EVE General Discussion

Sounds like you just exaggerated things so you could make a post that appealed to the resident forum PvPers.

Me too. I lost my lil venture to a cat(WHY?? I don't know) but it was my fault, but he did try to sell my body back to me. My ol lady was yelling at me while I was taking some quiet time so I jumped up to see what it was and it was only mop the kitchen and do EVERYTHING IN THE HOUSE!!! So I was tied up for 2 hours and that's what I came back to....

I have had to try both times I was killed. The first death I ever had, I flew my noobship all the way to Fountain, (pre-war) and had to orbit a station for five minutes, and announce myself, before someone obliged and podded me.

Full disclosure, I don't play very much, but I don't know. Aside from a few one off chat convos, this MMO is much like every other one. Very insular, and little actual "newbro" engagement.

Even in the "getting killed" department.

**** happens replace ship and move on

People will always be around to ruin others experience, just look at forum trolls, they don't care but like attention.

10 years ago in EVE every region has a bunch of ISK spammers flooding local. Not a problem for CCP not at all. CCP lost income to ISK spammers. Do you see a report ISK spammer button? Did it take years to program? No, CCP cares about money. Once a certain action is detrimental to the income they will insta ban each and every account linked to the actiosn that causes financial loss.

Some people say that "if you undock you are in imminent danger". That is a completely false statement. Once you go to an ore belt or mission area or discovered area you might become in danger. Once the people that abide that false statement will cause the loss of money for CCP they won't understand why they got banned. They just won't. But they will be removed from the game even if they still don't understand. Even if it was different before they will be banned.

Anyways, just make sure how you play does not force people to say "I am going to stop paying CCP" because then your account will no longer log in. It won't, trust me. Even if you don't understand, even if you think people should not undock without a permission from you. Because in the end if people block others from paying CCP those little cancers and all of their linked accounts will find themselves RL account ganked.

Ganking has existed in game since day 1. If it has yet to ever cause enough account loss for ccp to come down on it. Then they never will.

You're doing it again..

A my dear Bjorn, what you actually did was attack the screwed up worldview of people who need to have something to complain about and need to see things as screwed up (because seeing things that way is how they excuse their own incompetence in a video game in their own minds). I know how you felt when making your post man, there's not a day goes by when i read these forums that I don't think "Geez, it the game and CCP sucks that bad, how can these people be so stupid and to stick around".


I think many of us have had experiences with such people in real life. I go to work every night to a really cool job where I probably get paid more than I'm worth (I'd never say that to the brass though, to them it's "I need a raise" lol) and spend half that time listening to co-workers at the same really cool job complain about everything under the sun as if their situation is the worst thing that ever happened to anyone. When I explain to them that their are 2500 organizations like ours in our state and a total of more than 19,000 such organizations in our country and if this one is so horrible it's stupid to stay, they come up with the same exact excuses.

"I shouldn't have to leave, 'THEY' should fix it"

"I got too much time in/too old to start over somewhere else"

"This place as 'POTENTIAL', I'd hate to leave and one day hear how awesome it is"

Just like some of these folks in this game, some of my co-workers (now and in the past at other jobs) can't understand that their unhappiness is internal. Changing outside things (like our pay or the other little nagging things they complain about) might help short term, but long term they are right back to the unhappy state that started from.

This is easy to see in game. People press for "changes", CCP delivers (look at all the safety related changes they added since 2012, everything from buffed exhumers or anchor rigs, to the warp off mechanic to crimewatch to safety pop ups etc etc), and 10 seconds after the change to "change crowd" is back to complaining about something and asking for more change.

It's like they are delusional and think that there is some "end state" situation where things are changed enough to make them happy, when in reality that state cannot exist because they are incapable of being happy.

This is why I laugh at the "you just don't like change" people. I take joy in explaining to them that my reaction to their half baked idea isn't resistance to change, it's the understanding of how things are. If you can't FIRST be happy with what you have, no amount of change will ever make you happy (I explained this to a family member, told her that if she isn't happy now , getting married and having kids is going to make it all worse, not better, she didn't believe me then, 3 kids and a divorce later, she kinda does lol). My opposition is to the false narrative they've built up in their heads about themselves...

This here is the defensive reaction you get when what you are saying hits home. And I think everyone notices how you are propjecting on to me.

I'm not the one that's unhappy, i like the game, and I can tolerate it's people like CODE and Goons and marmite and the rest. I play EVE and enjoy it for what it is instead of "what it could be if only CCP would do what I tell them" lol.

And that's the point. The people who want change for changes sake, who are perpetually unhappy, who suggest modificaitons to the game not because they are needed but because the person making the proposal thinks it will make them happy etc, those people are the problem. You yourself did that recently , though to your extreme credit you seemed to indicate at the end that you understood that you had been wrong.

Your response is normal though, the worst thing one can ever do to an unhappy person is tell them that they are the root cause of their unhappiness rather than the external thing they laid the blame on. But I hope you understand that it isn't meant as something that's supposed to hurt you. Just expressing how god damn irritating that is to people like me (who are pretty happy with things and situations in life for the most part). Unhappy people are depressing as **** man.

BTW, I recently found an article about unhappiness. It's some good stuff in there, and might explain the perpetually depressed mood you see from people on this forum. Maybe they are addicted to unhappiness.

Been there, but chin up , it can get better, just gotta meet the right one

My ex hated EVE, that's not why she's the ex but I do laugh when i think EVE is still here while she is gone. My current wife has her own hobby she like s(she builds and sells custom dollhouses) and loves how EVE keeps me out of her hair for a couple hours every night even though she is in the same room I am. But she chuckles in my general direction when i get all excited over mumble about something. The running joke in my house is "did you get bombed again, or were you able to warp out this time?" lol.