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Another one who don't understand how PLEX work...

I would love to have watched you jumping to these conclusions. Mad as a box of frogs matey.

Just for you know CCP - further nerfing cariers and supers and making them less effective on anomalies will make people to drop them as a source of income. Ths will remove a content for smalgangs and hotdroppers because very little amount of people risks such expensive ships for PvP. So if you wanna make a change make a new anomalies which still will make players to undock their shiny ships otherwise the lack of content cancer will continue spreading across New Eden. Same with the rorqs - you made a good decision bringing them to the ore sites but now you doing all to make them replaced by multiboxing mining barges and exhumers. Stop penalizing normal players and support afk multiboxers

This will make carriers an supers sit in docks. Not sure if this is what you want.

Like others pointed it will hurt droppers and hunters the most. Because you know - killing afktar is not as fun as killing carrier.....

So yes, you WILL nerf PvPers too.

Oh! Why not make persistent pirate fleets gain aggro on any capital that rats anything from their faction, the more expensive the rat, the more aggro the cap-pilot gains on all their capitals, this aggro is only reduced when the pilot is killed while in a capital. These persistent pirate fleets use the new special AI system to custom fit for tackling and podding their target and will track the systems the pilot gets killboards or killboarded in. The bigger the "aggro bounty" a pilot's capitals have, the bigger the headhunter fleet is; if they have enough aggro from more than one pirate faction (i.e. each faction's aggro goes past a certain threshold, individually) then you'll see pirate alliance fleets hunting these highly active capital ratters. And yeah, I suppose they'd draw aggro from CONCORD if they jump in through a gate or attack anything, including their mark.

CCP can adjust the aggro and response threshold weights, I'd assume the CONCORD mechanics already have code like this, to suit their current taste on how much ratting capitals should or shouldn't do.


ED: Could also make it so anomalies don't spawn, they're built up over time, but that would mean there wouldn't be as many which would severely dampen income opportunities. I was thinking the same thing could be implemented with belts, requiring NPC miners in empire space to perform moon mining to create all new belts once the feature is implemented, but again, that would all but eliminate typical income and mineral opportunities for everyone but the highly active players willing to hunt these things down. However, it would definitely clamp down the economy- might stall it out though.

I'm a simulationist at heart, it's not a serious theoretical mechanic like the upper half of the post, I just dislike "spawns" of any sort- I'd be much happier if NPC had to mine and manufacture all their ships just like players.

The validity of that statement relies on your assumption of what is and is not functional, or rather what function is most desirable. Since this is, I've been told, a highly detailed economics simulator (in space, for fun and imaginary profit), one would be led to assume that the quality of the simulation is actually fairly important. And it doesn't stop people using carriers and supers, it just means using them leaves an escalating paper trail, I'm more thinking about the kind of content having pirates following a high-end player's caps around would entail than the functionality of your bland ratting mechanics.

Your ship will always die at some point, that's the advice everyone keeps giving me, give somebody enough incentive and they will break your stuff for whatever reason- is this a goon rhetoric or does everyone get sensitive when you talk about giving NPCs goals that might include chasing you down and giving you a taste of the medicine you regularly dish out?

Except that's inherently wrong and pig-headed for an analysis of what I proposed. First, aggro only increases when the player cap-rats; second, each pirates faction tracks separately; third, the fleet is a game-asset, not a spawner, and must physically find the player based on the killboards their capitals leave and then travel to them AND THEN engage them; fourth, the only drawback is you don't get a bounty (or not as big a bounty and you still get loot) and may or may not accrue further faction aggro; fifth and finally, this isn't some "aha, a capital, sick 'em, boys" aggro, it's more like an UnSecurity Rating combined with a faction standing tracker. By the time you 1) amass enough aggro on your caps and 2) are actually tracked down, tackled, and killed it's more than likely you'll have paid your ship's worth off several times over unless CCP weights things like a jerk (which wouldn't be a surprise given the last week or so).

And your major gripe that breaks the idea is that if a cap-ratter keeps cap-ratting like they're a pigeon in a Skinner Box eventually all unholy hell of a pirate coalition fleet will gank them once, maybe twice. OOO~OO~OOH, yes, I'll go sit in the 'bad idea corner' now.


Same topic, I just generalised a potential solution to all capitals.

Instead of putting restrictions on capsuleers what CCP should do is provide more content. The capsuleers active in Supercarrier ratting are at the top of the(ir) game, and have worked hard for years (literally!) to get to where they are. In that perspective it shouuld be obvious CCP should deliver something of better, shall we say, quality... than a simple nerf and slap in the face.

So here's my idea about adding content:
So what if we had anomalies tailor made for capital ships. Think 'noobship acceleration gate' but the complete opposite... get it? Ok I'll elaborate. So... we have these annoying capsuleers who are filthy spacerich and they get the silly idea to spend their excessive isk on these stupendously huge spaceships. So what's so good about them? Oh, absolutely nothing! You'll just make yourself the biggest target in the system. Literally hundreds of people will scan down whatever number of Wormhole connections necessary to get to you and provide you the finest content isk can buy. That's how nice the EvE capsuleer community is, every ship comes with a lifetime content guarantee, end of lifetime that is.

Oh, but that was not the content we were intending to talk about here. Let's get back on topic. So, tailor made anomalies for Capital Ships? How do we approach that?

Here's my idea:
Introduce a new category of anomalies that only spawn in nullsec. Let's trust CCP and their trusec magic on this one if you will. Ok maybe not, whatever. Either way, these anomalies would be scannable through the use of special probes, PROBES not robes, leave your special robes in the closet for this one... alternatively a specialized scanning skill using combat PROBES. Once scanned down, the anomaly will reveal itself to be something similar but not identical to a wormhole. It's somethings strangely, different. So, only a Recon class T2 Cruiser is capable of getting close to this anomaly, and then only when cloaked.

Enter the site:
Inside, the Recon ship will be able to observe and assess the activities by the strong NPC (name your faction) presence. Capital ship-size entities? Yes totally, or at least a decent probability to encounter one, or more, in a site like this. This site is the motherload, the fully developed hive mentioned in the drone 10/10s description clearly stating that this is not a "fully developed hive".

Now here's the trick
In this type of site, a cyno beacon can be activated and, if capital ships are at the entrance to the anomaly (within rangeof it) they can jump into the site. This site could run something like a 10/10 with possible escalations, different routes etc but would be strictly limited to Capital size ships. Possibly a single Capital ship could solo it, but imho rather not. Teamwork should be encouraged is my idea. The fun starts when you get a escalation and a cyno beacon appears on your ship sensors that you do not know where it leads to. This new site would be connected to a different entry point, in a completely different system. So capsuleers from other groups could find the entry point to the site you are in, and drop by to help bring you the very content you so desire! Imagine that! So what can possibly go wrong?

So, for however long the escalation chain goes, along the whole chain of sites any one of the entry points can become a exit point with the help of a Recon class T2 Cruiser lighting a Cyno field next to it. So that all capsuleer groups participating can exit at their convenience. Beware though, for exiting this type of anomaly will cause disturbingly high jump fatigue, or at the very least a polarization timer significant enough to prevent ships from entering/exiting engagements at will.

Pros
- Content content & more content! Did I mention content? Content for everyone! Surprise parties!!! YOU are the special guest for this party and we want to bring it to you!
- CCP can modulate rewards without tampering with the PvP capabilities of already established ships and modules. It also opens up ways to introduce new items and of course, to achieve the so-desired (by CCP most notably) Capital ship attrition rates.

Ok, so what are the cons?
CCP actually has to pull something off rather than pull out (the nerf bat...) this often takes time. Ehhh, yeah... This is also risk vs reward though (are you kidding me?!?) but may well be worth it!!! Like with the Moon Mining Arrays, so patience is advised. So the technicals has to be worked out, but having Capital class anoms off the local nodes may give the room needed to solve those issues.

So... yeah this is not my main char. I'm a returning player of 2003-2008ish vintage, and by my alts CCP shall know me. I've been flying Motherships aka Supercarriers since they were introduced to the game. Life happened, I had kids and then life happened again and I'm back. So there you go, CCP are just too awesome like that and deserve cred for it. Hey, my ship(s) were still here when I came around to log back on, so there's that.

Anyway, here's for hoping this catches on and you find my idea worth pondering.

Cheers!

No I did not post this sober, hey it's fri.. it was friday! I swear!