Crime & Punishment

Dom what does it matter, you had a fight with Yauros, then with Kaely, you did not see me come and make comments, I just let you get on with it, seems like you all had a good time clearing things out of your systems and now you're good.

Ima Wetyou is running out of steam, as is Mike the rabid Gerbi, even his incredible desire for popcorn, which certainly and massively overshadows his ability at PvP.

Kaely came to talk and left in good shape, I rather like Kaely, I like you too, you have big hairy ones going out in that Vargur, not like wimps such as Ima WetYou and Galaxy Plughole who go out in Catalysts, and Mike the Gerbil who does not go out at all...

Damn who stole my popcorn?

You must hate yourself much when you fail to adapt.

You do war decs, you don't do blanket decs, that's fine. CODE also do miner ganking which again is fine now that people have options in terms of ships and fits. Freighter ganking is stale due to the mechanic used to hold the target, for me it is against the very ethos of Eve, don't you get this, it is supposed to be a hard game and yet you have such a lame mechanic that creates boring stale game play with no real counter. How many times do I have to point that out. A friend of mine called it freighter mining and he was spot on.

It is seriously poor content period. And that is me crying or whining, nope, I am pointing out that it is rubbish content, this is not what I think Eve should be. No whining no crying, just my opinion. Jump through a gate, get bumped for an hour , in comes gank fleet bang blown up and podded, only way to deal with it is dock up and log off and try to move when there is not a Macherial at each choke point. Wonderful stuff, not...

When I first decided to get involved I was concerned about the impact on hisec in terms of the market, especially after CCP had made null sec so much more profitable, however as you guys sell what you loot into the market and the system is still very resilient even with the big reduction in players I came to the conclusion that there was no real impact, in any case maybe having no central market hub would be a good thing.

Furthermore the change to sov to the new system made smaller groups more viable especially those in different TZ which suited my time to play, that meant that I could join an alliance that was active when I wanted to play and not be stuck late at night with an upset wife as every thing ended up in late EU / US TZ, boring... I could now go to null sec and be active in full fleet fights in the period I wanted to play.

And yet to you CODE players that is me running away, from what, boredom, towards fun and good battles. I have had a blast since I went to null sec, been fighting PL, did my first dread bomb, marvellous, sorry but CODE and that stale boring play does not compare at all.

Then CODE start going on about null sec on your website and it is the point of view of those people who were lording it around on other people during Dominion and easy travel across the whole damn map. Well of course they don't like it now, and yet more supers are dying now than ever before.

The simple fact is that CODE is absoltely naff content which is little more than mining freighters, deal with it!

I'm not sure what the phrase "fill my boots" means, but if I ever find a topic I think EvE's playerbase would get some benefit from my limited experience on, I will. :-D

Also, I hope you're using "cuck" iromically... Those MRA types really kill their narrative by over-using it.

Go bump and gank a non afk freighter
Tell me how "easy mode" it is

Tia

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ty for yours btw

So your only response is that bumping a freighter is difficult, it is not that difficult, you should try counter bumping a Macherial, it is many times more difficult.

We do bump people away from gates and citadels who are in combat ships, that is more difficult, but the main difference is that we are not protected by CONCORD and cannot do it for a long long time because help will turn up and blow us up.

As I said, bumping in hisec is stale and pathetic.

Freighter mining is just low risk high reward, the most profitable in the game and it is in hisec where the main tool is protected by CONCORD and as a result the game play is stale, methodical and boring.

Also I have noted that Ima Wetyou, Galaxy Plughole and the popcorn loving Rabid Gerbil have all run away screaming from the facts as always.

You have repeatedly shown that when challenged on one of your unreflected simple opinions you will deliberately derail the conversation and devolve into a gibbering troll.

So cry some more about how "bored" you where with the bumping mechanic when in reality you where just too unimaginative to use the gazillions of tools EVE provides to have any impact. It's completely hilarious

I gank miners because I actually have fun doing it. You and your lot played AG because ... it was boring... did not work.. had no clue what to even do.. because you think you are the "good guys".. what? What is the reason you played AG? Tell me.

Triggered...

Actually I have no issue with your miner ganking at all, but you are too dumb to realise that, my focus is on the freighter ganking.

Have you ever seen me go and blow up any miner gankers outside of the area in which I was actually mining, the answer is no. I see that as people having to protect themselves in that system or constellation. Let me repeat it, there is no issue with miner ganking as people have choices in terms of ships that tank or have yield, and that goes for the fitting too.

This is why you are such a confused person and just go into senseless insults.


I told you in this thread why I opposed freighter ganking, and then why I then decided not to continue, it was because initially I thought you would destabilise the market, then I realised that as you sold the loot it did not matter. Simple as that. Well when AG were blowing up freighter wrecks you lot had no clue what to do, was funny as hell watching you be in the same situation as your prey.

The white knight insult, lol, vested interest, I did not want to see the market destabilised, purely that, and when I realised that it was not having an affect, voila!!!!

Calm down ganker, you are getting a bit upset...

Of course it was always pirating, don't try to project stupidity onto me, however at the time you started to do it, it was when CCP had given bonuses to null sec manufacturing and I took that as being a campaign to destroy the hisec markets by Miniluv and CODE as well as the pirating side of things. I also saw it as a campaign to destroy hisec manufacturers, but they turned out to be a lot more resilient then I expected, mainly because they are in the main so damn rich. You may have impacted haulers and some have left the game, but they don't matter.

When I saw that you had no impact on the market I came to the conclusion it was not worth my time opposing and doing so was only for fun, to oppose people getting rich with low risk and high reward. So when CCP killed the freighter wreck ganking it was pretty obvious to me that this would have more impact on the market and they acted. It was quite funny in an ironic way that the most successful AG action was doing more damage to what I wanted to protect, delicious irony that...

But I can still sit there and criticise the lameness of the mechanics and point out that it is actually fairly easy to do, bumping and scooping through DST's.

I have no issue with your miner ganking with the ships as they are, the balance is fine.

Again you see what you want to see and try to turn it into an insult, my only error was to think that this mattered more than it actually does.

Herzog pointed it out in this thread above, we talked to quite a few industrial players while doing this and the only people that it mattered to was the guy doing hauling for ISK, the real industrialists had no issues as they factored it into their costs. So after talking to quite a few of them the penny dropped, you were not going to do jack to them.

In other words your ganking if aimed to damage the market is as futile as our trying to prevent them, do you get it...