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[MERC] The Marmite Collective

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tainted demon
TunDraGon
Goonswarm Federation
#921 - 2017-05-10 20:06:06 UTC
jack1974 wrote:
Why do coalitions have to exist in highsec? Honest question.....


Because eve is a sandbox game where players make the content.

Corps/alliance's all over eve have always had blues and worked together when needed, with the addition of citadels and seeing Nullsec bring insane fleet numbers to HS (or even some large HS fleets forming up popping them) the only way to come close to combating that is to work together with others.

why does a 5000 man alliance need to make coalitions with other many 1000 man alliance's?
I guess building up relations and empires for others to burn down is just part of eve... is my honest answer.
Noragen Neirfallas
Emotional Net Loss
#922 - 2017-05-10 20:35:43 UTC
Yaosus wrote:

There is a big difference between GANKERS and MERCS. We do not gank, we hunt war targets, take assassination contracts, wardec assists etc.

Meanwhile you just pile up some suicidal taloses on a gate shoot a poor sucker and get concorded. Or worse you gank miners in hisec.

Each time we open fire we shoot a wartarget. Each time you open fire you illegally shoot someone in hisec and get concorded. Notice the difference?

We are not the same.

I don't know. I think there is a rather small differance tbh. Typically smewhere in the vacinity of a 50-500mil fee and the likely hood of keeping your ship. Both are typcally non consentual Highsec PvP. Both fairly well rely on catching people unaware. To get a decent kill Both typically rely on scouting, co-ordination and proper exectution to land the kill. Seem pretty similar to me. Also Both have potential to create great stories Blink

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#923 - 2017-05-11 00:18:04 UTC
Gai Heiyuu wrote:

That's Tora's greatest weakness. When his pride is at stake, he burns bridges in response. After his moderate threats when we dropped contract with him, it couldn't be more clear.

Why do you think, Tora, that you felt forced into deccing Fly Fearless? I saw the weakness in you, and tested it. You failed. You actually retaliated against a rookie corporation in EvE due to your wounded pride. We can sustain the losses inflicted by Marmite. Infact, I think it's a good tool to remind our pilots that flying fearless doesn't mean flying stupid. But I'm confident that we'll get some return kills before this is over. It's not isk v isk to us. It's isk:capita. Means we only gotta nail down 10% of the same losses to apply equal pressure.

Take some advice. Put your pride aside. Start mending bridges now.

Fly Fearless \o/ Or not at all.

https://zkillboard.com/war/545262/
You sure are showing him... He must be feeling immense pressure as they sweep your ships into the trashcan everyday lol
Noragen Neirfallas
Emotional Net Loss
#924 - 2017-05-11 01:01:15 UTC
Australian Excellence wrote:
Gai Heiyuu wrote:

That's Tora's greatest weakness. When his pride is at stake, he burns bridges in response. After his moderate threats when we dropped contract with him, it couldn't be more clear.

Why do you think, Tora, that you felt forced into deccing Fly Fearless? I saw the weakness in you, and tested it. You failed. You actually retaliated against a rookie corporation in EvE due to your wounded pride. We can sustain the losses inflicted by Marmite. Infact, I think it's a good tool to remind our pilots that flying fearless doesn't mean flying stupid. But I'm confident that we'll get some return kills before this is over. It's not isk v isk to us. It's isk:capita. Means we only gotta nail down 10% of the same losses to apply equal pressure.

Take some advice. Put your pride aside. Start mending bridges now.

Fly Fearless \o/ Or not at all.

https://zkillboard.com/war/545262/
You sure are showing him... He must be feeling immense pressure as they sweep your ships into the trashcan everyday lol

If they had any know how/finesse they could be stupidly ISK positive and have more than one kill

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#925 - 2017-05-11 03:04:10 UTC
Noragen Neirfallas wrote:
Australian Excellence wrote:
Gai Heiyuu wrote:

That's Tora's greatest weakness. When his pride is at stake, he burns bridges in response. After his moderate threats when we dropped contract with him, it couldn't be more clear.

Why do you think, Tora, that you felt forced into deccing Fly Fearless? I saw the weakness in you, and tested it. You failed. You actually retaliated against a rookie corporation in EvE due to your wounded pride. We can sustain the losses inflicted by Marmite. Infact, I think it's a good tool to remind our pilots that flying fearless doesn't mean flying stupid. But I'm confident that we'll get some return kills before this is over. It's not isk v isk to us. It's isk:capita. Means we only gotta nail down 10% of the same losses to apply equal pressure.

Take some advice. Put your pride aside. Start mending bridges now.

Fly Fearless \o/ Or not at all.

https://zkillboard.com/war/545262/
You sure are showing him... He must be feeling immense pressure as they sweep your ships into the trashcan everyday lol

If they had any know how/finesse they could be stupidly ISK positive and have more than one kill

But baiting is super hard!... Roll
Noragen Neirfallas
Emotional Net Loss
#926 - 2017-05-11 04:22:04 UTC
Australian Excellence wrote:
Noragen Neirfallas wrote:
Australian Excellence wrote:
Gai Heiyuu wrote:

That's Tora's greatest weakness. When his pride is at stake, he burns bridges in response. After his moderate threats when we dropped contract with him, it couldn't be more clear.

Why do you think, Tora, that you felt forced into deccing Fly Fearless? I saw the weakness in you, and tested it. You failed. You actually retaliated against a rookie corporation in EvE due to your wounded pride. We can sustain the losses inflicted by Marmite. Infact, I think it's a good tool to remind our pilots that flying fearless doesn't mean flying stupid. But I'm confident that we'll get some return kills before this is over. It's not isk v isk to us. It's isk:capita. Means we only gotta nail down 10% of the same losses to apply equal pressure.

Take some advice. Put your pride aside. Start mending bridges now.

Fly Fearless \o/ Or not at all.

https://zkillboard.com/war/545262/
You sure are showing him... He must be feeling immense pressure as they sweep your ships into the trashcan everyday lol

If they had any know how/finesse they could be stupidly ISK positive and have more than one kill

But baiting is super hard!... Roll

Yeah I'm still salty about that one time my newbeans took it upon themselves to bait PIRAT when I wasn't around and killed 5.7bil. Wait what

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Vipsan Agrippa
Machine Gun Coitus
#927 - 2017-05-11 07:35:37 UTC  |  Edited by: Vipsan Agrippa
jack1974 wrote:
Why do coalitions have to exist in highsec? Honest question.....



Mercs like sheering sheep.

Mercs (in the main) hate fighting mercs.




StraightStraightStraight

Edit: seems Pursuit of Happiness were the outliers.Big smile

sorry Rabble you are part of the merc blue/green donut bell curve.Sad



( And yes Jack I have a lovely track ready to play, to set the mood for your next letter to Khromius.Blink )
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Alliances will rise and fall, but one constant in Eve is the smouldering dumpster that is C & P.

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Yaosus
Draconis Impalers
#928 - 2017-05-11 10:08:17 UTC
Dom Arkaral wrote:
@ Yaosus
You're so easily baited it hurts
All these "nobodies" you keep getting triggered on hahahahab


When you run out of solid arguments you start the Cartoon Network show right?
renwahh
Imperial Shipment
Amarr Empire
#929 - 2017-05-11 11:13:40 UTC
Yaosus wrote:
Dom Arkaral wrote:
@ Yaosus
You're so easily baited it hurts
All these "nobodies" you keep getting triggered on hahahahab


When you run out of solid arguments you start the Cartoon Network show right?


I find cartoon network quite enjoyable,

Adventure Time
Gumball
Dexters lab
Chowder

Id rather watch that than boring soaps where everyone is dying 5 times a week or the News where everyone is dying five times a week.

Im sure even yourself when you have 5 mins you have a sneaky peek at Powerpuff girls


Dom Arkaral
Bannheim
Cuttlefish Collective
#930 - 2017-05-11 11:29:10 UTC
Yaosus wrote:
Dom Arkaral wrote:
@ Yaosus
You're so easily baited it hurts
All these "nobodies" you keep getting triggered on hahahahab


When you run out of solid arguments you start the Cartoon Network show right?

Quite ironic that you turn to insults and rl stuff when you can't argue hmm?
Don't you think?

Is VMG going to be elite in the AT15?
Or are they going to pass and let P45 be the only mercs with balls? Lol

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Yaosus
Draconis Impalers
#931 - 2017-05-11 11:37:24 UTC  |  Edited by: Yaosus
Dom Arkaral wrote:
Yaosus wrote:
Dom Arkaral wrote:
@ Yaosus
You're so easily baited it hurts
All these "nobodies" you keep getting triggered on hahahahab


When you run out of solid arguments you start the Cartoon Network show right?

Quite ironic that you turn to insults and rl stuff when you can't argue hmm?
Don't you think?

Is VMG going to be elite in the AT15?
Or are they going to pass and let P45 be the only mercs with balls? Lol


The more I read your reply the more I think you were trying to reply to someone else. I mean ever heard of making sense? Are you ok?

RL stuff? Insults? Could you please show me where I insulted you, or used "rl stuff" to insult you? AT15? P45? No really are you ok? Any signs of a stroke, go check them now :)



QED
Dom Arkaral
Bannheim
Cuttlefish Collective
#932 - 2017-05-11 11:52:49 UTC
Yaosus wrote:
Dom Arkaral wrote:
Yaosus wrote:
Dom Arkaral wrote:
@ Yaosus
You're so easily baited it hurts
All these "nobodies" you keep getting triggered on hahahahab


When you run out of solid arguments you start the Cartoon Network show right?

Quite ironic that you turn to insults and rl stuff when you can't argue hmm?
Don't you think?

Is VMG going to be elite in the AT15?
Or are they going to pass and let P45 be the only mercs with balls? Lol


The more I read your reply the more I think you were trying to reply to someone else. I mean ever heard of making sense? Are you ok?

RL stuff? Insults? Could you please show me where I insulted you, or used "rl stuff" to insult you? AT15? P45? No really are you ok? Any signs of a stroke, go check them now :)



QED

Look 2 pages ago
Implying that I'm mentally slow

Because "I can't grasp the difference between mercs and gankers"
Especially since they're the same thing minus Concord intervention kek
I might sound dumb, but that's a cover I put out there.. it's easier to crush an ant if it thinks you're inoffensive Blink

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Yaosus
Draconis Impalers
#933 - 2017-05-11 12:32:25 UTC
Dom Arkaral wrote:
Yaosus wrote:
Dom Arkaral wrote:
Yaosus wrote:
Dom Arkaral wrote:
@ Yaosus
You're so easily baited it hurts
All these "nobodies" you keep getting triggered on hahahahab


When you run out of solid arguments you start the Cartoon Network show right?

Quite ironic that you turn to insults and rl stuff when you can't argue hmm?
Don't you think?

Is VMG going to be elite in the AT15?
Or are they going to pass and let P45 be the only mercs with balls? Lol


The more I read your reply the more I think you were trying to reply to someone else. I mean ever heard of making sense? Are you ok?

RL stuff? Insults? Could you please show me where I insulted you, or used "rl stuff" to insult you? AT15? P45? No really are you ok? Any signs of a stroke, go check them now :)



QED

Look 2 pages ago
Implying that I'm mentally slow

Because "I can't grasp the difference between mercs and gankers"
Especially since they're the same thing minus Concord intervention kek
I might sound dumb, but that's a cover I put out there.. it's easier to crush an ant if it thinks you're inoffensive Blink



Well it is obvious that you can't grasp the difference.

1. First and foremost you do not obey the rules imposed by CCP. You just game the system by stopping CONCORD in the nearby systems, docking and undocking flagged alts to delay CONCORD response etc. Meanwhile we mercs use the CCP wardec system and we pay to shoot our targets.

2. You do not fly ships, you fly garbage cans and benefit from the insurance system, which in your case should not even be available. Meanwhile we fly 1.5-3.5 bil ships and we risk losing those to our wardecced targets.

3. Your operations are set up by clusters of meaningless alts. Meanwhile we mercs use proper characters and we form a group of people.

4. You do not function as a merc group you function as groups of copycat thugs popping people who cannot retaliate against you. Meanwhile our wars can turn against us.


Eventually your operation will cease to exist. Meanwhile merc groups will always be there.

Sucky
Doomheim
#934 - 2017-05-11 12:45:40 UTC
This thread requires an intervention.
Dom Arkaral
Bannheim
Cuttlefish Collective
#935 - 2017-05-11 13:14:44 UTC  |  Edited by: Dom Arkaral
Yaosus wrote:



Well it is obvious that you can't grasp the difference.

1. First and foremost you do not obey the rules imposed by CCP. You just game the system by stopping CONCORD in the nearby systems, docking and undocking flagged alts to delay CONCORD response etc. Meanwhile we mercs use the CCP wardec system and we pay to shoot our targets.

2. You do not fly ships, you fly garbage cans and benefit from the insurance system, which in your case should not even be available. Meanwhile we fly 1.5-3.5 bil ships and we risk losing those to our wardecced targets.

3. Your operations are set up by clusters of meaningless alts. Meanwhile we mercs use proper characters and we form a group of people.

4. You do not function as a merc group you function as groups of copycat thugs popping people who cannot retaliate against you. Meanwhile our wars can turn against us.


Eventually your operation will cease to exist. Meanwhile merc groups will always be there.


Your ignorance shows...

You should stop posting

P.s. I would school you about ganking mechanics and what I personally do, but it's obviously a waste of time. Ty for bringing the usual carebear ignorance about ganking to the table Lol

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Yaosus
Draconis Impalers
#936 - 2017-05-11 13:22:08 UTC  |  Edited by: Yaosus
Dom Arkaral wrote:

Your ignorance shows...

You should stop posting



And again you are out of solid arguments and started to blabber :) If you can counter my logic and what I have posted above, feel free to dismantle everything I said, it's a debate right... but if you cannot offer valid arguments please don't try to change the subject or post childish remarks... it's pathetic.. but then again.. CODE

@ontopic

Marmites are the best :)
Dom Arkaral
Bannheim
Cuttlefish Collective
#937 - 2017-05-11 13:24:17 UTC  |  Edited by: Dom Arkaral
Yaosus wrote:
Dom Arkaral wrote:

Your ignorance shows...

You should stop posting



And again you are out of solid arguments and started to blabber :) If you can counter my logic and what I have posted above, feel free to dismantle everything I posted, it's a debate right... but if you cannot offer valid arguments please don't try to change the subject or post childish remarks... it's pathetic.. but the again.. CODE

@ontopic

Marmites are the best :)

I will
Tonight
When I'm not working

Because rl>eve

P.s. CODE. Always Wins Cool

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Starrakatt
Celtic Anarchy
Dead Terrorists
#938 - 2017-05-11 13:28:24 UTC
Dom Arkaral wrote:

Or are they going to pass and let P45 be the only mercs with balls? Lol

Devil's Warrior participated in an earlier AT.
Yaosus
Draconis Impalers
#939 - 2017-05-11 13:28:40 UTC
Dom Arkaral wrote:
Yaosus wrote:
Dom Arkaral wrote:

Your ignorance shows...

You should stop posting



And again you are out of solid arguments and started to blabber :) If you can counter my logic and what I have posted above, feel free to dismantle everything I posted, it's a debate right... but if you cannot offer valid arguments please don't try to change the subject or post childish remarks... it's pathetic.. but the again.. CODE

@ontopic

Marmites are the best :)

I will
Tonight
When I'm not working

Because rl>eve

P.s. CODE. Always Wins Cool


Another difference between gankers and mercs. I am at work since 10 am, sitting in my office working and replying to your posts from time to time. Mercs are better than gankers at this too :)))
Dom Arkaral
Bannheim
Cuttlefish Collective
#940 - 2017-05-11 13:43:16 UTC
Starrakatt wrote:
Dom Arkaral wrote:

Or are they going to pass and let P45 be the only mercs with balls? Lol

Devil's Warrior participated in an earlier AT.

Ty for the correction
Much respect for these guys <3

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