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The CCP storyline is not your friend.

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Vikarion
Doomheim
#21 - 2017-04-01 05:39:09 UTC  |  Edited by: Vikarion
Morgana Tsukiyo wrote:
Math background or just friends with latim ?

It was a question about your statement "today's touchy climate". What would this be?


This may sound silly, but I actually did not have an example of "today's touchy climate" to use. I relied upon someone providing it. You, as I knew someone would, did.

Did I not only plan for this, but expect this? Yes, and near to the time I first posted, to be at least somewhat honest ( to be entirely honest would be possibly arrogant). However, most of the time, it is someone from the right or left descending upon me to accuse me of heresy. You are uncomfortably questioning. I like that. But notice the effect my initial "tossing of an incendiary" had. Is it not useful? Has it not provoked?

Also, who is latim? Do you mean latin?

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That is for you to know. Some people read a book and enjoy the make believe, some people read it as truth and try to act on it. The focus here is the person, not the text. The text is just a bunch of characters forming sentences.


The text is more than that, but that is neither here nor there.

Let me illustrate with your next perceptive question...


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Define "far" and "near".

Glad you found the balance point that suits your needs.


Indeed, and thanks. Pleasantries aside, let me put it this way, again, experientially: I once saw a Gallente RPer declare that he had picked his side because it was (and I repeat from aged memory) "it was what anyone who believed in democracy and human rights would pick".

Well. I enjoyed my RP as a Caldari loyalist in part because a Gallente future is exactly what I want. Sort of. As a stage. But one cannot know ones own position until one argues against it.

Except that poster really believed that. That is..."far". And, in part because I used that sort of thing as a reference point - and I am not blaming that person, this was my failure - I went too far into the fiction. I let it affect me, rather than me as a consumer or an observer. Freaking oops!

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Example ?


See above.
Erica Dusette
Division 13
#22 - 2017-04-02 13:43:56 UTC  |  Edited by: Erica Dusette
Vikarion wrote:
In other words, the EvE storyline is not your friend, or even your enemy. It's fluff, literally. It gives flavor. It's not what makes the game fun, at least not for me.

So, because I'm a moron, I was walking away from gameplay I enjoyed, because of a storyline that was only ever intended as instrumental to the enjoyment of the game, not the core of it. Oops.

I don't think you're a moron. It's cool to see some RPers who invest so heavily in the the lore's storyline that racial wins/losses can effect their feelings or motivations personally. You wouldnt be the first person I've seen post their dislike of a storyline direction and express that it's ruining their enjoyment. Over-investing a little like that is easy in any kind of RP I think, and I guess you found that it didn't work for you in terms of putting so much weight into things you ultimately can't control.

The rest of what you said above I agree with totally. Storyline and lore are just backdrops to our character's own stories, of which we have infinitely more control. RPing around storyline has never been something I got much enjoyment out of personally, though full respect to those who base their entire RP around it. In my case I even went so far as to create a portion of racial lore for my own characters, Achurans from a small 'island region' on the homeworld, with beliefs and traditions very different from most other Achur. I like more control over who they are and where they came from so I can unleash my imagination a bit more, whereas some others get more enjoyment and challenge from playing much closer to storyline edicts. *shrug* Whatever you find fun.

Probably also why I enjoy wormhole life, removed almost altogether from Empire with my characters central to their own RP, rather than in Empire where culture and current events would impact who they are more heavily.

Each to their own. The key is to just have fun imo, simple. But maybe try and keep your RP reasonable and still plausible, of course. Beyond that it's your story, only let lore-storyline impact it if you find that an enjoyable thing.

Seems like ultimately you found what's most enjoyable for you, and that's great. Big smile

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Telegram Sam
Sebiestor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#23 - 2017-04-06 20:09:14 UTC
FW kind of has the best of both: the RPing loyalty to a fictional faction, and the in-game ship explosions. And if you hang around in FW awhile, you may become loyal to your fellow system-capturing and enemy FW-shooting teammates. And a little hostile to your rivals on the enemy faction’s team. Who happen to be your fictional faction's arch-enemies.

Elmund Egivand
Sebestacny Circle
#24 - 2017-04-07 02:08:34 UTC  |  Edited by: Elmund Egivand
Telegram Sam wrote:
FW kind of has the best of both: the RPing loyalty to a fictional faction, and the in-game ship explosions. And if you hang around in FW awhile, you may become loyal to your fellow system-capturing and enemy FW-shooting teammates. And a little hostile to your rivals on the enemy faction’s team. Who happen to be your fictional faction's arch-enemies.



Except FW is actually pretty inconsequential to the fluff as of late. It's called the 'Pendulum War' and derided by lots of RPers for a reason. Besides, you aren't even getting direct orders from the brass, you are a private military contractor or a privateer in FW. You are also not really being loyal to your chosen faction either, you are being loyal to this group of PMCs or privateers who claim to speak for and answer to the faction of choice, and said group operates with little oversight beyond what amounts to a demerit system for shooting your own dudes.

A Minmatar warship is like a rusting Beetle with 500 horsepower Cardillac engines in the rear, armour plating bolted to chassis and a M2 Browning stuck on top.

Nana Skalski
Taisaanat Kotei
#25 - 2017-04-23 20:49:54 UTC  |  Edited by: Nana Skalski
You can be loyal in FW. You just have to stick to one side. You can enlist as individual or as corporation, even 1 man corporation.

Also the closest to getting orders from brass is doing missions in FW I think. Maybe if CCP would give FW sides some advanced AI with scheming capabilities, then we would have those direct orders. And AI fleet leaders.
Elmund Egivand
Sebestacny Circle
#26 - 2017-04-24 02:14:38 UTC
Nana Skalski wrote:
You can be loyal in FW. You just have to stick to one side. You can enlist as individual or as corporation, even 1 man corporation.

Also the closest to getting orders from brass is doing missions in FW I think. Maybe if CCP would give FW sides some advanced AI with scheming capabilities, then we would have those direct orders. And AI fleet leaders.


As surprising as it sounds, there is such a thing as a loyal mercenary and a loyal privateer.

A Minmatar warship is like a rusting Beetle with 500 horsepower Cardillac engines in the rear, armour plating bolted to chassis and a M2 Browning stuck on top.

Cybertherion
Sani Sabik Blood Bank
#27 - 2017-04-24 05:37:20 UTC
Curiousity peaked.

I used to run a fan fic blerg, and will probably resume doing so. What is this "CCP Falcon wrecks RP" implication?

I only post here if EvE is offline. Which means my posts are never well timed.

EAT KRABSAK.

Elmund Egivand
Sebestacny Circle
#28 - 2017-04-24 06:22:28 UTC
Cybertherion wrote:
Curiousity peaked.

I used to run a fan fic blerg, and will probably resume doing so. What is this "CCP Falcon wrecks RP" implication?


You definitely didn't read the entire thread, since the point *isn't* 'CCP Falcon wrecks RP' and more 'CCP Falcon will progress storyline and fluff in ways that benefit the game as a whole and RPing as a loud loyalist is not going to affect his decisions in how to progress fluff and storyline. Therefore, roleplaying a loud loyalist who bludgeons his opposition with the party line is an exercise in frustration and shouldn't be pursued seriously.'

A Minmatar warship is like a rusting Beetle with 500 horsepower Cardillac engines in the rear, armour plating bolted to chassis and a M2 Browning stuck on top.

Cybertherion
Sani Sabik Blood Bank
#29 - 2017-04-24 06:53:36 UTC
Ah, I see, so he's kinda the fluffmaster of New Eden.

I didn't realise player action influenced fluff so much. I wish the wiki was still around to refer to, it's kind of hard to work out what is canon these days. Thanks for the reply.

I only post here if EvE is offline. Which means my posts are never well timed.

EAT KRABSAK.

Vikarion
Doomheim
#30 - 2017-05-07 04:21:42 UTC
Elmund Egivand wrote:
Cybertherion wrote:
Curiousity peaked.

I used to run a fan fic blerg, and will probably resume doing so. What is this "CCP Falcon wrecks RP" implication?


You definitely didn't read the entire thread, since the point *isn't* 'CCP Falcon wrecks RP' and more 'CCP Falcon will progress storyline and fluff in ways that benefit the game as a whole and RPing as a loud loyalist is not going to affect his decisions in how to progress fluff and storyline. Therefore, roleplaying a loud loyalist who bludgeons his opposition with the party line is an exercise in frustration and shouldn't be pursued seriously.'


Exactly. I'm not against RP, or even my own RP, this is just a confessional, being honest, so to speak.

And, in being honest, looking at RP for what I should appreciate it as.
DrysonBennington
Aliastra
Gallente Federation
#31 - 2017-05-17 14:28:18 UTC  |  Edited by: DrysonBennington
My question is will CCP create an elite set of story line missions based on the stories such as the Jovian Wet Grave?

These elite missions would be offered once a standing with X amount of agents had been reached.
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