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New Goon vcode requirement - hacked accounts to ensue - will anybody be surprised?

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Sirane Elrek
Garoun Investment Bank
Gallente Federation
#141 - 2012-01-28 20:09:28 UTC
scooter Kondur wrote:
Naynomi wrote:
scooter Kondur wrote:
Lyris Nairn wrote:
Karadion wrote:
There is no god but Solo Drakban and The Mittani is his messenger.

There is no god but Solo Drakban and The Mittani is his messenger.


as leaders you have a duty to ensure that the information collected will not be used to hack accounts....how can you offer this assurance?


You're a dipshit.

Stop posting, thanks.


so because i am a dipshit others are not owed the courtesy of leadership to not have their account information misused?

god damn it shut up either you are comfortable giving out your api and everything's fine or you aren't and then you should go and get a different alliance because this **** isn't up to debate and repeating your ******** point doesn't make it any less worthless
Ranger 1
Ranger Corp
Vae. Victis.
#142 - 2012-01-28 20:09:35 UTC  |  Edited by: Ranger 1
scooter Kondur wrote:
Corina Jarr wrote:
Andski wrote:
You don't 'need' a good enough answer, all you need to know is that it's required and if you don't like it, tough.

This.


Also, as you dismiss perfectly good and reasonable answers, I have placed you in the "fail toll" bin.


Answers that accuse one of being fail corp thief are not relevant...answers that tell me to do it because i said so are not reasons


You are going to have to try harder to keep boosting the page count on this one, you are getting too repetitive to hold peoples amused interest much longer.

I would suggest making a few more false accusations, and a couple of really juicy personal horror story lies, that should allow you to milk at least 4 more pages.

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Corina Jarr
en Welle Shipping Inc.
#143 - 2012-01-28 20:10:29 UTC  |  Edited by: Corina Jarr
scooter Kondur wrote:
Naynomi wrote:
scooter Kondur wrote:
Lyris Nairn wrote:
Karadion wrote:
There is no god but Solo Drakban and The Mittani is his messenger.

There is no god but Solo Drakban and The Mittani is his messenger.


as leaders you have a duty to ensure that the information collected will not be used to hack accounts....how can you offer this assurance?


You're a dipshit.

Stop posting, thanks.


so because i am a dipshit others are not owed the courtesy of leadership to not have their account information misused?

There is no courtesy of leadership under a dictator. They are courteous by not blowing you up.


Go back in time, go to Iraq, and ask Saddam why he decided to do certain things.
Edit: really CCP, its just a name.Roll
Lyris Nairn
Perkone
Caldari State
#144 - 2012-01-28 20:12:39 UTC
They have to stop Hussein from Saddamizing their EVE Online.

Sky Captain of Your Heart

Reddit: lyris_nairn Skype: lyris.nairn Twitter: @lyris_nairn

2bhammered
Cyberpunk 2077
#145 - 2012-01-28 20:12:52 UTC  |  Edited by: 2bhammered
Ranger 1 wrote:
scooter Kondur wrote:
Lyris Nairn wrote:
Karadion wrote:
There is no god but Solo Drakban and The Mittani is his messenger.

There is no god but Solo Drakban and The Mittani is his messenger.


as leaders you have a duty to ensure that the information collected will not be used to hack accounts....how can you offer this assurance?


As has been pointed out, this information cannot be used to hack accounts. Moot point.



You are very, very wrong.

Giving people your account name does increase chances of being hacked, same with emails, you can not get away from that.

But I do not think Goons would hack you nor do I think one needs to worry, question is rather why waste the time? API sucks, another tool for control freaks and geeks to try and control other peoples life. Besides, I know of more spies in goonscurrently than goons themselves do by simple power of observing my fellow gamer in ts/mumble and ingame.

Real reason is=no one can rat in delve while OP is going and we need to check your ISK accounts Lol
Ira Theos
#146 - 2012-01-28 20:13:30 UTC  |  Edited by: Ira Theos
scooter Kondur wrote:
These are not fantasies...I do not believe in luck only calculated risk.....basically goons are at best gathering info to stack the deck in their favour at worst participating in account hacking


Hey Scooter, Sorry, but I have to agree with Andski on this one.

If you have a problem with the fact that the Goons are involved in massive Botting and RMT Operations in Eve and on the web, then your obvious solution is to drop your membership from them. They are going to drop you before they change their accounting methods.LolLolLol
scooter Kondur
Doomheim
#147 - 2012-01-28 20:14:20 UTC
I am repeating this until there is a legitimate answer...why do goons need to see complete asset list..ganking is admirable...great social engineering.....if it is to aid in the hacking of others accounts....not cool...dictatorships can still offer transparency...what is it goon leadership is trying to hide?
Tippia
Sunshine and Lollipops
#148 - 2012-01-28 20:15:25 UTC  |  Edited by: Tippia
2bhammered wrote:
You are very, very wrong.

Giving people your account name does increase chances of being hacked, same with emails, you can not get away from that.
…except that they're not asking for that, so he's actually very very right.

Quote:
Real reason is=no one can rat in delve while OP is going and we need to check your ISK accounts Lol
I'm beginning to suspect that CCP needs to check the OP's accounts…

scooter Kondur wrote:
I am repeating this until there is a legitimate answer
So why haven't you stopped?
A plethora of legitimate answers have been given and you've proven utterly incapable of arguing why they're not legitimate.
Naynomi
Vorkuta Inc
#149 - 2012-01-28 20:15:48 UTC
scooter Kondur wrote:
Naynomi wrote:
scooter Kondur wrote:
Lyris Nairn wrote:
Karadion wrote:
There is no god but Solo Drakban and The Mittani is his messenger.

There is no god but Solo Drakban and The Mittani is his messenger.


as leaders you have a duty to ensure that the information collected will not be used to hack accounts....how can you offer this assurance?


You're a dipshit.

Stop posting, thanks.


so because i am a dipshit others are not owed the courtesy of leadership to not have their account information misused?


It's corporate level API, dipshit. Not the same as individual level. At all.
2bhammered
Cyberpunk 2077
#150 - 2012-01-28 20:16:50 UTC  |  Edited by: 2bhammered
scooter Kondur wrote:
I am repeating this until there is a legitimate answer...why do goons need to see complete asset list..ganking is admirable...great social engineering.....if it is to aid in the hacking of others accounts....not cool...dictatorships can still offer transparency...what is it goon leadership is trying to hide?



I gave you the real reason, control, make sure your subjects are doing well but not too well and participate in OPS and pay enough taxes. Nothing else, so calm down and lose the tinfoil hat. What they are doing is the same as all the biggest alliances do in order to have greater control.

You want a new ship? ISK? funny,we checked your alt, the one that mined the **** out of our moons the other night when you said you were too sick to come with the fleet to attack Raiden!!Lol
scooter Kondur
Doomheim
#151 - 2012-01-28 20:17:00 UTC
Tippia wrote:
2bhammered wrote:
You are very, very wrong.

Giving people your account name does increase chances of being hacked, same with emails, you can not get away from that.
…except that they're not asking for that, so he's actually very very right.

Quote:
Real reason is=no one can rat in delve while OP is going and we need to check your ISK accounts Lol
I'm beginning to suspect that CCP needs to check the OP's accounts…



CCP is welcome to check all my accounts..

Issue is goons want complete asset list and the answer they are offering is because we said so....this may be a good answer for 5 year olds....not for adults...you can roleplay this all you want but it isnt an answer
Lady Starfire
State War Academy
Caldari State
#152 - 2012-01-28 20:17:06 UTC
scooter Kondur wrote:
I am repeating this until there is a legitimate answer...why do goons need to see complete asset list..ganking is admirable...great social engineering.....if it is to aid in the hacking of others accounts....not cool...dictatorships can still offer transparency...what is it goon leadership is trying to hide?

SCOOTER KONDUR WHY DID YOU LEAVE ME AND THE ONE ARM LIBERATION FRONT? WE MISS YOU WE BELIEVE YOU MIGHT HAVE BEEN A TRADER BUT WERE SLOWLY WORKING OUR WAY UP TO ASKING FOR YOU SWEET HARD API BUT YOU LEFT BEFORE WE COULD! WILL YOU COME BACK TO US AND BE OUR TWO ARM SPY AGAIN?
scooter Kondur
Doomheim
#153 - 2012-01-28 20:17:40 UTC
2bhammered wrote:
scooter Kondur wrote:
I am repeating this until there is a legitimate answer...why do goons need to see complete asset list..ganking is admirable...great social engineering.....if it is to aid in the hacking of others accounts....not cool...dictatorships can still offer transparency...what is it goon leadership is trying to hide?



I gave you the real reason, control, make sure your subjects are doing well but not too well and participate in OPS and pay enough taxes. Nothing else, so calm down and lose the tinfoil hat. What they are doing is the same as all the biggest alliances do in order to have greater control.



Not a valid answer...people have alts
scooter Kondur
Doomheim
#154 - 2012-01-28 20:18:20 UTC
Lady Starfire wrote:
scooter Kondur wrote:
I am repeating this until there is a legitimate answer...why do goons need to see complete asset list..ganking is admirable...great social engineering.....if it is to aid in the hacking of others accounts....not cool...dictatorships can still offer transparency...what is it goon leadership is trying to hide?

SCOOTER KONDUR WHY DID YOU LEAVE ME AND THE ONE ARM LIBERATION FRONT? WE MISS YOU WE BELIEVE YOU MIGHT HAVE BEEN A TRADER BUT WERE SLOWLY WORKING OUR WAY UP TO ASKING FOR YOU SWEET HARD API BUT YOU LEFT BEFORE WE COULD! WILL YOU COME BACK TO US AND BE OUR TWO ARM SPY AGAIN?



I left because you have ADHD and can not stay on subject

why do goons need complete asset list?
Lyris Nairn
Perkone
Caldari State
#155 - 2012-01-28 20:18:35 UTC
scooter Kondur wrote:
I am repeating this until there is a legitimate answer...why do goons need to see complete asset list..ganking is admirable...great social engineering.....if it is to aid in the hacking of others accounts....not cool...dictatorships can still offer transparency...what is it goon leadership is trying to hide?

What sort of answer would you consider legitimate?

But you're right, even dictatorships can offer transparency. The neat thing about them is that they don't have to do so.

Sky Captain of Your Heart

Reddit: lyris_nairn Skype: lyris.nairn Twitter: @lyris_nairn

Naynomi
Vorkuta Inc
#156 - 2012-01-28 20:19:20 UTC
scooter Kondur wrote:
Tippia wrote:
2bhammered wrote:
You are very, very wrong.

Giving people your account name does increase chances of being hacked, same with emails, you can not get away from that.
…except that they're not asking for that, so he's actually very very right.

Quote:
Real reason is=no one can rat in delve while OP is going and we need to check your ISK accounts Lol
I'm beginning to suspect that CCP needs to check the OP's accounts…



CCP is welcome to check all my accounts..

Issue is goons want complete asset list and the answer they are offering is because we said so....this may be a good answer for 5 year olds....not for adults...you can roleplay this all you want but it isnt an answer


It's a Corporate level access list, this does not list everything owned by every character. And if it did, who cares?
Naynomi
Vorkuta Inc
#157 - 2012-01-28 20:19:57 UTC
FYI corporate level access lists are corp hangars and POS items. This is to keep track of people trying to sell supers/etc to the enemy.
Naynomi
Vorkuta Inc
#158 - 2012-01-28 20:20:14 UTC
When I grow up, I want to be as much of a dipshit as you.
Tippia
Sunshine and Lollipops
#159 - 2012-01-28 20:20:26 UTC  |  Edited by: Tippia
Naynomi wrote:
It's corporate level API, dipshit. Not the same as individual level. At all.
Wait what? Has the OP really misunderstood things on that fundamental level?! Lol

scooter Kondur wrote:
Issue is goons want complete asset list and the answer they are offering is because we said so.
And that's a sufficient reason. If you don't want to abide by their rules, you're free to stop playing in their back yard. Why is this such an issue for you?
Quote:
Not a valid answer...people have alts
Does not invalidate the answer — it actually rather reinforces why they'd need the information (or, preferably, even more).
TuonelanOrja
Doomheim
#160 - 2012-01-28 20:20:32 UTC
scooter Kondur wrote:
I am repeating this until there is a legitimate answer...why do goons need to see complete asset list..ganking is admirable...great social engineering.....if it is to aid in the hacking of others accounts....not cool...dictatorships can still offer transparency...what is it goon leadership is trying to hide?

0/10 stop feeding this rtard

Not a veteran, just bitter..