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Hmmmm how about this: Eve is a true reflection of real life, it is as corrupt, full of spongers, con artists, and people just trying to screw you out of your isk, either through scams or multifaceted corps making the price fixing. (can't wait to hear the responses)

But also as in real life there are some honest, reliable and trustworthy people in this game. You either except that or you dont, we all have a choice.

What he/she's getting at is the this won't (necessarily) affect the pockets of those able to hang in null, but will definitely hurt new players/small corps and alliances. No need to deflect the point.

If anything, it's an attempt by CCP to drive plex sales up by "poorer" indy/pvp players to be able to stay in the current doctrines/metas to otherwise be competitive as well as being able to afford the cost increases. Meanwhile the veteran indy players will enjoy their added income along the way once this happens.

As suggested before, CCP could have ninja-nerfed the drop rates for the BPCs and be done with it. The price increases won't really raise so much until the current stockpiles of those BPCs start running dry, but you can bet some will jump on trying to make them raise before it's "necessary".

I had vindicators that were 1.3 bil per hull also. If they go back to 1.3 bil its no where near as expensive Like they were back then. First, there were no escalations from anoms. Second, after down time is when the russians and euros would fight for the 10/10. As you had to scan them down and they didnt respawn until downtime. So, if you wernt on after downtime, no 10/10's for you. Lastly, plex was 450mil. So a vindicator was almsot $60 compared to $20 if they were to reach 1.3bil today. I dont feel any pity because thats how I learned. I had to pay every month and wait for my skill que. Today yall can just kill inject if you want to fly something. Yall are spoiled but dont worry, This will make you stronger!

People play this game to have lots of ships they can fly around and nerfing the ability to afford those ships means some players will simply leave the game.

Bad move.

Eve isn't for everyone. Also bad is having ships which should require more investment, more 'risk for reward' be negligible on the 'risk' side, for a much larger reward.

Hey Fozzie,

as this game is announced sandbox by CCP, what is your understanding of a sandbox?

As soon as there are market tendencies detected by you, you influence the market with the argument, that the market is manipulated by large entities! You shouldn't do that in a sandbox!

The more you do to "shield" the market, the more flexible the community responds. Do you really think, that an entitiy like the goons mine less with that rorqal **** over? Nope, because they can!

If you really think to nerf the Pirate BPC drops is going to influence, what ships are in future fleets, you are wrong again.
The playerbase will adapt as always.

Stop being a sandbox lawyer and let the game develop itself without being directed.
I know that you put a **** ton of work into this game and you have my respect for that. But influencing the game like you did with those last two patches, makes large entities even stronger and the smaller entities are not able to compete anymore.

If you want content, let the playerbase create it. If the vets stop playing, you can't do any "reverse engineering" to make them play again. Believe me!

cheers Ama Zing

I personally am very happy about the changes. For too long, the price of Rattlesnakes and other pirate battleships was far too low. Suppliers like me got out of that market because, Jita Traders were playing silly buggers with the market and what should be a very expensive ship was going for a price point below what it actually costs to collect the BPC alone...

Now hopefully this puts BPC suppliers like myself back in the market. I'd also like to see more use of T1 battleships instead of everything being pirate ones and this helps do that.

WTF? No just no.

Exactly, players set the prices for all the items in game, ccp should not intervene.


If pirate battleships are too cheap, why is PLEX expenssive ?
Maybe ccp should intervene in PLEX prices so we get cheaper plex too.

It's not a matter of buffing other ships.... it is a matter of putting the ships that have fallen out of balance back where they go, in this case mostly the pirate BS. Normal BS are 'supposed(loosely snowballing for market variance)' to sit around 200m give/take. Faction BS are supposed to sit around 500m, and pirate BS are supposed to sit around a bil, again, all of that being contingent on the specific swaying of the market. The problem is that the ships that were supposed to cost more but be better have mostly fallen way out of their target price range because of other changes that have made them much much much easier to acquire. When all of those are at/near their target price, then there are much more clear choices in the risk/reward scales.


Yeah, I could use a megathron. It's not quite as good as a Navy Thron, but still not bad and half the price. Gets the job done, a bit slower, but yeah, and if I die, it's not a huge ding on my wallet.

Or I could use the navy thron, a bit more expensive, but better stats and fitting, so I can get things done more quickly or survive longer. But, if I die, it's gonna hurt a bit more.


Or I have the Vindi. Great bonuses, will do this thing very well compared to the other two, buuuutttt..... it's pretty expensive..... I probably need to be really careful with it, cause if I lose it... yeah, it's gonna sting.

Then I have the Kronos.... whole 'nother can of worms.


That part of the risk/reward tree has completely evaporated, because up until a couple days ago, it was 'yeah vindi is 100m more and so much better. Buy Vindi.' If you just buff the other ships and leave the price trees how they are, there is still not going ot be any reason to really use 2 of the 3 ships, because 1 is going to be objectively better and cost about the same. By fixing the problems that have led to the collapse of the target price, you restore the value of 'worth using and cost effective.'