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CCP go after the bots and stop making pointless rules.
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Kelvan Hemanseh
Hole Exploitation Inc.
#1 - 2012-02-02 01:29:09 UTC
For those that don't know:

EVE System > Channel MOTD: Welcome to the recruitment channel. This channel is intended for those players looking to find a new corporation, as well as those looking to enlist new players. Other activities, such as non-recruitment discussion is not permitted.

No scamming is allowed in this channel and this includes, but not limited to, using the recruitment channel as a platform to find or target players to scam. As per subject, we ask everyone to use their best judgment before contracting assets or ISK as part of corporation’s recruitment process and any deals made or finalized outside this channel are done at your own risk and responsibility.

An additional recruitment source is the Alliance and Corporation Recruitment Center section of the forums.

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GM Haggis > Players are reminded that anyone charging you for corporation entry is more than likely scamming the everloving bejesus out of you, please report anyone convoing you after asking for a corp in this channel :)

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The above is one of the dumber things you guys have done. One of the attractions to eve is that its a harsh dark place and that you can scam people. I can support protecting those who are < 1 year old but everyone else should be fair game and you should be going after things everyone hates like bots.

How exactly are you going to enforce this as well? If you intend to use the enigmatic logs, good luck those should still show nothing. Please don't run the game into the ground like you almost did with your amazing space barbies.
rodyas
Tie Fighters Inc
#2 - 2012-02-02 01:31:00 UTC
Hot sauce, yeah its too bad CCP is stopping easy scamming and boy are you pissed at how easy this game is becoming easier.

Thanks for running here and whining about it to us. We are now more informed.

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Terminal Insanity
KarmaFleet
Goonswarm Federation
#3 - 2012-02-02 01:38:22 UTC  |  Edited by: Terminal Insanity
Kelvan Hemanseh wrote:
EVE System > Channel MOTD: Welcome to the recruitment channel. This channel is intended for those players looking to find a new corporation, as well as those looking to enlist new players. Other activities, such as non-recruitment discussion is not permitted.

No scamming is allowed in this channel and this includes, but not limited to, using the recruitment channel as a platform to find or target players to scam. As per subject, we ask everyone to use their best judgment before contracting assets or ISK as part of corporation’s recruitment process and any deals made or finalized outside this channel are done at your own risk and responsibility.

An additional recruitment source is the Alliance and Corporation Recruitment Center section of the forums.

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GM Haggis > Players are reminded that anyone charging you for corporation entry is more than likely scamming the everloving bejesus out of you, please report anyone convoing you after asking for a corp in this channel :)

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Are you ******* kidding me? This isnt GuildWars or WOW, what the ****....

This has gotta be some bullshit. Eve common sense = Everything is allowed unless its IRL/GTC scamming. Adding these random rules, restricting what is a common eve practice... is ********. It absolutely goes against what eve is about...

Someone said its "easy scamming" yeah and so what? Survival of the fittest. If those idiots just recruit blindly out of Recruitment channel, that should be on their head, not mine. Thats their fault for being stupid.

A fool and his cash are easily parted... Until CCP draws up some arbitrary rules at least

"War declarations are never officially considered griefing and are not a bannable offense, and it has been repeatedly stated by the developers that the possibility for non-consensual PvP is an intended feature." - CCP
Kelvan Hemanseh
Hole Exploitation Inc.
#4 - 2012-02-02 01:38:30 UTC
rodyas wrote:
Hurrrrrrrrrrrr


you should be going after things everyone hates like bots

That's the important part. Hell even the miners are complaining about bots.
Karn Dulake
Doomheim
#5 - 2012-02-02 01:41:40 UTC
why is no one going after mittans the mighty then
I dont normally troll, but when i do i do it on General Discussion.
rodyas
Tie Fighters Inc
#6 - 2012-02-02 01:41:46 UTC
There is now a solo thread where some people would like to discuss that with you as well as another dead thread.

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Alara IonStorm
#7 - 2012-02-02 01:47:36 UTC
So if I am reading this correctly players who hate EVE are ruining the game by scamming in the official recruitment channel forcing CCP to move resources away from stopping Bots.

Perhaps if these gentlemen got more original instead of hanging out in a mostly newbie channel scamming easy mode CCP could get back to bot hunting.

EVE is supposed to be harsh and dark that is what draws people to the game not wannabe Scammers that can't step outside the CCP Channels because it is to cold.
rodyas
Tie Fighters Inc
#8 - 2012-02-02 01:53:04 UTC
Alara to help stop a ***** slap form coming to you from the OP, he had a more spiritual connections with bots, and your not suppose to be distract by his other whinings.

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Kelvan Hemanseh
Hole Exploitation Inc.
#9 - 2012-02-02 01:53:50 UTC  |  Edited by: CCP Spitfire
The op was a hard read I'll admit but I'll try and answer the part of your post with the least amount of *snip* Spitfire.

Alara IonStorm wrote:
So if I am reading this correctly players who hate EVE are ruining the game by scamming in the official recruitment channel forcing CCP to move resources away from stopping Bots.



Kelvan Hemanseh wrote:
I can support protecting those who are < 1 year old but everyone else should be fair game and you should be going after things everyone hates like bots.


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It would be nice if that channel was full of newbies, but most of it is spam bots posting huge ads for terrible corporations or random trolls.
Brock Nelson
#10 - 2012-02-02 01:56:31 UTC
I have a hard time figuring out how recruitment channel scams relates to bots

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Nehlaki Hedion
Imperial Shipment
Amarr Empire
#11 - 2012-02-02 01:57:59 UTC
Kelvan Hemanseh wrote:
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you should be going after things everyone hates like bots.

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I lol'd
Kelvan Hemanseh
Hole Exploitation Inc.
#12 - 2012-02-02 01:58:37 UTC
Brock Nelson wrote:
I have a hard time figuring out how recruitment channel scams relates to bots


Kelvan Hemanseh wrote:
One of the attractions to eve is that its a harsh dark place and that you can scam people. I can support protecting those who are < 1 year old but everyone else should be fair game and you should be going after things everyone hates like bots.
Corina Jarr
en Welle Shipping Inc.
#13 - 2012-02-02 01:59:08 UTC
Its their channel, they can have whatever rule they want in it. Just like Help.


They can even charge entry if the mechanics allowed it (hmmm).
Kelvan Hemanseh
Hole Exploitation Inc.
#14 - 2012-02-02 02:02:40 UTC
Corina Jarr wrote:
Its their channel, they can have whatever rule they want in it. Just like Help.


They can even charge entry if the mechanics allowed it (hmmm).


Kelvan Hemanseh wrote:
you should be going after things everyone hates like bots.


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Alara IonStorm
#15 - 2012-02-02 02:05:47 UTC
Kelvan Hemanseh wrote:
The op was a hard read I'll admit but I'll try and answer the part of your post with the least amount of downs.

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It would be nice if that channel was full of newbies, but most of it is spam bots posting huge ads for terrible corporations or random trolls.

So what you are saying is that their is aggressive recruitment to help New Players get into the game but Scammers and Trolls are hurting new players and driving attention away from Bots.

Also I would like to assume you are not a terrible person and that shot insulting people with the disability Down Syndrome was just brought on by a small bout a rage coming from an all Cheetos diet. I took the liberty of reporting your post for you.

It is a shame if your offensive actions caused resources to be moved away from hunting bots where they belong.
Corina Jarr
en Welle Shipping Inc.
#16 - 2012-02-02 02:07:10 UTC
Kelvan Hemanseh wrote:
writes in pointless definitions

Let me put it to you this way.


New text to an old rule (the rule already existed, just wasn't as well advertised): 20 seconds.

Fighting bots: a lifetime.
Brock Nelson
#17 - 2012-02-02 02:09:26 UTC
Kelvan Hemanseh wrote:
Brock Nelson wrote:
I have a hard time figuring out how recruitment channel scams relates to bots


Kelvan Hemanseh wrote:
One of the attractions to eve is that its a harsh dark place and that you can scam people. I can support protecting those who are < 1 year old but everyone else should be fair game and you should be going after things everyone hates like bots.


Still don't see it...I see scamming and bots but they don't relate

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Kelvan Hemanseh
Hole Exploitation Inc.
#18 - 2012-02-02 02:14:00 UTC
Alara IonStorm wrote:
Kelvan Hemanseh wrote:
The op was a hard read I'll admit but I'll try and answer the part of your post with the least amount of downs.

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It would be nice if that channel was full of newbies, but most of it is spam bots posting huge ads for terrible corporations or random trolls.

So what you are saying is that their is aggressive recruitment to help New Players get into the game but Scammers and Trolls are hurting new players and driving attention away from Bots.

Also I would like to assume you are not a terrible person and that shot insulting people with the disability Down Syndrome was just brought on by a small bout a rage coming from an all Cheetos diet. I took the liberty of reporting your post for you.

It is a shame if your offensive actions caused resources to be moved away from hunting bots where they belong.


I'll say my point again because you still don't get it. Scamming is one of the attractions to the game. Scamming people should be allowed no matter the area BUT (and a big BUT) players <1 year old (newbies) should be protected. Instead of making rules that are as solid as a highsec wardec they should be actively going after these bots. I mentioned one phenotype of bot about and that is the one in the recruitment channel spamming ads.

I'm not the only one wanting bots to die fiery deaths either look at these threads:

https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=64897&find=unread
https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=64101&find=unread

Those were only the low effort to find ones as well right here on the front page.
rodyas
Tie Fighters Inc
#19 - 2012-02-02 02:16:36 UTC
You should read the latest minutes from the december meeting, they talked about bots in it and what they are doing. Unless CCP putting resources into minutes pisses you off, and ruins the dark corner eve is suppose to exist in.

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Kelvan Hemanseh
Hole Exploitation Inc.
#20 - 2012-02-02 02:16:40 UTC
Brock Nelson wrote:
Kelvan Hemanseh wrote:
Brock Nelson wrote:
I have a hard time figuring out how recruitment channel scams relates to bots


Kelvan Hemanseh wrote:
One of the attractions to eve is that its a harsh dark place and that you can scam people. I can support protecting those who are < 1 year old but everyone else should be fair game and you should be going after things everyone hates like bots.


Still don't see it...I see scamming and bots but they don't relate


They are in the same channel. One of those most everyone hates, guess which one?
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