EVE General Discussion

bu but, CCp would get more money. And because they got more money, they will make EVE totally Awesome and not ever spend a dime on anything not EVE...


...Or the opposite of that

All I see is, "Please don't let more players in to ruin my income by competing for the glorified missions I spend most of my time running."

Mr Epeen

You know with the introduction of Alpha accounts miners could just create one and set up in a new area of space to mine until things cool down. I get that you guys feel harassed and that you feel you have little skills, choices, or what not to fight back. EVE is a huge game that isn't easy at all really. You could try to fight back and fail, which has happened many times, and then feel the need to pay. And herein perhaps lies one of the problems that exacerbates things: You decide to pay up. They could be there to push you out of the system for other reasons, but mainly I think it's about getting you to pay up. Though sometimes they just want to blow up ships for the lols and easy targets cause why not?

I get also that if you don't pay up (or even if you do another wardec pops up and it starts over again) they will just keep wardec'ing you and thus you feel the need to dock up and not play. Perhaps the other part of the problem is that you tell these new players that this is the only way to deal with it. Then the issue doesn't become those that are attacking, but in your own mentality of how to counter. Am I missing something or has leaving the corp with just CEO in it and forming a new one been done away with while wardeced? This usually drove these guys nuts before, but maybe this isn't a thing anymore? But still you tell these people that the only solution is to dock up and not play and OF COURSE THEY ARE GOING TO LEAVE! ... Eve relies on it's players mostly for retention purposes, and thus relies on peoples ability to try and appeal to so many different peoples desires in regards to the game. And yet there are those like yourselves who want to do PVE things but when creating your own version of content you decide for some reason that anything that conflicts it is bad.

Look Eve is about conflict in the simplest of senses. You decide to build ships in corp A, but corp B wants to do the same and also mine in the same area. Maybe they don't like that and so they pay people to wardec you. The solution is to adapt if at all possible and try to fight back. You could perhaps pay a group to defend you as well, shocking I know. Highsec isn't safe though. I know you want to mine in peace, but until something comes along to show that wardec'ing in Highsec is bad for the game (prob never) you are going to have to adapt. Maybe CCP could add in some kind of safe space for mining though... I don't know. Maybe they could give you more tools to help you out somehow like allowing your corp to mine only in .7 and up and be immune for a few months to help you out. Even then eventually that protection would run out.

Eve is first an foremost a PvP game though OP. Some hate the fact that you guys never ever seem to want to leave highsec and just treat this as some PVE game. It does definitely have elements of PVE in it though and there's no arguing with that. But without PvP the game would perhaps allow you to just endlessly build up an armada of ships in total safety. That can't be allowed to happen sir, sorry. Everything comes with risk even simply mining in space. But instead of raging about it perhaps you should group up with other miners, form fleets more often, and become organized to defend your interests. That is Eve.

I think it is amusing seeing you argue with what you have said in other threads and I think you have got into a chicken or egg argument with yourself which has rather fascinated me.

Lots of ISK. Check
Never lost much. Check
Whores on lots of CONCORD kills. Check
Epeens in the forum over 'impressive' killboard. Check
Epeens in forum over size of wallet. Check
Rolls eyes at other players calling them arrogant while epeening. Check
Constantly whinges and whines to nerf other players. Check

Carebear through and through

Do you care to provide an example of what you are talking about or is this just another nonsensical deflection because your whole argumentation got picked apart and you try to make it look like you won something again?

And people ask themselves how AG can fail all day constantly at every opportunity all the time. No wonder if they have "leaders" like you. It's like they glued DrysonBenningthon and JTClone Ares together and inflated the ego some more.

I am not sure where you got the impression I was a leader of the AG, you keep saying that as if it means something to you and typical of your style, let me repeat it because you seem to ignore it, I was never a leader in AG, I did not have any mod rights on the forums, I was not even in the HSM. All I have done is act as a line member opposing ganks, I have also engaged the gankers on the forums.

I still think you were arguing with yourself and I stood back and watched in fascination, especially as I have seen you make the opposite point in different threads, anyway it is not important, just amusing, but it means something to you, what exactly I have no idea, point scoring perhaps...

Facts my dear boy, I know Aaron very well, I also know how difficult he had it, a lot of that due to his own errors, but he had fun and that is the main point.

There are a lot of things in this game that measure success, ISK and assets, killboard, even though it is not the whole story, how people relate to you in your corp and alliance and so on, but most important of all for me is being difficult to kill and not giving people easy kills.

Aaron decided to tell me that I did not understand the game so I pointed out by certain measurements that most people use that I in fact understand it better than him.

Now if that makes me arrogant reacting to his posts telling me that I never played Elite for example, or that I don't understand Eve then I can only point to my record against his and say really? So if you want to call me arrogant for that then go ahead, I have said that I am an average PvP'r but at least I do it and have fun, you have a decent killboard but there are some ganks in there, so what.

As for Shae, post with your main you loser.

You forgot Veers. Never forget the Belvar...

I mentioned this before as well, but for guys like Dracvlad he wants to also hide behind the skirts of CONCORD. Ironically, when I started a thread on how to get past this the guy never showed up, even after his whining about my closing the thread on the risk/reward of freighter ganking. I thought Black Pedro had a couple of interesting ideas that were in that thread.

The truth is, Dracvlad does not want a discussion he simply wants bumping removed. Nerfed literally out of existence. Now maybe suicide gankers will adapt and find a way to keep on rolling...or they won't and we'll get less suicide ganking. In the latter case, Dracvlad will be rewarding imprudent behavior. Why anyone would want to do that, I don't know. Stupidity?