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[MERC] The Marmite Collective

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Yaosus
From Hisec with Love Holdings
From Hisec with Love Coalition
#881 - 2017-05-10 10:33:20 UTC
Dom Arkaral wrote:

Top dogs don't care about losses.
Top dogs manage to annoy their enemies.
Top dogs don't let their kill count go down because someone else decced them.
Top dogs don't need a donut to fight their wars.

That's why VMG won't ever be a top dog alliance.


VMG is not an alt ganking corp. There is a big difference between ganking trash and a real merc. While you game the system and gank defenseless people we mercs play by the rules, pay for the wars and enjoy the game.

Eventually CCP will erase you.
Tora Bushido
The Marmite Mercenaries
BLACKFLAG.
#882 - 2017-05-10 10:41:37 UTC  |  Edited by: Tora Bushido
Yaosus wrote:
I always respected you as one of the oldest and smartest mercs in game.
Then you should know me well enough to know, that even when it looks like I'm just posting random smack talk, it has been made for a reason. I don't randomly smack talk, unless I can use it in mind games. Mind games where people think they decided to do something by choice, without even knowing they have been manipulated. The more information you have on your enemy, the easier it becomes to do this. How many successful attempts have you seen to disband Marmites? How often did you hear, this time it will all be different? I analyse people's weak spots and avoid their stronger ones. What your weak spots are, is something you have to discover by yourself.

FYI, I also do this for a living, not just in Eve. Blink

Yaosus wrote:
you welcomed our enemies and you willingly became the enemy in the process.
No, that choice was forced upon me by VMG. The moment I told them FINS would be joining us, VMG and PE redecced them, forcing me to stand down (And PE agreed to end their war just days before). That's not something friends do. Just as friends dont start a coalition with PIRAT, knowing they are the nemesis of your blues for years. For me, Fins joining was just like any other corp joining. A decision I make, not anyone else. We arent one of VMG's many bitches and VMG doesnt run Marmites. And even if FINS would go tomorrow, it will still be a Marmite decision. We wont be pushed around like the rest.

DELETE THE WEAK, ADAPT OR DIE !

Meta Gaming Level VII, Psycho Warfare Level X, Smack Talk Level VII.

gnshadowninja
Deep Core Mining Inc.
Caldari State
#883 - 2017-05-10 10:53:14 UTC
Tora Bushido wrote:
Yaosus wrote:
I always respected you as one of the oldest and smartest mercs in game.
Then you should know me well enough to know, that even when it looks like I'm just posting random smack talk, it has been made for a reason. I don't randomly smack talk, unless I can use it in mind games. Mind games where people think they decided to do something by choice, without even knowing they have been manipulated. The more information you have on your enemy, the easier it becomes to do this. How many successful attempts have you seen to disband Marmites? How often did you hear, this time it will all be different? I analyse people's weak spots and avoid their stronger ones. What your weak spots are, is something you have to discover by yourself.

FYI, I also do this for a living, not just in Eve. Blink


I'm just happy were all in it for the long haul, well needed content and always something to pew pew at!
Got abit boring in What Squad war when your guys were just in frigates docking, this time round we can shoot stuff Big smile
Tora Bushido
The Marmite Mercenaries
BLACKFLAG.
#884 - 2017-05-10 11:01:12 UTC
gnshadowninja wrote:
I'm just happy were all in it for the long haul, well needed content and always something to pew pew at!
Got abit boring in What Squad war when your guys were just in frigates docking, this time round we can shoot stuff Big smile
A classic mistake often made by ceo's and active members. You might enjoy it (which I believe you do), but how about the other 85% of the alliance. Time will tell..... Blink

DELETE THE WEAK, ADAPT OR DIE !

Meta Gaming Level VII, Psycho Warfare Level X, Smack Talk Level VII.

gnshadowninja
Deep Core Mining Inc.
Caldari State
#885 - 2017-05-10 11:14:36 UTC
Tora Bushido wrote:
gnshadowninja wrote:
I'm just happy were all in it for the long haul, well needed content and always something to pew pew at!
Got abit boring in What Squad war when your guys were just in frigates docking, this time round we can shoot stuff Big smile
A classic mistake often made by ceo's and active members. You might enjoy it (which I believe you do), but how about the other 85% of the alliance. Time will tell..... Blink


You know me, if it flashes red I'm game Cool

Honestly though, we all do other stuff whilst pewing. Having alt toon in PL & Goons passes alot of time while you wait for pesky targets to undock! P
Yaosus
From Hisec with Love Holdings
From Hisec with Love Coalition
#886 - 2017-05-10 11:39:57 UTC
Tora Bushido wrote:


Yaosus wrote:
you welcomed our enemies and you willingly became the enemy in the process.
No, that choice was forced upon me by VMG. The moment I told them FINS would be joining us, VMG and PE redecced them, forcing me to stand down (And PE agreed to end their war just days before). That's not something friends do. Just as friends dont start a coalition with PIRAT, knowing they are the nemesis of your blues for years. For me, Fins joining was just like any other corp joining. A decision I make, not anyone else. We arent one of VMG's many bitches and VMG doesnt run Marmites. And even if FINS would go tomorrow, it will still be a Marmite decision. We wont be pushed around like the rest.



We all know how it went down, Khrom was politely asking you not to do this because the gila robots were shitting in our backyard. You refused invoking Marmites glory and bla bla. You can't hide behind the fence with this one. So you are also a liar.

VMG has no bitches and never had any... some of the allies did turn out to be bitches.. go figure who that could be. You just like to throw **** around like saeger aiming for targets that are not there. You'd be amazed if you'd know how people think about you for real.

Manipulation is successful as long as nobody figures you out. Manipulation is not equal with throwing a bunch of crap and lies to a deaf audience.

Who said something about disbanding Marmites? We will fight and we will see who wins. We already started how about you?
Tora Bushido
The Marmite Mercenaries
BLACKFLAG.
#887 - 2017-05-10 11:48:22 UTC  |  Edited by: Tora Bushido
Yaosus wrote:
Khrom was politely asking you
I stopped reading after this, because I couldnt stop laughing. Then I realised you werent trolling.... Evil

These were the first politely things he told me :

Quote:
If you think they can stick their noses in our business and then jump over to you guys and be blue and focus on PIRAT without us getting involved you have the wrong idea.

Quote:
This is a bad choice for you considering the timing

I make up a lot of things about him, but polite or diplomatic aint one of them. Natural Clonekiller is a different story. I would give him those qualifications any time.

PIRAT had been shitting in our backyard for almost 2 years. That didnt stop VMG from forming a coalition with them, did they? Next time look at cause and effect before you reply.

DELETE THE WEAK, ADAPT OR DIE !

Meta Gaming Level VII, Psycho Warfare Level X, Smack Talk Level VII.

Dom Arkaral
Bannheim
Cuttlefish Collective
#888 - 2017-05-10 11:57:12 UTC
Yaosus wrote:
Dom Arkaral wrote:

Top dogs don't care about losses.
Top dogs manage to annoy their enemies.
Top dogs don't let their kill count go down because someone else decced them.
Top dogs don't need a donut to fight their wars.

That's why VMG won't ever be a top dog alliance.


VMG is not an alt ganking corp. There is a big difference between ganking trash and a real merc. While you game the system and gank defenseless people we mercs play by the rules, pay for the wars and enjoy the game.

Eventually CCP will erase you.

LOL did you lose a mining barge or something?

TIL VMG let carebears in its ranks LolLol

Tear Gatherer. Quebecker. Has no Honer. Salt Harvester.

Broadcast 4 Reps -- YOU ARE NOT ALONE, EVER

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CCL Loyalist

Yaosus
From Hisec with Love Holdings
From Hisec with Love Coalition
#889 - 2017-05-10 12:07:19 UTC
Dom Arkaral wrote:
Yaosus wrote:
Dom Arkaral wrote:

Top dogs don't care about losses.
Top dogs manage to annoy their enemies.
Top dogs don't let their kill count go down because someone else decced them.
Top dogs don't need a donut to fight their wars.

That's why VMG won't ever be a top dog alliance.


VMG is not an alt ganking corp. There is a big difference between ganking trash and a real merc. While you game the system and gank defenseless people we mercs play by the rules, pay for the wars and enjoy the game.

Eventually CCP will erase you.

LOL did you lose a mining barge or something?

TIL VMG let carebears in its ranks LolLol


No I have never mined or lost something to you. I just think that what you do is lame.
Tora Bushido
The Marmite Mercenaries
BLACKFLAG.
#890 - 2017-05-10 12:07:54 UTC  |  Edited by: Tora Bushido
gnshadowninja wrote:
You know me, if it flashes red I'm game Cool
You'll have a few less targets to shoot at. The Fins cant handle the heat.

DELETE THE WEAK, ADAPT OR DIE !

Meta Gaming Level VII, Psycho Warfare Level X, Smack Talk Level VII.

Dom Arkaral
Bannheim
Cuttlefish Collective
#891 - 2017-05-10 12:22:25 UTC
Yaosus wrote:
Dom Arkaral wrote:
Yaosus wrote:
Dom Arkaral wrote:

Top dogs don't care about losses.
Top dogs manage to annoy their enemies.
Top dogs don't let their kill count go down because someone else decced them.
Top dogs don't need a donut to fight their wars.

That's why VMG won't ever be a top dog alliance.


VMG is not an alt ganking corp. There is a big difference between ganking trash and a real merc. While you game the system and gank defenseless people we mercs play by the rules, pay for the wars and enjoy the game.

Eventually CCP will erase you.

LOL did you lose a mining barge or something?

TIL VMG let carebears in its ranks LolLol


No I have never mined or lost something to you. I just think that what you do is lame.

You do know how ironic that sounds coming from you huh? XD

Tear Gatherer. Quebecker. Has no Honer. Salt Harvester.

Broadcast 4 Reps -- YOU ARE NOT ALONE, EVER

Instigator of the First ISD Thunderdome

CCL Loyalist

Yaosus
From Hisec with Love Holdings
From Hisec with Love Coalition
#892 - 2017-05-10 12:29:52 UTC  |  Edited by: Yaosus
Dom Arkaral wrote:

You do know how ironic that sounds coming from you huh? XD



There is a big difference between GANKERS and MERCS. We do not gank, we hunt war targets, take assassination contracts, wardec assists etc.

Meanwhile you just pile up some suicidal taloses on a gate shoot a poor sucker and get concorded. Or worse you gank miners in hisec.

Each time we open fire we shoot a wartarget. Each time you open fire you illegally shoot someone in hisec and get concorded. Notice the difference?

We are not the same.
Dom Arkaral
Bannheim
Cuttlefish Collective
#893 - 2017-05-10 12:34:42 UTC
Yaosus wrote:
Dom Arkaral wrote:

You do know how ironic that sounds coming from you huh? XD



There is a big difference between GANKERS and MERCS. We do not gank, we hunt war targets, take assassination contracts, wardec assists etc.

Meanwhile you just pile up some suicidal taloses on a gate shoot a poor sucker and get concorded. Or worse you gank miners in hisec.

Each time we open fire we shoot a wartarget. Each time you open fire you illegally shoot someone in hisec and get concorded. Notice the difference?

We are not the same.

Mercs gank, only according to Concord laws
We gank, without any restrictions but the time Concord takes to come nuke us..

Also, Taloses?! Who even uses those nowadays? Lol

The only other difference between gankers and mercs us that we make so much more isk and get so many more tears ;)
You have a lot to learn young padawan hahahah

Tear Gatherer. Quebecker. Has no Honer. Salt Harvester.

Broadcast 4 Reps -- YOU ARE NOT ALONE, EVER

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Yaosus
From Hisec with Love Holdings
From Hisec with Love Coalition
#894 - 2017-05-10 12:51:19 UTC  |  Edited by: Yaosus
Dom Arkaral wrote:

Mercs gank, only according to Concord laws
We gank, without any restrictions but the time Concord takes to come nuke us..

Also, Taloses?! Who even uses those nowadays? Lol

The only other difference between gankers and mercs us that we make so much more isk and get so many more tears ;)
You have a lot to learn young padawan hahahah



Are you unable to grasp the concept of declaring war and legally shooting a target in highsec? One does not go ape in a Catalyst and pop shuttles and pods on a gate just for the lulz. That is ********, ya know?

No no, I think you are mistaking VMG with Marmites. In VMG you make shitloads of isk, we get paid for the contracts and for the kills. We keep what we kill :)

When I was popping peeps in Rancer with Ginger's crew you were still trying to finish Super Mario Bros2, I bet. But that's ancient history.
Dom Arkaral
Bannheim
Cuttlefish Collective
#895 - 2017-05-10 12:59:59 UTC
Yaosus wrote:
Dom Arkaral wrote:

Mercs gank, only according to Concord laws
We gank, without any restrictions but the time Concord takes to come nuke us..

Also, Taloses?! Who even uses those nowadays? Lol

The only other difference between gankers and mercs us that we make so much more isk and get so many more tears ;)
You have a lot to learn young padawan hahahah



Are you unable to grasp the concept of declaring war and legally shooting a target in highsec? One does not go ape in a Catalyst and pop shuttles and pods on a gate just for the lulz. That is ********, ya know?

No no, I think you are mistaking VMG with Marmites. In VMG you make shitloads of isk, we get paid for the contracts and for the kills. We keep what we kill :)

When I was popping peeps in Rancer with Ginger's crew you were still trying to finish Super Mario Bros2, I bet. But that's ancient history.

Last I heard,
We're that one group popping the most expensive **** anywhere that isn't a supercarrier or a titan Lol
And why would we care if we're paid with isk?
Tears are way better, and they can be harvested over and over again lmao.

Only a fool would only care about isk tbh Roll

Tear Gatherer. Quebecker. Has no Honer. Salt Harvester.

Broadcast 4 Reps -- YOU ARE NOT ALONE, EVER

Instigator of the First ISD Thunderdome

CCL Loyalist

Tora Bushido
The Marmite Mercenaries
BLACKFLAG.
#896 - 2017-05-10 13:01:10 UTC
Yaosus wrote:
No no, I think you are mistaking VMG with Marmites. In VMG you make shitloads of isk, we get paid for the contracts and for the kills. We keep what we kill :)
Marmite puts all the isks made, back in the alliance wars, SRP, donations when you're low, etc and people keep what they kill. Do Marmites make **** loads of isks? No, Marmites priority is fun and tears.

DELETE THE WEAK, ADAPT OR DIE !

Meta Gaming Level VII, Psycho Warfare Level X, Smack Talk Level VII.

gnshadowninja
Deep Core Mining Inc.
Caldari State
#897 - 2017-05-10 13:06:06 UTC
Tora Bushido wrote:
gnshadowninja wrote:
You know me, if it flashes red I'm game Cool
You'll have a few less targets to shoot at. The Fins cant handle the heat.


This is sad news, I am hoping there is plans to bring in additional meatshield, I mean members to Marmite. Blink

Well, you've never let me down in the past and always recruited more so I'll await the future content!
Yaosus
From Hisec with Love Holdings
From Hisec with Love Coalition
#898 - 2017-05-10 13:12:53 UTC
Dom Arkaral wrote:
Yaosus wrote:
Dom Arkaral wrote:

Mercs gank, only according to Concord laws
We gank, without any restrictions but the time Concord takes to come nuke us..

Also, Taloses?! Who even uses those nowadays? Lol

The only other difference between gankers and mercs us that we make so much more isk and get so many more tears ;)
You have a lot to learn young padawan hahahah



Are you unable to grasp the concept of declaring war and legally shooting a target in highsec? One does not go ape in a Catalyst and pop shuttles and pods on a gate just for the lulz. That is ********, ya know?

No no, I think you are mistaking VMG with Marmites. In VMG you make shitloads of isk, we get paid for the contracts and for the kills. We keep what we kill :)

When I was popping peeps in Rancer with Ginger's crew you were still trying to finish Super Mario Bros2, I bet. But that's ancient history.

Last I heard,
We're that one group popping the most expensive **** anywhere that isn't a supercarrier or a titan Lol
And why would we care if we're paid with isk?
Tears are way better, and they can be harvested over and over again lmao.

Only a fool would only care about isk tbh Roll



You keep jumping from one subject to the next without answering the questions. So I believe now you understand the difference between a mercenary and a ganker.

A merc shoots war targets.

A ganker does not give a f. and shoots whatever he wants.

Before the PLEX or before you could even carry a plex in 2007-2008, October Snow popped a 90+ bil hauler. The killmail was truncated due to its length. Stats were on battleclinic.
Dom Arkaral
Bannheim
Cuttlefish Collective
#899 - 2017-05-10 13:25:35 UTC
Yaosus wrote:
Dom Arkaral wrote:
Yaosus wrote:
Dom Arkaral wrote:

Mercs gank, only according to Concord laws
We gank, without any restrictions but the time Concord takes to come nuke us..

Also, Taloses?! Who even uses those nowadays? Lol

The only other difference between gankers and mercs us that we make so much more isk and get so many more tears ;)
You have a lot to learn young padawan hahahah



Are you unable to grasp the concept of declaring war and legally shooting a target in highsec? One does not go ape in a Catalyst and pop shuttles and pods on a gate just for the lulz. That is ********, ya know?

No no, I think you are mistaking VMG with Marmites. In VMG you make shitloads of isk, we get paid for the contracts and for the kills. We keep what we kill :)

When I was popping peeps in Rancer with Ginger's crew you were still trying to finish Super Mario Bros2, I bet. But that's ancient history.

Last I heard,
We're that one group popping the most expensive **** anywhere that isn't a supercarrier or a titan Lol
And why would we care if we're paid with isk?
Tears are way better, and they can be harvested over and over again lmao.

Only a fool would only care about isk tbh Roll



You keep jumping from one subject to the next without answering the questions. So I believe now you understand the difference between a mercenary and a ganker.

A merc shoots war targets.

A ganker does not give a f. and shoots whatever he wants.

Before the PLEX or before you could even carry a plex in 2007-2008, October Snow popped a 90+ bil hauler. The killmail was truncated due to its length. Stats were on battleclinic.

I've done both
I know what the differences are lol

I also know the mechanics behind both.

Can you say the same?

And who really cares some dude popped one 90b freighter once?
No HS entity even comes close to the isk destroyed we get hahahah

Now, if you'll excuse me, this is Tora's thread.
If you want to cry that we can shoot anything go make another Grrr gankers thread Cool

Tear Gatherer. Quebecker. Has no Honer. Salt Harvester.

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Yaosus
From Hisec with Love Holdings
From Hisec with Love Coalition
#900 - 2017-05-10 13:28:32 UTC
Dom Arkaral wrote:

I've done both
I know what the differences are lol

I also know the mechanics behind both.

Can you say the same?

And who really cares some dude popped one 90b freighter once?
No HS entity even comes close to the isk destroyed we get hahahah

Now, if you'll excuse me, this is Tora's thread.
If you want to cry that we can shoot anything go make another Grrr gankers thread Cool



Back then you were still trying to finish Super Mario.. right?