EVE General Discussion

They can inhumanly D-scan with some uncanny coverage and if there is a newer entry than them they cloak up until number of entries matches them again.

Other attempts to avoid thier decection would also be met with better and more intelligent bots to be made.

That is all.

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1 I am not advodacting against the removal of local just trying to counter one argument for local removal. Its neary stupid to remove a 'feature' because of botting alone. Reworked local for null would bring in a new level of thinking to null but it be much better if it brought a new level of stratagey.

2 I agree D-Scan needs to be fixed severly possibly made funner or infinitely much more useful.

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D-Scan of course doesnt tell hostiles from freindlies, has a cooldown of 5 seconds and has limited range.

However.... this proves that bots are quite capable of being a bit smarter than you give them credit for and honestly a simple bot is more than capable of counting +1 to d-scan results and then set panic mode. Where as you may forget to hit dscan before transition cloaking (to prevent from getting nailed yourself) and may not catch anything in local when they cloak up. The 100 or so bots may be perfectly clocking thier d-scan to one ever 0.05 of a second and then share thier results.

DScan doesn't give as much information and doesn't distinguish between friendlies and neutrals/hostiles and has a limited range. It wouldn't necessarily stop botting but it would make it harder. CCP could also add random false positives to DScan and keep everyone on edge, and bots inactive. ..(edit) also cloaked ships don't show up on DScan. ..not sure how I left that one out, because it alone would make botters lives miserable.

Anyway, there's more reasons to remove Local Chat intel than just addressing bots, as far as I'm concerned that would just be a bonus side effect not the purpose of removing Local Intel.

no man
ask any guy who lives in a wormhole
pressing d-scan is the ultimate in player skill
no AI could emulate such a feat

My bomber laughs at you.

people who want local removed should just move into a wormhole and stfu
local information is also vital for people who actually wants to pvp, used for hunting targets, specially for chasing someone through several systems...! unless CCP drasticly improves Dscan. removes cloaking, and much more, local should remain in non wormhole space

It's pretty clear the the current d-scan needs to be reworked for delayed local. This is stated in pretty much every topic advocating delayed local.

For example, my preference for the new d-scan would be to have the auto passive and the manual active modes (with some range and detectability tradeoffs for both), where the liberal use of the active scanner would tun your ship into a warpable signature.

Are you talking about WH space or Null? Cause Anoms in WH space pay a pittance compared to Sigs. Also, the sentence you quoted referred quite clearly to WH space.

I swear, I think you're English is steadily worsening. I could've sworn you were able to use definite articles not two days ago. And parse-able sentence structures yesterday.



Yeah. That was part of my point... and then what's this about cloaked warp ins? That's why you've been d-scanning for probes this whole time.

Pretty much this. Bots monitor the data coming into the client and when someone enters the system your client is forcefully updated. The bots recognize this signature change and therefore know immediately that someone came into system and to dock up or start their friend/foe subroutine before docking up.

lmao you think people mine in nullsec like peasants

you're dumb

mine hulls, duhhh