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Ima Wreckyou
The Conference Elite
Safety.
#141 - 2017-06-15 08:20:36 UTC
The only thing I get from Dracs posts is that the current AG strategy is now to try to drown us with their tears.

Evil RatKid
Dracvlad
Taishi Combine
Astral Alliance
#142 - 2017-06-15 08:30:22 UTC
Ima Wreckyou wrote:
The only thing I get from Dracs posts is that the current AG strategy is now to try to drown us with their tears.


I am beginning to think you and Mike the unfunny gerbil are one and the same.

When the going gets tough the Gankers get their CSM rep to change mechanics in their favour.

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Clockwork Robot
Science and Trade Institute
Caldari State
#143 - 2017-06-15 10:13:07 UTC
Sometimes I pretend to not care about the people I literally am unable to stop discussing.

Sometimes, I pretend that it's the other guy who has some sort of moral deficiency.

Then I post on the forums.
Saeger1737
Habitual Euthanasia
Pandemic Legion
#144 - 2017-06-15 10:30:42 UTC
Dracvlad wrote:
Saeger1737 wrote:
Dracvlad wrote:
Saeger1737 wrote:
How long does it take to kill a freighter? Like a minute place an alt on their fleet cloaked up and warp your battleship there warp the alt off before the bombing begins.... Should take out enough of their Dps before Concord kills the rest, then rep the freighter and send him on his way. I've literally Merced the last 6 years and combat is what I do. And there's only letters in this post not hot air.


22 seconds is what they have to kill it in due to CONCORD.

Note that they are mostly -10 so have to keep moving due to faction police.

I know you know your stuff as a merc, that goes without saying, but would you burn a spy for that? Because you will have to drop fleet to warp your smart bomber in and they will notice, then you have the warp in and so on in terms of time, nah ain't going to work in practice. A number of people looked at smart bombing as one approach but its not really that great in most cases, we wanted to use it to kill the torps.

There are a number of things to do, one good one is shoot the freighter with a noob ship as they set up for the gank fleet to warp in, so pre-loads CONCORD. The bump the freighter and warp to safe trick also works, repping the target works, also ECM'ing their DPS works but they all fitted sebos, bumping out of optimal worked so they switched to SB's. They know their stuff and adjust very well.

Pull concord to the spot with suicide ibis's use an alt to put Concord on grid and cut the time down.


I was going to do this with a specifically trained up alpha account, but I moved on from hisec. Actually I went back to null more like..., as a footnote I made a lot of ISK in hisec just with PI and mining Mex, the last month or two was especially easy with two Orca's, which I found to be the perfect mining ship while writing.

So then why the whining and complaining? Go whine in general discussion no one here cares.

MERC WITH A MOUTH, Send me DPS and my fleet will double it back! Special offer!
Dracvlad
Taishi Combine
Astral Alliance
#145 - 2017-06-15 10:37:25 UTC  |  Edited by: Dracvlad
Saeger1737 wrote:
So then why the whining and complaining? Go whine in general discussion no one here cares.


Woof woof..., this is a thread about the conflict between AG and gankers, started by an AG player, you are a failed Merc who currently sits in a station while in a NPC corp, most likely posting as an Alpha toon, I could ask you why are you posting in this thread when you obviously have no clue on ganking counter play such as your smart bombing suggestion which on the face of it appears reasonable, but in practice is not going to work. I can bark too Cool

When the going gets tough the Gankers get their CSM rep to change mechanics in their favour.

Blocked: Teckos Pech, Sonya Corvinus, baltec1, Shae Tadaruwa, Wander Prian, Daichi Yamato, Jonah Gravenstein, Merin Ryskin, Linus Gorp
Galaxy Pig
New Order Logistics
CODE.
#146 - 2017-06-16 16:59:58 UTC
Hey, you guys 'member when Dracvlad admitted defeat and left New Highsec with his tail between his legs?

I 'member...

Highsec is owned by players now. Systems 0.5-1.0 are New Order Territory. All miners and other residents of Highsec must obey The Code. Mining without a permit is dangerous and harmful to the EVE community. See www.MinerBumping.com
Kaely Tanniss
Black Lotus Society.
#147 - 2017-06-16 17:07:23 UTC
Galaxy Pig wrote:
Hey, you guys 'member when Dracvlad admitted defeat and left New Highsec with his tail between his legs?

I 'member...


Pepperidge Farms remembers too...Blink

If I had a nickel for every time someone said women don't play eve, I'd have a bag of nickels to whack the next person who said it..
Vipsan Agrippa
Machine Gun Coitus
#148 - 2017-06-16 17:19:52 UTC
Remember when Codies were relevant 18 short months ago, on the Goonie isk spigot ganking freighters by the quarter hour or more.

Now they are a hapless joke, a shadow of their former selves. Ugh


Ah the memories. Roll










SmileSmileSmile
  • Fk Bob Praise Kek! -

They will throw them into the blazing furnace, where there will be weeping and gnashing of teeth.

Alliances will rise and fall, but one constant in Eve is the smouldering dumpster that is C & P.

(Bob's a cuck)
Galaxy Pig
New Order Logistics
CODE.
#149 - 2017-06-16 17:42:48 UTC
Yeah, things have really gone down hill since the goons cut off our funding, then James 315 got permabanned and the alliance got sold... Yeah, CODE. is dead now....

Highsec is owned by players now. Systems 0.5-1.0 are New Order Territory. All miners and other residents of Highsec must obey The Code. Mining without a permit is dangerous and harmful to the EVE community. See www.MinerBumping.com
Vipsan Agrippa
Machine Gun Coitus
#150 - 2017-06-16 17:44:35 UTC
If you say so...Shocked
  • Fk Bob Praise Kek! -

They will throw them into the blazing furnace, where there will be weeping and gnashing of teeth.

Alliances will rise and fall, but one constant in Eve is the smouldering dumpster that is C & P.

(Bob's a cuck)
Galaxy Pig
New Order Logistics
CODE.
#151 - 2017-06-16 17:48:13 UTC
Tell your friends.

Highsec is owned by players now. Systems 0.5-1.0 are New Order Territory. All miners and other residents of Highsec must obey The Code. Mining without a permit is dangerous and harmful to the EVE community. See www.MinerBumping.com
Dracvlad
Taishi Combine
Astral Alliance
#152 - 2017-06-16 21:16:48 UTC  |  Edited by: Dracvlad
Galaxy Pig wrote:
Hey, you guys 'member when Dracvlad admitted defeat and left New Highsec with his tail between his legs?

I 'member...


So do I, I realised that you lot were not having a real impact on the market as you were selling stuff back into the market, I analysed all your advantages which I detailed here and noted that the gankers were able to get the EHP of wrecks changed via their contacts in the CSM and at CCP as soon as the AG started to blow them up. Conclusion being that it was an unbalanced war to fight, the options were in the main just defensive in terms of repping and trying to defend a stacked up target due to bumping with such support was totally not fun.

I saw the opportunity for fun, and while you have been ganking retrievers and coveters I have been in some major fleet fights and small gangs against PL, in fact my KB is full of PL kills and I was in a cap fight where we beat PL. In affect I found the possibility for much more fun in 0.0 now that Fozzie sov had settled down and I joined an AU TZ alliance run by a very very good FC.

So if that is running away with my tail between my legs then I have to grin a bit. But please show me any kill on any of my toons by CODE, by the way that Confessor in Uedama was not me, I ran away with zero loss to CODE, zilch, not a single loss, so is that running away with my tail between my legs. Seems like withdrawing having a ton of kills on CODE, none on me with lots of freighters saved and not a single loss to you, my tail is well between my legs mate, delusion is a big thing with you lot... Cool

When the going gets tough the Gankers get their CSM rep to change mechanics in their favour.

Blocked: Teckos Pech, Sonya Corvinus, baltec1, Shae Tadaruwa, Wander Prian, Daichi Yamato, Jonah Gravenstein, Merin Ryskin, Linus Gorp
Super Perforator
New Order Logistics
CODE.
#153 - 2017-06-16 21:38:41 UTC
Dracvlad wrote:
I ran away with zero loss to CODE, zilch, not a single loss


Screenshot or it didn't happen.

https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=5610165#post5610165

Praise James!
Qayos Sturmez
Pator Tech School
Minmatar Republic
#154 - 2017-06-16 21:47:19 UTC
Super Perforator wrote:
Dracvlad wrote:
I ran away with zero loss to CODE, zilch, not a single loss


Screenshot or it didn't happen.


Isn't that what the zkillboard is for?
Super Perforator
New Order Logistics
CODE.
#155 - 2017-06-16 22:11:20 UTC
Qayos Sturmez wrote:
Super Perforator wrote:
Dracvlad wrote:
I ran away with zero loss to CODE, zilch, not a single loss


Screenshot or it didn't happen.


Isn't that what the zkillboard is for?


Somehow not all kills make it there.

https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=5610165#post5610165

Praise James!
Galaxy Pig
New Order Logistics
CODE.
#156 - 2017-06-16 22:16:33 UTC
Lmao, it's just SOOOOOOOOO unfair, isn't it Drac? :D

It's okay, man. You did your best, but ultimately gave up (like everyone who ever opposed the New Order).

Highsec is owned by players now. Systems 0.5-1.0 are New Order Territory. All miners and other residents of Highsec must obey The Code. Mining without a permit is dangerous and harmful to the EVE community. See www.MinerBumping.com
Aaaarrgg
Epic Ganking Time
CODE.
#157 - 2017-06-16 23:02:16 UTC
Dracvlad wrote:
Galaxy Pig wrote:
Hey, you guys 'member when Dracvlad admitted defeat and left New Highsec with his tail between his legs?

I 'member...


So do I, I realised that you lot were not having a real impact on the market as you were selling stuff back into the market,

not sure what you mean here

I analysed all your advantages which I detailed here and noted that the gankers were able to get the EHP of wrecks changed via their contacts in the CSM and at CCP as soon as the AG starting to blow them up.

I am fairly certain I am not a GM or CSM and it as been shown that wreck EHP changes had nothing to do with highsec or ag IN Case that was not clear we had nothing to do with those changes :) but dream on

Conclusion being that it was an unbalanced war to fight, the options were in the main just defensive in terms of repping and trying to defend a stacked up target due to bumping with such support was totally not fun.

if not fun then why do it

I saw the opportunity for fun, and while you have been ganking retrievers and coveters I have been in some major fleet fights and small gangs against PL, in fact my KB is full of PL kills and I was in a cap fight where we beat PL. In affect I found the possibility for much more fun in 0.0 now that Fozzie sov had settled down and I joined an AU TZ alliance run by a very very good FC.

So if that is running away with my tail between my legs then I have to grin a bit. But please show me any kill on any of my toons by CODE, by the way that Confessor in Uedama was not me, I ran away with zero loss to CODE, zilch, not a single loss, so is that running away with my tail between my legs. Seems like withdrawing having a ton of kills on CODE, none on me with lots of freighters saved and not a single loss to you, my tail is well between my legs mate, delusion is a big thing with you lot... Cool


sounds like Code won \o/
Marcus Binchiette
Federal Vanguard
#158 - 2017-06-17 03:12:41 UTC
If you want justice in EVE you need to get it yourself. If ganking is encouraged, then, so is Vigilante. If you care about ganking so much why don't you try anti-ganking? It's actually a lot of fun.
Jonah Gravenstein
Machiavellian Space Bastards
#159 - 2017-06-17 06:28:06 UTC
I see Dracvlad is still peddling his conspiracy theory about wreck EHP, along with all of the other junk he spouts about ganking.

In the beginning there was nothing, which exploded.

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Dracvlad
Taishi Combine
Astral Alliance
#160 - 2017-06-17 07:58:42 UTC  |  Edited by: Dracvlad
At an individual level I cannot truthfully say that I withdrew from the fight against Gankers with my tail between my legs, because CODE did not get a single kill on any of my characters, not one, the only loss I had to gankers was a Thrasher on Dracvlad which was me shooting some Russian ones who had just ganked a freighter and who had time to blow up my thrasher.

I lost not a single freighter, a single DST, a single BR or hauler or mining ship, not one logistics ship and I was using pimped Guardians, not one to CODE or Miniluv, not one. So I repeat how is that running away with my tail between my legs? When I have lots of kills on CODE and their allies, saved multiple freighters, including a very very full NCDOT. JF which I bumped out of optimal and the pilot gave me 1bn ISK for the save.

How is that running away with my tail between my legs?

At the time I was doing this I had my killboard updating to ZKill automatically, they are all there. It was only when I briefly dabbled in POCO war decs did I remove that API key.

So if this is losing I wonder what winning is at a personal level?

However as I not a full on propaganda nerd like the CODE players I will point out that the success rate in defending freighters was about 35% in the events I was involved in, but I see that more of a strategic unbalance around bumping more than anything else, but acknowledge the sheer efficiency of CODE and Miniluv in this.

I stopped doing this mainly because I found it boring and loaded against the AG, my decision to back away was directly related to my boredom with the stale play around this. Thankfully I found an active top level PvP alliance in the TZ's that I largely played who would offer me interesting fleet fights, especially with the new capital combat system which I especially like, I was even involved in a cap fight against PL which we won. So I went and did that and left hisec, so that to CODE players is running away with my tail between my legs. Seriously guys, you are just terrible ShockedRollCool

PS. At the moment I am struggling with a personal lack of motivation for Eve caused by Ghost training and Concord frigate gifting to these players, if Shadow of War had not been delayed to October both my subs would have probably not been renewed. Is that CODE winning?

When the going gets tough the Gankers get their CSM rep to change mechanics in their favour.

Blocked: Teckos Pech, Sonya Corvinus, baltec1, Shae Tadaruwa, Wander Prian, Daichi Yamato, Jonah Gravenstein, Merin Ryskin, Linus Gorp