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[May] CONCORD Aerospace Promotional Ships

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Alberic Nydorm
Dreddit
Test Alliance Please Ignore
#161 - 2017-04-23 21:21:29 UTC
Really like the design of the new ships, they look awesome. Can't wait till I can get my hands on them. Don't think it will leave the station though!
Lt Shard
Team Pizza
Good at this Game
#162 - 2017-04-25 20:06:38 UTC
"Their DPS isn't anything special "

This is an understatement.

Maybe bump it up a touch, like bonuses from 5% to 7.5%
Frostys Virpio
State War Academy
Caldari State
#163 - 2017-04-26 15:01:53 UTC
Lt Shard wrote:
"Their DPS isn't anything special "

This is an understatement.

Maybe bump it up a touch, like bonuses from 5% to 7.5%


According to Fozzie, they are meant to be underpowered. He never precised at what sec status they should feel underpowered but they are supposed to.
Malon Kreed
Hold Cloaks
#164 - 2017-04-27 07:03:40 UTC
Loving the design of the Frigate and Cruiser. It's like a Mordu's Legion Designer suddenly realized there was more than 2 dimensions.
Iam Widdershins
Project Nemesis
#165 - 2017-04-27 21:35:20 UTC
Ci'Fera wrote:
Mina Sebiestar wrote:
[quote=Ci'Fera]
A tad more dps is my guess.


I would think 5% damage would put out the same as 5%rate of fire?


RoF does give more DPS, since it is a subtractive bonus. The main reason here, however, is almost definitely to avoid overbuffing the alpha-strike on artillery fits.

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Lt Shard
Team Pizza
Good at this Game
#166 - 2017-04-28 06:09:11 UTC
Frostys Virpio wrote:
Lt Shard wrote:
"Their DPS isn't anything special "

This is an understatement.

Maybe bump it up a touch, like bonuses from 5% to 7.5%


According to Fozzie, they are meant to be underpowered. He never precised at what sec status they should feel underpowered but they are supposed to.


there is underpowered and then there is useless
Grandpa Cholo
Federal Navy Academy
Gallente Federation
#167 - 2017-05-09 14:53:31 UTC
Oh hai, you've been playing the game for years but can't afford to go to Fanfest? Well here's a great big **** you! Only those people who have excessive money can have this new toy!

Thanks CCP.
badside
Dauphin Enterprises Inc.
#168 - 2017-05-11 19:37:34 UTC
I bought a bunch of the Pacifier CSM shuttles, they also got a redesign since they were based on the pacifier frigate. You fly a cool looking ship without being a target or spending a fortune for a useless ship.
Andrew Indy
Cleaning Crew
#169 - 2017-05-12 03:25:30 UTC
Grandpa Cholo wrote:
Oh hai, you've been playing the game for years but can't afford to go to Fanfest? Well here's a great big **** you! Only those people who have excessive money can have this new toy!

Thanks CCP.


They did say that they would open them up later, so you just have to be patient .

Also they will be on the market as soon as they are released. a few bil ISK is a lot less than a Fanfest ticket + travel ect.
DaReaper
Net 7
Cannon.Fodder
#170 - 2017-05-18 00:30:37 UTC
So.. when are you releasing them? Cause its been a bit and i have not seen an update

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Milostiev
Beyond Divinity Inc
Shadow Cartel
#171 - 2017-05-19 05:35:52 UTC
Malon Kreed wrote:
Loving the design of the Frigate and Cruiser. It's like a Mordu's Legion Designer suddenly realized there was more than 2 dimensions.


And then went overboard on the Oz axis. :P
Aeryn Maricadie
Federal Navy Academy
Gallente Federation
#172 - 2017-06-19 06:31:11 UTC
Sorry but I think the cruiser looks like it has a giant dong.
Sobaan Tali
Caldari Quick Reaction Force
#173 - 2017-06-19 15:09:01 UTC
I kind of wish the two sec status buffs actually had better synergy without feeling somewhat mutually exclusive. Sucks that the damage sucks, too, but that's to be expected I guess. Pretty gimmicky all the same. Even the EWAR bonuses are well short of the Arazu and Rapier.

My hat is off for the aesthetics, though. They did an amazing job on the visual designs. Odd and somewhat disappointing, though, that there's in fact no red and blue flashing lights to speak of on them that I saw. Now, if only there were...police sirens!

"Tomahawks?"

"----in' A, right?"

"Trouble is, those things cost like a million and a half each."

"----, you pay me half that and I'll hump in some c4 and blow the ---- out of it my own damn self."
Sobaan Tali
Caldari Quick Reaction Force
#174 - 2017-06-19 15:09:47 UTC  |  Edited by: Sobaan Tali
Aeryn Maricadie wrote:
Sorry but I think the cruiser looks like it has a giant dong.


Wait till you see an Enforcer enter and exit warp! Trust me, you'll have a chuckle.

"Tomahawks?"

"----in' A, right?"

"Trouble is, those things cost like a million and a half each."

"----, you pay me half that and I'll hump in some c4 and blow the ---- out of it my own damn self."
Duo Roman
The Dark Space Initiative
Scary Wormhole People
#175 - 2017-06-20 16:44:12 UTC
For a ship that has nice bonus to active tanking, the Pacifier cap recharge rate is rather small. Please increase cap size or reduce cap regarge time so we can actually use this bonus without limiting even more the damage output.

Thanks!
Mina Sebiestar
Minmatar Inner Space Conglomerate
#176 - 2017-07-03 03:02:47 UTC
Quote:
5% ROF bonus is half of what tempest fleet issue have TFI also have 5% DMG bonus and is still bottom feeder in terms of dps from minmatar battleships lineup both have 6 gun slots.

Include no drone bay and its new concord Marshal for ya so you will struggle to break 600 dps with large artys

Cruise Marshal on the other hand will brake 1000dps and torp marshall will be viable pushing 1500-1600 dps since 7/7 low mid ratio will allow pretty sick application and range.

Perfectly balanced nothing to see here.


Any of you CCP professionals care to comment on 400 and up damage difference in between minmatar / caldari weapon system here not counting projection or application...that would be swell from you?

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Aeryn Maricadie
Federal Navy Academy
Gallente Federation
#177 - 2017-07-04 17:28:22 UTC
Mina Sebiestar wrote:
Quote:
5% ROF bonus is half of what tempest fleet issue have TFI also have 5% DMG bonus and is still bottom feeder in terms of dps from minmatar battleships lineup both have 6 gun slots.

Include no drone bay and its new concord Marshal for ya so you will struggle to break 600 dps with large artys

Cruise Marshal on the other hand will brake 1000dps and torp marshall will be viable pushing 1500-1600 dps since 7/7 low mid ratio will allow pretty sick application and range.

Perfectly balanced nothing to see here.


Any of you CCP professionals care to comment on 400 and up damage difference in between minmatar / caldari weapon system here not counting projection or application...that would be swell from you?

Artillery is about alpha strike not DPS, that's why its king of fleet comps, but try and use it to solo DPS someone you are gonna have a bad time. If they Buff artillery too much it will break fleet engagements.
Mina Sebiestar
Minmatar Inner Space Conglomerate
#178 - 2017-07-05 01:09:08 UTC  |  Edited by: Mina Sebiestar
Aeryn Maricadie wrote:
Mina Sebiestar wrote:
Quote:
5% ROF bonus is half of what tempest fleet issue have TFI also have 5% DMG bonus and is still bottom feeder in terms of dps from minmatar battleships lineup both have 6 gun slots.

Include no drone bay and its new concord Marshal for ya so you will struggle to break 600 dps with large artys

Cruise Marshal on the other hand will brake 1000dps and torp marshall will be viable pushing 1500-1600 dps since 7/7 low mid ratio will allow pretty sick application and range.

Perfectly balanced nothing to see here.


Any of you CCP professionals care to comment on 400 and up damage difference in between minmatar / caldari weapon system here not counting projection or application...that would be swell from you?

Artillery is about alpha strike not DPS, that's why its king of fleet comps, but try and use it to solo DPS someone you are gonna have a bad time. If they Buff artillery too much it will break fleet engagements.


You are completely missing the point

Caldari Marshal is basically raven without drones dps wise

Minmatar Marshall is HALF of tempest without drones dps wise

Alpha strike has nothing to do with it but so you just don't come back with it Marshall have significant lower alpha strike than any minmatar ship using same weaponry while having around 40% less dps than caldari version so it have nothing going for it and CCP would know the best why is that ok and their answer would be the most appreciated one,,,,

Because i am pretty sure if caldari marshall was doing 600dps it would be corrected ASAP.




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Gustav Mannfred
Summer of Mumuit
Remember Mumuit
#179 - 2017-07-30 16:30:51 UTC
Would it be possible to open up this thread on the new forums?

I know, that the Pacifier and Enforcer have already been released, but the marshal hasn't. After next Thursday it won't be possible anymore to provide feedback anymore, because this forum shuts down.

i'm REALY miss the old stuff. 

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