EVE General Discussion

When the game gets to the point where regular players are pushed out of the loop, you have a bit of a situation.

What I mean is like up till recently in the Character Bazaar where it came down to character traders selling to other character traders. Or PLEX speculators selling back and forth with other PLEX speculators. Or other less obvious examples that I won't go in to.

The small injector mechanic is just going to open up the speculation game to low end speculators. Not help new players get a foothold in the game. At least in my opinion.

Mr Epeen

Today we discuss investment in PLEX

Recomendation: BUY!

I have almost 1.6 million. Don't think I need more.

We have also gone quite some time without a meaningful plex sale, last one I remember was the Angel extravaganza one, which was a very minor discount and the skins, so most people realistically where getting the skins out of it.

the last major sale was black friday, about 6 months ago now.
I remember at one point CCP said that they believe 1-1.2b to be the "sweet spot" for plex prices, and in the past they have done major plex sales any time the prices get considerably above that benchmark. I would not be at all surprised if we see a major plex sale right around the time they hit 1.5b

Even without the sale, the higher plex prices get, the more valuable your 20 dollars becomes, which makes buying plex for sale that much more appealing, which will eventually increase the supply.

yes, it is basic supply and demand, the prices will continue to climb until either the supply increases through a sale, or more people wanting to cash in on the 2b+ prices. or until the demand dries up due to people not being able to afford them anymore.

as someone who trades in plex quite heavily, I have seen very minimal reduction in trade volume which means we haven't actually hit that point yet.

This is exactly why with my core account group I have always gone back and forth from time to time based on the conversion rates of 3 different currencies. Sometimes with RL money and sometimes PLEX is easier to acquire. If it gets high enough Ill return to real money again.


But yes smaller increments always means more people getting involved in investing in the "gold" and "platinum group metals" of this wonderful game.

First off, way to escalate, wow.

Second, where I live, a ****** minimum-wage job pays for subscription in under half the time it would take to grind a plex in-game, and that is with currency conversion.

I dont see drop in supply. Traded amount is big, even somewhat growing, amount of trade orders is big. No wonder, you can get sizeable amount of ISK for it and items are cheap, even deadspace loot. Why grind ISK when you can sell bunch of PLEX?

Um... You're wrong, in my opinion. Here's why - ISK doesn't just appear in your character's wallet. No, not even if you spend IRL money on PLEX. That means the ISK had to be obtained in-game first. Guess who did it? Players.

That a small number of players prefer to funnel IRL monies to CCP for in-game items they later exchange for ISK means nothing when the ISK had to be farmed first. Besides, it won't ever become a major phenomenon, since if the majority of playerbase started to sell PLEX for ISK, the prices would crash and it would no longer be at all profitable, and the cycle would continue.

That's right. The game is fine, you can look on dotlan maps and see people NPCing it up all over New Eden. I'm slaughtering Guristas as I type this. The "pingers" (PVP players who hate pve 'grinding' and only log on for fleets/roams and use PLEX for this isk needs) are important, but it's by no means everyone of even a majority. Even in null sec "pvp" alliances.

People have been saying things like that for a long time (both the "no one will plex at a certain price" thing and "I don't know why people use plex" thing), but that just means that aren't paying attention to what people are actually doing.

I'll take this one. Yes. Yes you can.

I'll give you one example. I just finished building a Nomad today.

Real time: Over a month. Time logged into the game (play time): Under an hour.

You can buy plenty of PLEX with 8+ billion Iskies. Obviously less when you take into account build costs, but you see what I'm saying. Still well over a months worth of PLEX per hour played.

Mr Epeen