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The Like and Get Likes Thread - Renewed (Again)

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mr ed thehouseofed
Pator Tech School
Minmatar Republic
#1301 - 2017-04-13 12:30:31 UTC
Big smile

i want a eve pinball machine...  confirming  CCP Cognac is best cognac

DeMichael Crimson
Republic University
Minmatar Republic
#1302 - 2017-04-13 12:31:11 UTC
Nana Skalski wrote:
Timezone o/

RPlayers dont need much I think. You can even RP without all that game stuff, only imagination and some communication channel.

I dont think WIS will replace the imagination for RPlayers. Ever. If they would have to add all those things inside my head, when RP would have to meet gameplay..... OopsOopsOops.... yeah.Lol That will not happen. But CCP can set a scene. Provide a backround for RP in a form of environments and some gameplay even. But what gameplay? Dress up and "/emote is RPing" is a nice thing to have now. What can this game do better for RPlayers?

We may RP while watching our character sit on a couch, everything written in chat channel, no lewd emotes, smooching animations and all the kinky stuff found for example in sims games.
But we dont need WIS for that.
I dont need WIS for that.

Most intense gameplay is PvP gameplay, for headshoots, tactical positioning, killstreaks and earning LP, SP, ISK by grinding meat with granade launchers. Tie actual gameplay with spaceships and lore tied imagery around them for a familiarity, to make them feel like its EVE. That is why Nova is still a thing.

Actual WIS expansion in EVE would be nice, but what to include? What you could add, while maybe tying it to Nova? Maybe something what could be in both games, shared assets, but without the meat grinding. Cassinos and things like pachinko machines, win ISK while playing mindclash? Pleasure hubs? Become a Gallente pole dancer for ISK? Cool

At this point I am thinking they can throw it in the expansion alongside spaceships stuff and nobody would bat an eye. Project discovery? Images classifications? Planet searching? People will do unbelievable things for rewards and gratification.

If you're talking about Avatar game content, there were a lot of different ideas presented to CCP after they requested player input for game content. And I'm not talking about just Dancing / Emoting either.

There were ideas ranging from 1v1 and Team Arena Obstacle Course matches to Stealth Assassination and Suicide 'Bomb Vest' Gank action to Breaking & Entering other players assets hangars. There were even ideas for Station Lock-down and Infiltration due to Sansha Incursion NPC's in which players were trapped inside or infiltrated locked stations, would ransack weapons / medical lockers and work as a team to destroy all NPC's deck by deck to unlock Station Docking Bays. There was even an idea for having a Maze in the lower deck of stations that would continuously reset or 'loop' itself as long as the Avatar went forward and if the Avatar turned around, it would be right back at the entrance point. Now if you had a map bought from a sleaze bag NPC on another deck, you could navigate the maze and contact Black Ops Agents or smuggle and trade Contraband with other players, etc. There was even an idea to use corpses in a secret lab to remove their implants (sorta like the old Hasbro 'Operation' game) and then sell them on the market.

The list of ideas was endless which even included new skills for Avatar game play but for some reason most of the Anti-WiS people could only see Avatar game play content as Dancing / Emoting / Dress Up.

Ugh


DMC
Caldari Citizen 588668196
Nighthawk Exploration
#1303 - 2017-04-13 12:31:34 UTC
Nana Skalski wrote:
Of course, yes, but you cant justify all that WIS to CCP because it would be good mainly for RPlayers. I think we could agree to that. Every MMoRPG game I played, RP was noticable, but niche activity. I have seen people achieving their kicks other way usually. By kicking butts left and right and craving for more butts to be kicked. It happened this was all a background for RP of all kinds. If CCP would have to do WIS, then not for RPlayers like us as the main target. CCP could provide background and gameplay appealing to vider audience, and then add some additional tools for RP, more than "/emote". It have a greater chance of success I think.

Sure, totally agree.

Well mostly, I think. I think the idea of it kinda brings even non-RPers into deeper, more enjoyable immersion too.

I think of it this way; In the space side of the game everyone here wishes it to be as real an experience as possible. The game never stops evolving, we want better graphics, better sound, more realistic effects here or there, all this talk of VR etc etc. We get immersed deeper because of all these things. We don't need them though, in fact some of these things are inconvenient and intensive in a technical sense. We could just be dots running around a map, but we want it to look and feel like the real deal.

You don't have to be an RPer to find extra immersion having to, say, hack a relic site by entering some ruin with your avatar. To get together for fun times with your corpies, taking your drunken group avatar screenshots. You might even be encouraged to do it, with things you can only buy/do/complete by getting out of your ship and walking to some vendor or agent in station.

I think if something like WiS was just dumped on us people would ultimately lap it up in so many ways. I don't think the resistance we read on the forum accurately represents the people who'd turn their back utterly on all these features experiences ingame if they existed. *shrugs* I dunno.

But ultimately you're right. I don't think avatar stuff will eventuate to satiate a niche crowd, it'll creep in naturally over time like natural evolution. As we see more items released, more items again, better computers, better ingame technology, better software, other games all doing their avatar thing. People will have all these lovely avs, tons of items, and nothing to do with them directly. Meanwhile the tech make it happen gets better, cheaper, and we all get better computers too, people end up asking why we can't do simple stuff with these avatars. Even today I think the attitude towards avatar stuff has changed drastically in the eve community since 4 years ago.

4 more years it'll shifted even further.
Caldari Citizen 588668196
Nighthawk Exploration
#1304 - 2017-04-13 12:35:58 UTC
mr ed thehouseofed wrote:
Big smile

MR ED !!!!!! ShockedShocked

Heya!

DeMichael Crimson
Republic University
Minmatar Republic
#1305 - 2017-04-13 12:37:22 UTC
mr ed thehouseofed wrote:
Big smile

Who is this stranger grinning from ear to ear ?

Blink

Hello mr ed thehouseofed, glad to see you're back again.



DMC
Caldari Citizen 728425284
MewMew Mining
#1306 - 2017-04-13 12:40:56 UTC
Caldari Citizen 588668196 wrote:
mr ed thehouseofed wrote:
Big smile

MR ED !!!!!! ShockedShocked

Heya!


Hope you've been well, Mr Ed Smile

Many hugs from Dusette squad in Tassie.

Hengle Teron
Red Sky Morning
The Amarr Militia.
#1307 - 2017-04-13 12:48:37 UTC
Hey, remember that times when your newly created character actually started in the CQ?
mr ed thehouseofed
Pator Tech School
Minmatar Republic
#1308 - 2017-04-13 12:51:20 UTC
Caldari Citizen 588668196 wrote:
mr ed thehouseofed wrote:
Big smile

MR ED !!!!!! ShockedShocked

Heya!




Caldari Citizen 728425284 wrote:
Caldari Citizen 588668196 wrote:
mr ed thehouseofed wrote:
Big smile

MR ED !!!!!! ShockedShocked

Heya!


Hope you've been well, Mr Ed Smile

Many hugs from Dusette squad in Tassie.



how you going? many hugs to the dusette squad Smile
there seems to be a lot of you now Lol hows everything your way




i want a eve pinball machine...  confirming  CCP Cognac is best cognac

mr ed thehouseofed
Pator Tech School
Minmatar Republic
#1309 - 2017-04-13 12:52:29 UTC
DeMichael Crimson wrote:
mr ed thehouseofed wrote:
Big smile

Who is this stranger grinning from ear to ear ?

Blink

Hello mr ed thehouseofed, glad to see you're back again.



DMC



gday DMC hows life treating you

i want a eve pinball machine...  confirming  CCP Cognac is best cognac

Erica Dusette
Division 13
#1310 - 2017-04-13 13:04:01 UTC
Hengle Teron wrote:
Hey, remember that times when your newly created character actually started in the CQ?

And there was no ship spinning! Shocked

mr ed thehouseofed wrote:
how you going? many hugs to the dusette squad Smile
there seems to be a lot of you now Lol hows everything your way





About to hit the hay actually, but not bad thanks! Been a very long and rough year or two. But I really can't complain now.

Only came back to eve myself a few weeks back

How's life been for you and yours? Smile

Jack Miton > you be nice or you're sleeping on the couch again!

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mr ed thehouseofed
Pator Tech School
Minmatar Republic
#1311 - 2017-04-13 13:45:07 UTC
Erica Dusette wrote:
Hengle Teron wrote:
Hey, remember that times when your newly created character actually started in the CQ?

And there was no ship spinning! Shocked

mr ed thehouseofed wrote:
how you going? many hugs to the dusette squad Smile
there seems to be a lot of you now Lol hows everything your way





About to hit the hay actually, but not bad thanks! Been a very long and rough year or two. But I really can't complain now.

Only came back to eve myself a few weeks back

How's life been for you and yours? Smile


soz to here that , glad its going along fine Big smile

been pretty good myself, moved house got a cheaper rental really nice place.
add i have a addition to the house of edP

:)

i want a eve pinball machine...  confirming  CCP Cognac is best cognac

Yiole Gionglao
#1312 - 2017-04-13 13:58:38 UTC
Erica Dusette wrote:
Yiole Gionglao wrote:
*checks wallet balance*

Yeah, I have those 3 billion ISK, thx to the couple of weeks I spent running Drifter Incursions. So it's a bet. Pirate

Woo! Let's all hope Shelby's right then. Lol

You can never rely on the 'vision' for EVE staying the same, the developers within it, the CEO even. It's all ever-changing and evolving. But there's always one thing that never changes, and that you can count on to give direction and that is money and profit.

That's why I love microtransactions, always have in every game. Oops

I can't wait for the aurum change. Look at all the berets, hats and new outfits out there already. People do, and will, buy this sh*t and they will buy it by the ton (hopefully). For those of us who want more avatar development then that can only ever be a good thing. Cool


You should have read the terms of the bet...

Quote:
but I bet you triple to one that the day EVE shuts down, there won't be no trace of the CQ in it.


*whistles innocently*

Roses are red / Violets are blue / I am an alpha / And so it's you

Hengle Teron
Red Sky Morning
The Amarr Militia.
#1313 - 2017-04-13 14:26:58 UTC
Not a day has passed, and you're already backing down on your bet?
Nana Skalski
Taisaanat Kotei
EDENCOM DEFENSIVE INITIATIVE
#1314 - 2017-04-13 14:31:37 UTC  |  Edited by: Nana Skalski
EVE foreva. \o/

Everyone knows EVE is dying infinitely, its like hell in those horror movies, where people peek into hell and are left traumatized to the end of life. Event horizon and stuff.
Kaaeliaa
Tyrannos Sunset
#1315 - 2017-04-13 14:34:27 UTC
Got honeycomb shades installed on all of my windows at the new house yesterday, and they look glorious.

Also, I don't feel like I'm living in a fishbowl where anyone walking by can just look inside. So that's good.

"Do not lift the veil. Do not show the door. Do not split the dream."

Nana Skalski
Taisaanat Kotei
EDENCOM DEFENSIVE INITIATIVE
#1316 - 2017-04-13 14:38:41 UTC
Yiole Gionglao
#1317 - 2017-04-13 14:59:26 UTC
Hengle Teron wrote:
Not a day has passed, and you're already backing down on your bet?


Absolutely not. I will give Shelby 3 billion ISK if the CQ still is present the day EVE shuts down, thus she will vanish into nothingness with 3 billion ISK more. Conversely, if that day there's no CQ, she'll owe me 1 billion ISK. A bet is a bet, all the rest is vanity.

Roses are red / Violets are blue / I am an alpha / And so it's you

Nana Skalski
Taisaanat Kotei
EDENCOM DEFENSIVE INITIATIVE
#1318 - 2017-04-13 15:06:27 UTC  |  Edited by: Nana Skalski
Quote:
there won't be no trace of

Thats double negative. Cool

It actually means something opposite in spanish to something in english language. Paradox. Every bet is winning and losing simultanously.
Jin'taan
Be Nice Inc.
Prismatic Legion
#1319 - 2017-04-13 15:38:46 UTC
Shelby Dusette wrote:

One's avatar and name seemed so generic that initially they weren't even recognized as a CSM candidate, then the second one found themselves cornered with me wrapped around their ankle waving the avatar flag and well, yeah here we are.



Obviously I should ask for fashion advice from the cluster renowned LAGL crew!

Also, on the dev issue, I find it humorous that I see the same people clamouring for new PvE, new CQ content and little things fixes. CCP has a relatively limited dev team, I can't help but think that you feel CCP are simply sitting on their hands and not doing anything, despite the reveal of new PvE at Fanfest, and a refocus on the Empires for content after that. Prioritising your demands and sticking with them is fairly important when working with CCP, as one might be able to see from the CSM agreeing collectively last year on wanting more social PvE experiences. Of all the things you've discussed regarding the game DMC for example, if you had to pick one what would it be?

But yes, I've tried to make myself available even on the EvE-O forums - though I tend to stick to the CSM section.
Nana Skalski
Taisaanat Kotei
EDENCOM DEFENSIVE INITIATIVE
#1320 - 2017-04-13 15:44:19 UTC
Now when you are saying they have relatively limited dev team, I remember thinking before fanfest that they had a lot smaller teams. Now I am really thinking they play EVE all the time while in job. You know, "testing" stuff. Lol