Market Discussions

Anyone who doesn't read C&P can read that tale of hilarity here. Potted summary: you can't manufacture and sell to individual members of an alliance the same ships the alliance gives them for free, who knew?

Bit of a paper tiger, this; when you say "we" that's not strictly accurate. Your membership is down from the giddy heights of "two" it has reached in the past.

Cute begging letter, though.

Even putting aside your history, why should I give you anything? You just say "if you donate a signifcant sum" while making absolutely no attempt to define that. For all I know you'll take my donation and then claim that it wasn't subjectively significant. Furthermore, the "benefits" you offer are a complete joke. Unless you're producing capitals (which you're almost certainly not if an 80mil ISK loss sends you "reeling") there's really no point in getting advance access to stuff that I could easily buy in a trade hub. You also say I'll be a "low priority" target in your one-man fleet operations. Does that mean you'll just shoot me last if I'm on field?

0/10, not sure if scam or just bad idea.

I've been put through Hell so far and I'm still smiling because I will not break at what EVE has to throw at me, regardless even if an entire alliance comes to hang me. Believe it or not, the purpose of that thread was to discourage active horde recruitment and membership while smoking out any potential hordeling alts due to my poor memory, as I currently have a list of corpses I want to add to my trophy collection. Summarily for that, I will stand by conviction and let it be known where my allegiances stand, because I won't for the suffering of others at the hands of a despotic oligarchy influenced by cronyism but thats a personal aspect outside of my business.

I simply offer a perk for donating to my organization that will later on reward those who did so, and present the chance to reap the benefits of their support. The funding earned through this method will be used to expand my current infrastructure, acquire the nessecary assets, and commit to more active recruitment of members. I could possibly debate that your average consumer purchases things with no value, but time has value to leave it simply at that.

I am asking humbly to my fellow entrepeneurs and traders to help support my aspiration, because I returned to a world that has changed from what it was seven years ago, and in the process I've made mistakes: I've stood up to CODE bullies by enduring their carebear fascism, flown all the way to the cloud ring in search of new beginning, joined a dysfunctional alliance, snared a TEST hurricane in Fac Warfare space then joined said Shortbus alliance, and insulted a French Ganker by saying a special needs child was more mentally and physically competent than him netting the bounty I currently possess. Of course like anyone, I'm learning and relearning aspects of this game both old and new so a helping hand to an Atlas struggling to rise on his knees.

The early stages of plan entail the acquisition of infrastructure and logistic points on major trade routes, namely offices in production facilities and accomodating stations that meet our needs as a Military-Industrial company. Phase 1 is evaluation of various regions for operations, determing viability of resources, security, and trade, essentially staging locations; Phase 2 is the establishmemt of offices in stations and facilities to operate from in said regions; Phase 3 begins the acquisition of minerals and resources for producing our staple of affordable hardware; Phase 4 is the transit of our wares to major trade hubs and the sale of them. I don't intend to be a one man corp forever as there is money to be made working for and with me, especially with how I do business, sure some may not like how do it but I am a man who intends to accomplish his goals regardless of obstacles and ensure those who help obtain them are treated well.

At the moment, I'm working small: I dredge ores hoping for some profit, do nullsec missions, and give newbies out small loans with 10% interest to earn some small capital alongside developing future business relationships with my current clientele. I currently work with a small association of industrialist who possess similar goals, and might form alliance with them in the near future if I commit to my current goal. I'm also working with the university to improve my current knowledge base so im improving

Hell, I'll even take a small loan from these known loan jockies just so i can either get a line of Battleships or cruisers up and running, or enough to plex my ars for another month to train my way into the skills for a mining barge so I can tap into rare ores along with the skill to reprocess them at max efficiency.

Looking at your killboard you could put them at high-priority and it still would not make one difference.Also begging on the forums is not allowed , this is begging.

Hey you just bumped it .....