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EVE Online: Crucible 1.1 deployment thread

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Alex Sinai
Doomheim
#441 - 2012-01-24 14:17:04 UTC  |  Edited by: Alex Sinai
gunnergonk wrote:
the comphensation brigade are here again!

il tell you what i was once to when i complained.

ok so the server is down its been down for 2 hours, yes and an extra 25 minutes yesterday and the 30 minutes extra last wednesday. its approximatly £15 pounds a month to play thats 50pence for a day that 2 pence per hour

send me you bank details and il send you the 6 pence myself you tight arse!

stopped me complaining instantly.



Here's a math for you smart boy:

6 pence X 50k players = 3000 pounds.

Please be so kind as to send me this amount asap or let CCP know to start compensating players for this kind of stuff. I'm sick and tired of these delays each patch and expansion.

Also should i tell you how much is it goes to their pocket entirely for free when server is in downtime? Calculate electricity, bandwidth and all the rest. May be when they will be forced to compensate their customers for their own f***ups they will be much faster in server upkeep.

Edit: Last part.

Don't let them fly safe!
hellscure
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
#442 - 2012-01-24 14:17:21 UTC
Dezolf wrote:
20+ pages of whine.
Server comes online.
Not a single extra page.

would not count on that.
Elvis Preslie
NRDS Securities
#443 - 2012-01-24 14:17:30 UTC
Florestan Bronstein wrote:
Jimmy06 wrote:
Oh hey, btw boot.ini only effected Windows XP and Windows 2000 there is no "Run as Administrator" on it so good luck with that.

maybe you just have never used a non-admin account on Windows xp or 2000?

runas.exe must be an illusion on 2000 & xp

it can't possibly be real (the SHIFT+Right Click still works in Windows 7 btw, try it if you don't believe Microsoft)


exactly; i just showed the idiot in a thread way above.
Oxeu
Perkone
Caldari State
#444 - 2012-01-24 14:18:22 UTC
well it doesn't work here, install patch and look here game is corrupted, pray this repair tool works for once...
Jarnis McPieksu
Aliastra
Gallente Federation
#445 - 2012-01-24 14:18:52 UTC  |  Edited by: Jarnis McPieksu
Kurt Thyboe wrote:
You would think CCP would have some kind of deployment test server, that they use to test the deployment of patches, in order to avoid these embarrassing mistakes.


TQ is a fairly gigantic cluster. It would be very expensive to have an identical duplicate next to it for deployment testing and there could still be unexpected issues cropping up...

Obviously they test using SiSi and internal test servers but that's just not the same.

A clear drawback of the massive single shard system CCP runs, but most of the time it works anyway.

When it doesn't, we get nice long threads of bad posts, like this thread. So win either way.
Ct Nero
Narukami Federation
#446 - 2012-01-24 14:19:11 UTC
Lots of people complaining about the date format.

There's a simpler solution. Make the format a option, let people choose how they want their date displayed
Elder Thorn
Short Bus Buccaneers
SL0W CHILDREN AT PLAY
#447 - 2012-01-24 14:19:59 UTC  |  Edited by: Elder Thorn
i want my Terror Rage Assault Missiles back !

besides that: Good Patch :)


Edit:
hm ok.. chat windows minimised to that neocom bar suck... lets see what will be sucking next ;)
Exsosus
Brutor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#448 - 2012-01-24 14:20:00 UTC
And we're up and online again... Finally. Big smile
Sienna Baby
Sarum Strategic Consulting Firm
#449 - 2012-01-24 14:21:10 UTC
lol
Wee Mad Arthur
Damnation Loop
#450 - 2012-01-24 14:22:13 UTC
Lorelei Tsu
R. Danneskjold and Sons Repossessions
#451 - 2012-01-24 14:22:59 UTC
Florestan Bronstein wrote:
Lorelei Tsu wrote:

I guess they do this:

>>> /etc/init.d/eve-controller start
>>> tail -f /var/log/ccp/eve/controller.log
Exception here and there. SEGFAULT
> STRG+C
*Some yelling about code which has been pushed, and another which shouldn't.
*Dev X has been new and didn't know Y.
*excuses
*Team lead wishes he worked once with pros, urges some devs to hunt down the bug.
*Devs complain that there are no unit tests.
*Devs wish there was continuous integration.
*QA just roll eyes
*Management runs around the place. Cannot do a thing.
*QA know what unit tests are, but have no time or means for (or experience with?) high-level testing. No mockups of the client and such.
>>> git push this; git push that; git push wrong-place
>>> git pull origin master
>>> /etc/init.d/eve-controller zap start
>>> tail...
*back to start until some dev gets the correct line of code under his fingers

... and after we start playing they're puzzled how to merge the hotfix with the master branch.

that's not how MMC plugins work... Shocked

(EVE runs on Windows HPC Server 2008)


You're joking, right? You're going to tell me, that they use MSSQL Server on Windows 2000 instead of a cratfed-to-the-purpose distributed database? C'mon.

Or - stop. You're right! Blink

But it really doesn't matter what OS, if they used GIT or SVN or whatever. It's about the processes. Twisted

http://tsu.eve-connect.com/ — (in German)
Keatro
Aliastra
Gallente Federation
#452 - 2012-01-24 14:24:04 UTC
Alex Sinai wrote:
gunnergonk wrote:
the comphensation brigade are here again!

il tell you what i was once to when i complained.

ok so the server is down its been down for 2 hours, yes and an extra 25 minutes yesterday and the 30 minutes extra last wednesday. its approximatly £15 pounds a month to play thats 50pence for a day that 2 pence per hour

send me you bank details and il send you the 6 pence myself you tight arse!

stopped me complaining instantly.



Here's a math for you smart boy:

6 pence X 50k players = 3000 pounds.

Please be so kind as to send me this amount asap or let CCP know to start compensating players for this kind of stuff. I'm sick and tired of these delays each patch and expansion.

Also should i tell you how much is it goes to their pocket entirely for free when server is in downtime? Calculate electricity, bandwidth and all the rest. May be when they will be forced to compensate their customers for their own f***ups they will be much faster in server upkeep.

Edit: Last part.


It's 3000 pounds you math genius, go play wow if you're so dissatisfied.
Ct Nero
Narukami Federation
#453 - 2012-01-24 14:24:16 UTC
Quote:
Here's a math for you smart boy:

6 pence X 50k players = 6000 pounds.

Please be so kind as to send me this amount asap or let CCP know to start compensating players for this kind of stuff. I'm sick and tired of these delays each patch and expansion..


Sure they can start compensation you when they start charging for these free expansion.... sounds good?

so here's some maths

Blizzard charge £40 for a expansion when it comes out.
50k Player X £40 = 2million GBP - £6000 for delays would mean they would earn 1.994 Million profit.
jarlgeir
Brother Theo's Monastery
#454 - 2012-01-24 14:26:17 UTC
George Orwell's newspeak arrives in EVE:

"All Kinetic missiles will now have the name ‘Trauma’."

Can we please have a decent name for the Kinetic missile group?
Jarnis McPieksu
Aliastra
Gallente Federation
#455 - 2012-01-24 14:27:36 UTC
I'm pleased to find my POSes to be still online and happily chomping up fuel blocks, so +1 rep to CCP for that. Lol
Demeck
A N T H E M
#456 - 2012-01-24 14:28:39 UTC
aww man, gratz on the patch finally going up ,but that side bar..what is the point, the old one was better
Lorelei Tsu
R. Danneskjold and Sons Repossessions
#457 - 2012-01-24 14:29:51 UTC
Ct Nero wrote:
Lots of people complaining about the date format.

There's a simpler solution. Make the format a option, let people choose how they want their date displayed


Good approach. Been there, seen that. Just imagine I sent you a chatlog with "12/03/04 > ..." and you replied with "2012:05:06". You get the idea.

A single format might be something to get familiar with, but is less hassle in the long run. That's why smart people bothered with defining ISO 8601.

There's more such subtle things, btw, I am happy experienced people take care of for me (charsets, localization with all its exceptions, ...).

http://tsu.eve-connect.com/ — (in German)
Corin McNerd
Viziam
Amarr Empire
#458 - 2012-01-24 14:31:32 UTC
Demeck wrote:
aww man, gratz on the patch finally going up ,but that side bar..what is the point, the old one was better


and we waited Houres ;) nice work ccp let's hope for the next great, still not needet work and the included DT
Mischana Solano
Doomheim
#459 - 2012-01-24 14:35:58 UTC
52 MonocIes wrote:
Divine Eternity wrote:
Quote:
Improved readability of the skill queue finishing time text in the Training Queue window. It will now read "Completes on YYYY.DD.MM at HH:MM


What type of date format is that? Why don't you stick to ISO if you have an international game? I really recommend you to check the different standards for calendar dates, for beginners this is sufficient:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Calendar_date


^ This. Half of the world will get confused by your en-US date formatting.



Please note, that the "normal" US/EN citizen, is using AM/PM, whereas the mititary, are using standard UTC...
So much for the usability and comprehension of said ISO TC.

I agree to the DD/MM/YY(YY) standard.
Day changes daily, month, monthly, and year, yearly... Want to see the biggest change first...
Taipion
Adeptus Petrous
#460 - 2012-01-24 14:36:36 UTC
jarlgeir wrote:
George Orwell's newspeak arrives in EVE:

"All Kinetic missiles will now have the name ‘Trauma’."

Can we please have a decent name for the Kinetic missile group?


/SIGNED

The new NAMING is BULLSHIT, again, something not thought through, not only it messes up everything, the names are picked random at best,

BULLSHIT!

...as usual -.-