spinning works fine in IE9 and Firefox 10 on my games machine and I have static ship pictures in IE9 and Firefox 10 on my Dell laptop

The star maps work fine on my games machine, rotate, zoom, interactive, slide etc in both browsers, but on the Dell they loose the slide part everything else works as intended.
The only thing you might add to the star map is the ability to show the regions belonging to each faction when their name is clicked on the bottom row. It would give a prospective player a sort of NSEW orientation of where they were on the map.

A better explanation of what the viewer is looking at would be helpful as well because just seeing lots of coloured dots may mean little to someone who has not actually played the game.

Once the other parts of the sites are integrated with this ‘mother’ site I think many of the complaints will subside but I do agree with many that a more prominent way of getting to patch downloads would be helpful.

Expanding the choice of ‘professions’ would also be a good thing and I hope Bloodpetal does not mind but this quote from his/her post should be the ‘Corporate Mantra’ to headline the selection page;

"EVE Professions are for demonstration only. The freedom of your actions in the sandbox determines your profession, not the other way around."

Good effort but needs extra work to improve.


"You wait - time passes, Thorin sits down and starts singing about gold." from The Hobbit on ZX Spectrum 1982.
Kyoko Sakoda
Achura-Waschi Exchange
Monyusaiya Industry Trade Group
#118 - 2012-02-07 22:58:53 UTC  |  Edited by: Kyoko Sakoda
Yes, yes, yes! I could give constructive feedback but I'm just too excited. Now please work on cleaning up the forums and Gate UI in the same fashion!

Edit: Actually there is something immediately noticeable. I always have Fraps running and I know a lot of my friends do as well. The FPS counter shows in the top-left of the website. I think this is because of Flash but since I'm right-clicking and not getting a Flash menu, I'm not sure. Maybe look into this?
Ratklif
Orbidon Galactic Industries
#119 - 2012-02-07 23:39:09 UTC
Nice fuckin home page
Where do you go NOW to get the latest patch to download. Since CCP refuses to fix the issues XP 64
Joten Koldani
Independence Construction
#120 - 2012-02-07 23:44:52 UTC
I like the new site; yet another example of CCP's constant quest for innovation and improvement!

However, there are two things you may wish to attend to:

1. The Robin's Egg Blue of certain links and highlights on white background. I find myself squinting at these; it is painful and distracting.

2. The complete lack of music! Set the tone of what is to be a potential new player's first glimpse into the world of EVE with some of those tracks that so enchanted me the first time I shuttled off into space so many years ago.