EVE General Discussion

Yes,
Who are you carrying all those ore stacks for anyway? CCP? Is that it? CCP?
Why I'll tell you... let me give you... a little inside information about CCP.
CCP likes to be paid. He's a prankster.Think about it.

CCP gives capsuleers... a drive. He gives you this extraordinary gift, and then what does He do?
I swear, for ccp's own amusement... their own private, cosmic...gag reel... He sets the rules in opposition.

It's the goof of all time.

Mine ore, get ISK.
Buy skillbook, but don't inject.
Inject, but don't learn yet.
Learn, but don't rush.
And while you're warping from one jumppgate
to the next, what is CCP doing?

CCP's laughing his sick, ******* ass off!
CCP's a tightass! CCP's a sadist! CCP's an absentee landlord!

Subscribe to that? Never!

"Better to accumulate ISK to get PLEX than buy a subscription, is that it?"

Why not?

I'm here in the spacestation with my nose in it since the whole thing began!
I've nurtured every skill capsuleer has been inspired to have!
I cared about what ccp wanted and I never judged them!

Why? Because I never rejected him, in spite of all his imperfections!

I'm a fan of ccp!

…I'm a capsuleer.

Maybe the last capsuleer.

Who, in their right mind...
..., could possibly deny...
...that the enjoyment was entirely mine?
All of it, Bjorn!

All of it.
Mine.

I'm peaking, Bjorn.
It's my time now.
It's our time.

I'm in and out of Dodixie daily in my lowly freighter. No one notices me.

Great. I just outed myself.

Yeah, while most of the Mission Invasions and Suicide Gank attempts I experienced was in Minmatar space which is where I spent most of my time, it also happened in the other 3 main Empires as well.


DMC

Long story short it is lies. When you want to make a case for something you make it sound far, far worse than it is. So when people talk about freighter ganking they'll find the worst example and then deliberately make it out that, that is the norm. They also completely ignore that to get in that situation the player had to make a sequence of screw ups.

When I see posts on the forums about this is broken, that is an exploit, and this other thing is driving out new players the vast majority of it is people pushing their personal agenda. They mine in game, so naturally CODE. are bad and should face additional constraints or be eliminated entirely from the game. They move way too much stuff in their obelisk without a scout, and after anti-tanking their ship...so naturally suicide ganking is too easy and not risky enough. These people don't give a fig about the game or what is good for it. In truth, if their suggestions were acted on they'd likely ruin the game.

High Sec PKing happens mostly in Ice belts.

But I would agree with most a little caution helps much to reduce the chance of being killed in High Sec.

Low sec is another story, most is claimed by old players (mainly pirates) now days. Forget about having any sort of fun there as a new player. Most of the Pirates there have very high skills and hardware and game knowledge one would need at least 1-2 years of game time to offer any serious competition.

So if you had some success in low sec it was luck really.

The problem with the game is not so much High Sec PKing, as much as High Sec Boredom, and no other alrternative.

I think people who quit do so because they get Bored playing in High sec and not able to compete in Low sec and lower. It is why I think expanding High Sec to open up more content to people would go along way towards better player retention and give those players time to evolve and establishthemseves in such a way as to offer maybe even some competition to nulsec.

Everyone wants new players to fall in line and either become pirates or join nulsec corps. But what about those that want to either play with minimal combat or those that want to organize and challenge nulsec for their own corner of the galaxy?

And expanded HighSec could become the base from which new corps can organize and make a bid for nulsec.

Oh and by the way I am saying all this frorm the Fun perspective here, I do not care about profits calculations etc etc, In today;s EVE most players can just buy and sell a few Plexes and have some billions to play with for a couple of months. So no need to worry about how to be efficient in making money. That was the old EVE.

The new EVE is about having fun, and it is not always up to par, needs work.

Here's what I think is going on:

Different people have different reactions to adrenaline. For some people a shot of adrenaline leaves them feeling good. They get "The Rush". For some, it's neither here nor there. For some, adrenaline leaves them feeling absolutely terrible. For days.

People play a game for fun and/or enjoyment. Something that ruins the experience for them, something that leaves them feeling terrible for days, is something to complain about. Even if it only happens a couple of times a year. The result is even though the chances of being ganked in high sec, or even being attacked in non-high are low, for some players the consequences to how they feel is very very high.

I talked to Dr Dew Pinsky about this, and he said that our response to adrenaline is genetic. We are born with it.

You may ask: Why would not such persons play a different game? Well, what Sci Fi space flight single shard MMORPG with a player driven economy would you suggest? It turns out Eve is a totally unique game, there are no substitutes. Thus, the best course of action is to work to change it.

I don't fly anything worth ganking unless you want to take a sec/isk hit. If you do actually gank one of my ships, I have 10 more just like it in the station. Podded? np, not carrying implants anyway.

calm down miner. It's actually called elite-PvP not PK

It just means that you had risen over the other newbies who had no idea what they were doing and actually git somewhat gud.

Congratulations.

I recently lost an expensive pod in hisec.

It was my own fault.

See, I take ownership of my failures, and learn from them. I don't blame others.