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Incursions: CCP is too slow - now we will act

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Skippermonkey
Deep Core Mining Inc.
Caldari State
#781 - 2012-01-27 11:40:26 UTC
1% inflation isnt a bad thing

COME AT ME BRO

I'LL JUST BE DOCKED IN THIS STATION
Tallian Saotome
Nuclear Arms Exchange Inc.
#782 - 2012-01-27 12:04:15 UTC
Skippermonkey wrote:
1% inflation isnt a bad thing

if its 1% a year, its a good thing, if its 1% quarterly, its not a bad thing, if its 1% monthly, thats a bit much for a healthy economy to take.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hyperinflation

If you read over that, it doesn't appear that we are anywhere near real world levels to be dangerous, however, it is still fairly high, and since things like rat bounties are increasing with inflation, it is causing it to be much harder for alot of people to pay the bills without devoting more time to eve.

Tho, for those of us who sell plex, its getting better every day Pirate

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Scarlet Intelis
Sebiestor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#783 - 2012-02-03 21:41:04 UTC
Good ole Nerf bat needs to hurry up and swing at high sec incursions. Cool
Harlot Hohannson
Eye on Wang Poo
#784 - 2012-02-04 12:11:15 UTC
ingreedsions
AtreusIII
KarmaFleet
Goonswarm Federation
#785 - 2012-02-05 08:36:48 UTC
You got my vote there krissada, heres to ya.

One of the few space rednecks. Your welcome!
Erwin Castle Jakuard
Tear Pool
#786 - 2012-02-06 14:40:34 UTC
Came expecting griefers doing a good job of removing high sec incursions and many tears of bears. Left with economic knowledge and reminiscing high school Econ.

Why are there 3 high sec incursions up? Wtf? If this is your acting now you might just want to biomass...
Alice Saki
Nocturnal Romance
Cynosural Field Theory.
#787 - 2012-02-06 16:18:39 UTC
So Supporting this! Never Done an Incursion but to **** it up for others, sounds Great!

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Unnamed Enemy
Imperial Shipment
Amarr Empire
#788 - 2012-02-06 19:06:02 UTC
Sounds like the RMTers are hurting.

Yes people don't need to buy ISK from RMTers anymore - they can just run incursions.

People don't need to run multiple bots to generate decent income - they can just run incursions.

People with real life money to spend, can just buy isk from CCP, 500 mil for 15 bucks is much better than 350, and there is no risk.

So yeah . . . .keep the tears flowing RMTers, or start stockpiling blackbirds.
Erwin Castle Jakuard
Tear Pool
#789 - 2012-02-06 21:43:57 UTC
Im not a RMT i just like to laugh at carebear tears. and now i also get to laugh at wanna be griefers carebear tears since they are unable to do what they claim.

How many incursions are still up?
Ziranda Hakuli
Brutor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#790 - 2012-02-06 22:42:01 UTC
SO the Goons brick and their fellow slaves/pets are still trying to nerf them poor incursions in empire. and you guys want is for everyone to play to your style and move to 0.0 and be a slave to you.

Bunch of idiots here from what i see. i think you all need to find a new life since the only thing Darius III can do is insult degrade and such his fleet when they fail once again....did i say once? oh hell we know its been more then 3 times he failed.
Andski
Science and Trade Institute
Caldari State
#791 - 2012-02-06 22:43:44 UTC
Relativity Holding Corp
AAA Citizens

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Ziranda Hakuli
Brutor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#792 - 2012-02-06 22:54:17 UTC
Andski wrote:
Relativity Holding Corp
AAA Citizens


So
Andski
Science and Trade Institute
Caldari State
#793 - 2012-02-07 00:49:36 UTC
horrible poster in a horrible renter alliance

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Lieutenant Brooker
Calamitous Nephropidae Ltd.
#794 - 2012-02-14 11:11:01 UTC
I really hope you can stick it to 'em. What happened to CCP's whole idea of null and low-sec being the most rewarding, as well as dangerous? It's not very balanced with high-sec incursions, is it? Hi-sec gaybears have already made too much ISK off of these, IMO.
Hemmo Paskiainen
#795 - 2012-02-15 22:56:26 UTC
Lieutenant Brooker wrote:
I really hope you can stick it to 'em. What happened to CCP's whole idea of null and low-sec being the most rewarding, as well as dangerous? It's not very balanced with high-sec incursions, is it? Hi-sec gaybears have already made too much ISK off of these, IMO.


if ccp would make it this easy to farm isk in o.o it would cost them too much $$. we had similar thing once when anomalies jus were buffed. they nerfed it when o.o finaly started to fill up with ppl.
high sec player profile: 1 account playing not much & not much isk usage
o.o player profile: 2-4 accounts eve addicts & spending alot of isk

which of those 2 player profiles will be the most likly fund their activities with plex when the situation hets created?
both! yet o.o player had bigger isk soendage & is biggest $$ supplier for CCP

If relativity equals time plus momentum, what equals relativity, if the momentum is minus to the time?
Vaerah Vahrokha
Vahrokh Consulting
#796 - 2012-02-16 11:45:24 UTC  |  Edited by: Vaerah Vahrokha
Aren Dar wrote:


If inflation was 1% both BEFORE and AFTER incursions, how does that show that incursions made things "much worse"? Incursions were only released in November 2010, they are making a claim that goes back to mid-2010.

FWIW I suspect that CCP decided that mild inflation was preferable to deflation - because of the risks of deflationary spirals - and re-balanced the various ISK sources in that direction through 2010.


Nope, EvE was a mildly deflating economy for a very long time.

Nope, we don't have mild inflation since it's 1% a month not a yar.

Nope, inflation is not preferable, because markets lacking a short sell feature already favor buy and hold vs proper trading.

With a 1% inflation a month all you have to do is to buy an highly liquid item, wait, resell for profit even disregarding trends. This can cause all sort of long term issues.


Unnamed Enemy wrote:
Sounds like the RMTers are hurting.

Yes people don't need to buy ISK from RMTers anymore - they can just run incursions.

People don't need to run multiple bots to generate decent income - they can just run incursions.

People with real life money to spend, can just buy isk from CCP, 500 mil for 15 bucks is much better than 350, and there is no risk.



Not really. Those who need to convert PLEX in ISK tend to be active PvPers with not enough time on their hands to grind back the losses or just can't stand hitting bland NPCs.

RMTers and incursion runners are efficient ISK makers, one multi boxing lots of small pay tasks, the others 1-2 boxing a big pay task. Both can and will have ability to sell ISK for real money to the customers above.

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Tallian Saotome
Nuclear Arms Exchange Inc.
#797 - 2012-02-16 11:54:34 UTC
Hemmo Paskiainen wrote:
Lieutenant Brooker wrote:
I really hope you can stick it to 'em. What happened to CCP's whole idea of null and low-sec being the most rewarding, as well as dangerous? It's not very balanced with high-sec incursions, is it? Hi-sec gaybears have already made too much ISK off of these, IMO.


if ccp would make it this easy to farm isk in o.o it would cost them too much $$. we had similar thing once when anomalies jus were buffed. they nerfed it when o.o finaly started to fill up with ppl.
high sec player profile: 1 account playing not much & not much isk usage
o.o player profile: 2-4 accounts eve addicts & spending alot of isk

which of those 2 player profiles will be the most likly fund their activities with plex when the situation hets created?
both! yet o.o player had bigger isk soendage & is biggest $$ supplier for CCP

You do realize CCP make more money off a plex than a one month sub, right?

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Zmaster BloodLust
BloodLust Enterprises
Amarr Locals Alliance.
#798 - 2012-02-17 02:07:46 UTC  |  Edited by: Zmaster BloodLust
Tallian Saotome wrote:
Hemmo Paskiainen wrote:
Lieutenant Brooker wrote:
I really hope you can stick it to 'em. What happened to CCP's whole idea of null and low-sec being the most rewarding, as well as dangerous? It's not very balanced with high-sec incursions, is it? Hi-sec gaybears have already made too much ISK off of these, IMO.


if ccp would make it this easy to farm isk in o.o it would cost them too much $$. we had similar thing once when anomalies jus were buffed. they nerfed it when o.o finaly started to fill up with ppl.
high sec player profile: 1 account playing not much & not much isk usage
o.o player profile: 2-4 accounts eve addicts & spending alot of isk

which of those 2 player profiles will be the most likly fund their activities with plex when the situation hets created?
both! yet o.o player had bigger isk soendage & is biggest $$ supplier for CCP

You do realize CCP make more money off a plex than a one month sub, right?


Dont care.... if ppl actualy plaid subs CCP wouldnt have to resort to low marketing standards as the NEX store... I just hope they dont make EVE a "P2W" game (Pay to Win)...
for God Sakes's i got 2 accounts Sub paid for a year... way cheaper then to "Buy" a plex every month!

Besides the problem here isnt who pays sub or buys PLEX... prob here is Incursions Gaybears tht make tons of ISK and buy PLEX from the market...
Hemmo Paskiainen
#799 - 2012-02-18 17:27:43 UTC
Tallian Saotome wrote:
Hemmo Paskiainen wrote:
Lieutenant Brooker wrote:
I really hope you can stick it to 'em. What happened to CCP's whole idea of null and low-sec being the most rewarding, as well as dangerous? It's not very balanced with high-sec incursions, is it? Hi-sec gaybears have already made too much ISK off of these, IMO.


if ccp would make it this easy to farm isk in o.o it would cost them too much $$. we had similar thing once when anomalies jus were buffed. they nerfed it when o.o finaly started to fill up with ppl.
high sec player profile: 1 account playing not much & not much isk usage
o.o player profile: 2-4 accounts eve addicts & spending alot of isk

which of those 2 player profiles will be the most likly fund their activities with plex when the situation hets created?
both! yet o.o player had bigger isk soendage & is biggest $$ supplier for CCP

You do realize CCP make more money off a plex than a one month sub, right?


do you realize ccp can control the plex prices indirectly if they want to?

so question do they?

nex store was extra income with plex converting to items. incursions are doing the same.

cosmic anomalies got nerfed first time because it costed too much $$. Yet incursions are doing the same thing now...

so what has been changed that could infuencing eve the same way > higher plex prices

If relativity equals time plus momentum, what equals relativity, if the momentum is minus to the time?
Tallian Saotome
Nuclear Arms Exchange Inc.
#800 - 2012-02-19 15:13:32 UTC
Hemmo Paskiainen wrote:
Tallian Saotome wrote:
Hemmo Paskiainen wrote:
Lieutenant Brooker wrote:
I really hope you can stick it to 'em. What happened to CCP's whole idea of null and low-sec being the most rewarding, as well as dangerous? It's not very balanced with high-sec incursions, is it? Hi-sec gaybears have already made too much ISK off of these, IMO.


if ccp would make it this easy to farm isk in o.o it would cost them too much $$. we had similar thing once when anomalies jus were buffed. they nerfed it when o.o finaly started to fill up with ppl.
high sec player profile: 1 account playing not much & not much isk usage
o.o player profile: 2-4 accounts eve addicts & spending alot of isk

which of those 2 player profiles will be the most likly fund their activities with plex when the situation hets created?
both! yet o.o player had bigger isk soendage & is biggest $$ supplier for CCP

You do realize CCP make more money off a plex than a one month sub, right?


do you realize ccp can control the plex prices indirectly if they want to?

so question do they?

nex store was extra income with plex converting to items. incursions are doing the same.

cosmic anomalies got nerfed first time because it costed too much $$. Yet incursions are doing the same thing now...

so what has been changed that could infuencing eve the same way > higher plex prices


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