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What is the general "health" of this game? Subs? New players, etc?
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Yebo Lakatosh
Brutor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#21 - 2017-04-25 13:47:29 UTC  |  Edited by: Yebo Lakatosh
I have relevant and very important information that is my personal opinion. It's backed by very extensive thinking I regularly do.

EvE is really cool, and it is for everyone. Sadly not everyone is for EvE. And when they try it and fail to adapt, they go out with a loud bang.. sometimes. That may look unhealthy to the onlookers, but the game will last. The addicts will sustain it. And those who get deep enough get totally addicted.

Elite F1 pilot since YC119, incarnate of honor, integrity and tidi.
TigerXtrm
KarmaFleet
Goonswarm Federation
#22 - 2017-04-25 17:16:25 UTC
Slick Executioner wrote:
I am LOVING this game, although three days in I realize I barely u der stand it all.

With that said, what is the overall status of the game? Are more people playing now than ever before (with the f2p option now)?

Are there a ton of new players joining?

Just curious.

Thanks!


EVE has been dying for exactly 5072 days and will continue to die well into the future.

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Lulu Lunette
Savage Moon Society
#23 - 2017-04-25 17:18:45 UTC
I've only been playing a little over two years and have witnessed Eve having regular peaks and valleys. Cyclical.

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Vic Jefferson
Stimulus
Rote Kapelle
#24 - 2017-04-25 17:42:04 UTC
It's a great time to be a new player if you join a major sov-bloc.The current sov system essentially turns new players into resources for the sov-blocs - the blocs need miners and ratters, and new players need easy access to resources and a good deal of guidance - it works out to being slightly mutually beneficial in the end probably.

It's a horrible time to join as a new player if you do not want to play sov-online. There really aren't that many growing entities or even the potential to grow as a non-sov entity right now. Low and NPC nullsec are basically ignored, and those are the places that effectively function as 'nurseries' for new groups of players looking to play the game as a non-sov entity. Generally I feel most gaming groups these days are smaller (on the order of 10-15), and these groups are basically forced by existing mechanics to either adopt a sov-alliance, or resign themselves to an area of space which isn't really curated or looked after.

They have done a great job on updating Sov-Online. It should, however, be possible to join and play your EvE Online.

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Herzog Wolfhammer
Sigma Special Tactics Group
#25 - 2017-04-25 18:40:44 UTC
The game is the best it has ever been, warts and all. The devs and design team are doing a good job.

A kind of "great malaise" hit around late 2014 and the game is still lingering under it. The game is not going to die, but it's showing age.

And it has more to do with competition and options than anything else. One of the big draws for online gaming is customization of character and/or vehicles or equipment. Eve has always suffered from offering these beloved options while at the same time creating a need to grind for it. There was once a big blowup over expensive pants and monocles for example.

But since around 2010-2012 even FPS games have been offering customization options that players like - and even with skill sets too, let alone being able to put say a punisher skull on your plane/ship/tank/etc.

And without the grind and permaloss too.

We can make ourselves feel good and go all "hurr durr quick gratification killing civilization we're doomed buy a water filter" mode in the light of players showing they don't want to "invest" in Eve. But in reality, it's all games and people want to play a game. The weaponization of boredom in Eve is what came to a head in 2014 and with the other options out there in the market, people would just rather have fun. It's their game time they get to choose.


So the health of the game is static, and it's surviving. The MMO concept is becoming a dinosaur but the "product" of Eve is strong and has a fan base. If anything happens to the game it won't be around the proverbial "turning off the lights".

Bring back DEEEEP Space!
Issler Dainze
Tadakastu-Obata Corporation
The Honda Accord
#26 - 2017-04-25 18:54:36 UTC
Eve is already dead. It has then been found to be undead and lives by the rule "what is dead can never die"!

Serious answer Eve really is likely to stay around for the foreseeable future. Short of Eve being sold (it is on the market if I understand things) CCP will keep the lights on in the Eve verse. I think Eve is very much too close to the core of the true spirit of Iceland and as long as its in the hands of Vikings you will continue to be able to shoot strangers in space in the face.

Eve will never be much bigger but it really doesn't need to be.
Sir BloodArgon Aulmais
Center for Advanced Studies
Gallente Federation
#27 - 2017-04-25 18:55:36 UTC
The health is 1% structure. Forever dying, but forever not dying
Shiloh Templeton
Cheyenne HET Co
#28 - 2017-04-26 04:02:26 UTC
Slick Executioner wrote:
I am LOVING this game, although three days in I realize I barely u der stand it all.

With that said, what is the overall status of the game? Are more people playing now than ever before (with the f2p option now)?

Are there a ton of new players joining?

Just curious.

Thanks!

The game itself is arguably the best it's ever been. Although it might be having a bit of an identity crises as it goes from a game that prided itself on it's hard core nature and cliff of learning, to a more generally approachable game. The MMO aspect of the game is not at it's peak. Free to Play sparked a lot of sizzle, but it's proven hard to maintain. The bitter vets hang around with the hopes that CCP will introduce new features that spark their enthusiasm again.

But none of that matters for the type of new players that find Eve appealing. Which it sounds like you are.

Join a corp if you want to. But I can personally attest to the fact that it isn't a necessity to enjoy the game.

Welcome to Eve.


Hello Meow Kitty
Ministry of War
Amarr Empire
#29 - 2017-04-26 04:08:17 UTC
This game interests a small portion of the gaming community man. When activities take hours to do along with decade worth of training queue for ships and modules, don't look for the masses to be hooked.
joshua tee
Center for Advanced Studies
Gallente Federation
#30 - 2017-04-26 04:29:19 UTC
doesnt seem to be good -- a day or two impressons
joshua tee
Center for Advanced Studies
Gallente Federation
#31 - 2017-04-26 04:45:50 UTC
Hello Meow Kitty wrote:
This game interests a small portion of the gaming community man. When activities take hours to do along with decade worth of training queue for ships and modules, don't look for the masses to be hooked.
joshua tee
Center for Advanced Studies
Gallente Federation
#32 - 2017-04-26 04:53:55 UTC  |  Edited by: joshua tee
just have a look at teh forum

2017-04-26 04:53:55 UTC

is tat ffo mah rrrf
radkid10
University of Caille
Gallente Federation
#33 - 2017-04-26 07:02:44 UTC
the game is nowhere near dead
the problem is only three of the alliance's in the game I have all the player base
Myriad Blaze
Common Sense Ltd
Nulli Secunda
#34 - 2017-04-26 07:22:02 UTC
Nasar Vyron wrote:
Jenn aSide wrote:
It's dying, of course.

Related, In 3 months and 6 days we will have our 14th Annual EVE is DYING!!!! day. woot.

For my dying day gift, I'd like a pony. A dead one, because it's dying day of curse.



No, I will give you a starving pony on the brink of death in a sealed crate. It's dying day, not dead day. I'll let you decide if it's really dead or not.

Schrödinger's Pony ?
Cybertherion
Doomheim
#35 - 2017-04-26 08:36:52 UTC
Can Schrödinger's Pegasus please officially be adopted as a canonical term for these threads?

radkid10 wrote:
the game is nowhere near dead
the problem is only three of the alliance's in the game I have all the player base


And can All Your Base are Belong to Us please officially be...

... nah. Just seeing if cute avatars can smile.

I only post here if EvE is offline. Which means my posts are never well timed.

EAT KRABSAK.
ModusOperandi
Celestial Geologics Mineral Concern
#36 - 2017-04-26 08:43:47 UTC
I started playing back in '06, and the game has changed a lot. I am quite casual, so my opinion should be taken with a grain of salt, but I feel EVE is the best it has ever been. I don't like plex and the selling of skill points, but apparently I am in the minority on that. However, they have continuously upgraded the game, and if they keep up with it, I see EVE flourishing for a long time. I have no plans to ever quit, because there is simply NOTHING else like it. Not even close.
Conar
My Wormhole Hurts
#37 - 2017-04-26 14:31:29 UTC
Sir BloodArgon Aulmais wrote:
The health is 1% structure. Forever dying, but forever not dying


It is approaching 0% but never actually get to zero..... Or

If we refuse to research the question, it could be concluded that it is both alive and well and also dying.

Conar 07
Jenn aSide
Soul Machines
The Initiative.
#38 - 2017-04-26 14:50:11 UTC
Hello Meow Kitty wrote:
This game interests a small portion of the gaming community man. When activities take hours to do along with decade worth of training queue for ships and modules, don't look for the masses to be hooked.


And thank goodness for that. The only things on Earth that are both popular and 'good' at the same time are Air and Water. Everything thing else that appeals to the masses sucks.
Ocean Ormand
Bagel and Lox
#39 - 2017-04-26 14:50:34 UTC
Eve is not dying. Rather it is already dead. Although dead, it just refuses to die, and continues to suck money from the wallets of its unsuspecting victims who are thereupon infected with an illness that makes them bitter and unable to leave. The best any eve player can hope for is endless lurking the forms making snarky comments about how eve was once a better place where everyone had endless solo pvp and no one was bored ever.
Cybertherion
Doomheim
#40 - 2017-04-26 14:59:54 UTC  |  Edited by: Cybertherion
Ocean Ormand wrote:
Eve is not dying. Rather it is already dead.


Male cow s**t you fire top slag. If it was dead you couldn't post this.

OP: Many EvE players are silver-spoon fed as*hats, who couldn't program a cheeseburger let alone an MMO. Their continual complaints about EvE has nothing to do with the game, they just act like they (once) knew/know how it was run. Fortune favours another mindset.

Bittervets and redheads are terminal soulless diseases. EvE (which literally means life) is not part of their system.

I only post here if EvE is offline. Which means my posts are never well timed.

EAT KRABSAK.