EVE General Discussion

I effectively have no problem with that and we are indeed playing the same game. Well, I think since I can't verify if you do actually play EVE...

You are inferring things that have not been said.
You immediately assumed "strongly favouring" meant only current rates of LS cap PvP.

NS lol-cynos its JFs past LS.
NS doesnt care what you do in LS, nor have interest in LS cap PvP as long as they can continue doing so.

As others have pointed out, NS can flood LS with fleets should it wish to do so.
Currently they have no interest in LS, except as a fly-over sector to and from HS.

You would think it is possible someone could remember what they actually wrote.



It isn't me inferring anything and your claim about caps in lowsec was separate to the stupid point about jump freighters.

You clearly said, 'Secondary problem is caps in LS, especially with cyno, as overkill, and strongly favouring NS neighbours".

Your words.

Post your evidence of STFU, because you have no clue what you are talking about (as usual).

Oh so now it's LS PVE strongly favours NS neighbours.

Your arguments getting dumber and dumber every time you post.

You should just admit that you have no clue what you are talking about, that this 'strong favouring NS neighbours' BS is complete rubbish and at least save face.

If it strongly favours NS neighbours, there would be evidence of it.

Post it. Stop this dodging rubbish with non-sensical arguments and post some actual evidence that these cynos strongly favour NS neighbours bringing caps to LS.

Hell, even do it for PVE, since you can't for PVP.

Show how dominant PVE in LS is and how it so strongly favours NS coming to LS.

No, that again is a false inference.

The point is that caps are overkill for LS PvE content which raises the question why they can be flown there in the first place
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L5s can be run without them as a group effort.
Caps are massive overkill for LS DEDs/complexes.

There are 3400+ NS systems with PvE content tiered for caps.
There are only 800ish LS systems, with PvE content not tiered for caps.

Its categorically stupid to run LS PvE content in a cap, when you could be running cap content in NS.
Removing cyno/cap from LS has next to zero impact on running PvE content there.
You dont need cynos or caps to run them, and infact its foolish to do so with them.



1) The evidence you are asking for doesnt exist in killboards, because NS has no interest in LS, except as a fly-over sector.

Occasional lol-fleets and poorly planned/executed cap/JF destruction occurs, but is in no way representative of the strength of NS neighbors, in numbers, resources, caps etc to utterly overwhelm LS if they wanted to.

NS doesnt care about LS, except to fly its NS goods over it to HS and back.
There is absolutely nothing in LS that they cant do better in NS.
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Even destroying player structures is pointless there, as Asset Recovery means the LS entity only loses value of the structure itself. And since LS is not Sov space, there is even less incentive to destroy them. Instead, NS just makes its own player structures to use as strategic cynowarp points for said transit through LS. If LS engages those, they will get dropped on from NS with overwhelming force, or they will just shrug and setup another one. The cost is peanuts compared to the value of the material they are flying over LS to and from HS with JFs.

2) As a concrete example of current cyno/cap in LS favoring NS, is that NS interlopers operate in LS without having to deal with bubbles. Whereas an LS interloper into NS must deal with bubbles.



3) Why would you run crap PvE content in LS in a cap, rather than in more lucrative/blue NS?
Wtf is even your point?

Weak, very weak.
And constitutes trolling in and of itself.

Prove it.
Your boredom is not my problem. No one is forcing you to read or respond.
Believe me, your crap content here bores the hell out of me as well.
The irony of you demanding evidence when I specifically addressed that in my previous post.
Then you resort to "you dont have a clue" and "you are trolling", both which you cant substantiate and are just an excuse to avoid arguing the points made.

This isnt reddit, and Im not a push-over.
Try harder or gtfo the kitchen.

Sure, the occasional idiot/drunk blows up.

Its not even a fraction of total NS-HS transit past LS in JFs.

As I stated before, there is no killboard evidence of NS neighbor capacity to overwhelm LS with caps, because they have no incentive to do so. LS is crap space compared to NS. NS has zero interest in operating in LS. Its just something to cyno over with JFs to and from HS markets (Jita/Forge).

PS: You claimed I am trolling, why then are you posting to me?

Im not trolling though.
Im posting ontopic and at length, arguing issues, answering questions, reciprocally.

But you just admitted you are infact trolling.

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After your edited additions:

1) Prove that most of JF transport through LS is destroyed.

2) Post-change, NS will not be able to drop cyno/caps in LS.
LS PvP will be subcap, non-cyno, only.
The cap differential between LS and NS becomes irrelevant.

1) Why cant you prove that the majority of JFs cyno dont pass LS without destruction?
Why then do you expect me to be able to prove its opposite?

2) Read. The occasional idiot/drunk fails JF transit through LS.
Nobody has claimed that ALL 100% of JFs make it through LS.
Where did you get that idea into your head?

3) NS utterly dwarfs LS geographically, in wealth, resources, population, organisation and cap pilots.
Do you dispute this?

4) Since you clearly announced yourself as a deliberate troll, is this just more of the same?

(inb4 someone "else" answers these instead of Lan.)