Player Features and Ideas Discussion

When a corporation leaves an alliance at war, please make the war dec against the corporation last for the same time as the remaining duration of the war dec against the alliance, instead of the 24 hour dec we get now. Also, please allow it to be renewed instead of auto-retracted.

While it's not really a huge problem the way it is now, this would go a long way to making the aggressors feel like they're getting their "money's worth". Also, with current mechanics it's possible to make towers in high-sec completely immune which is very un-EVE imo.

Let the anti-war flaming commence.

This has nothing to do with corps joining an alliance to shed a dec, and more to do with corps dropping from an alliance after we dec them.

Here's a reality check for you. Some of our wars cost 400+ mil per week. We pony up 400m to dec an alliance, then a number of corps drop. This happens every week. Should we have to pay 450m, 500m, 550m, 600m and so on (50m increase each time since we're an alliance) to redec the corps? I don't think we should.

If you don't understand why the cost is so high, please consult the EVE wiki on wardec prices before you repost. Thanks.

War decs need to be entirely redesigned, period.

Simple solution to your problem.

GTFO Of Highsec

Problem solved.

You want to fight people. They don't have to fight you. Wow, sandbox much? Sandbox means choices, doesn't mean your choice is supposed to mean other people actually like what you want to do.

Non-consent PVP works great with the "Drive by theory guns ablazing" idea (aka gank) it does not work with the "I want to fight you, so I am going to need to submit application form 22-b and there is nothing you can do about it" (except to just leave) but the fact that BOTH OF YOU ARE PAYING YOUR OWN MONTHLY SUBSCRIPTION TO WHAT IT IS YOU WANT TO DO INDIVIDUALLY AND HUMANS ALWAYS HAVE CONFLICTING INTERESTS. Trust me, you are human and I am human but if you want to do something I don't want to do but what your doing is going to affect me but I am not at all interested....I would leave everytime. How would you feel if I submited a "Peace Dec" to your alliance that means you can't fight anyone but NPC (just pretend it exists)....you would probably just leave your corp/alliance.

So, back on topic.

Pro-tip: GTFO of highsec to get your jollies. Otherwise, find some other way to affect your chosen targets like....raising the price of POS fuels? Worked for goons, works for affecting POS, increases the cost of industry...ect ect repeat ad nausem as it goes up the ladder of economics.

Sounds more frustrated at how many idiots there are out there that think that their way of getting to attack anyone they feel like whenever they want, especially when the other party can't fight back, is the only way that Eve can be played. He's right that there's plenty of PvP to be had out in nullsec, there just isn't any PvHelpless-noobs-and-miners-and-strict-PvEers, which is what most wardeccers are looking for.

Actually, my corp has been wardecced many times (including right now) and I typically just ignore it. I spend enough time in lowsec or far out away from trade hubs that I typically never see any attackers anyways. However, I digress.

I think you're mistaking my comment as directed towards you and the way your corp/alliance does wardecs. I was more concerned with addressing how your proposed changes would affect the way that most wardeccers would use the system.

Frankly, I don't give a crap about how you yourself do wardecs, I will likely never run into you in space, but the bigger picture of how most people use them is what I am concerned with. If you and your corp/alliance are only wardeccing to look for good fights, kudos to you and good luck, but you also should look at the bigger picture and realize that there is more than just the way that you operate that would be affected.

And if you read my post again, keeping in mind that it's talking about wardeccers as a whole, not a personal attack against you, you might realize that what I said is accurate, most wardeccers in general aren't looking for good fights. And there is a higher percentage of people willing/able to PvP in nullsec. I never said there weren't miners and PvEers there, but they tend to have some teeth or friends with teeth, rather than being helpless like so many in highsec are.

I have no delusions that Eve is safe, ever, but I do feel that everyone should have an equal chance to play the game the way they feel like it, including the people who just want to PvE in peace. I do realize there will have to be some middle ground between PvEers wanting to be left alone to have fun and bullies wanting to pick on them for the tears, but I don't think that what you are proposing would be a good solution to it.

I believe that the wardec system as a whole is fundamentally flawed and is in need of a complete overhaul, starting from scratch, to create an environment that allows for highsec combat between certain parties but minimizes the wardeccing of small groups "for teh lolz". However, until such an overhaul happens, I believe that the current ability to shed wardecs if the defender feels the need is more fair than not (the wardeccer can always go an wardec someone else, the defenders can't feasibly do anything similar); it's not optimal, but it's better than some possibilities.