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[March] Character's Total Net Worth estimation

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Deckel
Island Paradise
#81 - 2017-03-22 19:51:47 UTC
I'm curious how the value of fitted ships are being calculated. Are the values calculated the same as the fittings window, or just the inventory asset screen? Or are all modules contained within the ship individually calculated separately? And does this calculation include the fitted rigs?

Also, are fitted implants on active or jump clones included in the calculation at all?
Circumstantial Evidence
#82 - 2017-03-22 22:34:55 UTC
Deckel wrote:
Also, are fitted implants on active or jump clones included in the calculation at all?
No... and, check this post for more Q&A.
Koopman van Luxe
Hedion University
Amarr Empire
#83 - 2017-03-22 23:29:36 UTC
Renee Frost wrote:
Just checked out the total net worth estimate and it is telling me I have 10+ billion ISK in assets, which I certainly didn't have.


Having a similar issue, one of my characters has about twice as much reported net worth in assets than what the station hangar totals are adding up to. I've pruned down my hangars to the two big ones, don't have anything stuck in market escrow or contracts, and I just can't figure out where all of this money is coming from.

Now, I'll admit I'm pretty bad at keeping track of my stuff, but I'm pretty sure I don't remember venting several billion isk worth of assets into space, where it has apparently been kept safe all this time.
Deckel
Island Paradise
#84 - 2017-03-22 23:36:54 UTC
Circumstantial Evidence wrote:
Deckel wrote:
Also, are fitted implants on active or jump clones included in the calculation at all?
No... and, check this post for more Q&A.


Sry, Looks like I missed that one point about implants already being addressed. Still wondering about the fit ships though.
Sgt Ocker
What Corp is it
#85 - 2017-03-23 11:27:42 UTC
Deckel wrote:
Circumstantial Evidence wrote:
Deckel wrote:
Also, are fitted implants on active or jump clones included in the calculation at all?
No... and, check this post for more Q&A.


Sry, Looks like I missed that one point about implants already being addressed. Still wondering about the fit ships though.

It seems to take mods fit to ships into account. A couple of my cyno chars have nothing but a rookie ship with cyno fit and a total net worth of of 2.7 million isk + a bit of isk for LO.

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It really is getting harder and harder to justify $23 a month for each sub.

Bjorn Tyrson
Brutor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#86 - 2017-03-23 16:15:15 UTC
Really not sure how this is calculating total value. just logged on to one of my sp farm alts. who has exactly 1 shuttle, less than 1 mil in wallet, and 2 implants plugged in. and its showing almost a billion in total net worth.

unless something has changed, the calculation should not include SP, implants, etc. and yet apparently my shuttle is worth almost a billion isk SOMEWHERE out there.
Sgt Ocker
What Corp is it
#87 - 2017-03-24 01:50:59 UTC
Bjorn Tyrson wrote:
Really not sure how this is calculating total value. just logged on to one of my sp farm alts. who has exactly 1 shuttle, less than 1 mil in wallet, and 2 implants plugged in. and its showing almost a billion in total net worth.

unless something has changed, the calculation should not include SP, implants, etc. and yet apparently my shuttle is worth almost a billion isk SOMEWHERE out there.

Does it have any extractors or injectors in its inventory?

They would add up to a bil quite easily...

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It really is getting harder and harder to justify $23 a month for each sub.

Cade Windstalker
#88 - 2017-03-24 02:00:53 UTC
Bjorn Tyrson wrote:
Really not sure how this is calculating total value. just logged on to one of my sp farm alts. who has exactly 1 shuttle, less than 1 mil in wallet, and 2 implants plugged in. and its showing almost a billion in total net worth.

unless something has changed, the calculation should not include SP, implants, etc. and yet apparently my shuttle is worth almost a billion isk SOMEWHERE out there.


A couple of people have reported something similar.

I'd suggest filing a bug report, from that character.
Bjorn Tyrson
Brutor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#89 - 2017-03-24 04:09:08 UTC
Cade Windstalker wrote:
Bjorn Tyrson wrote:
Really not sure how this is calculating total value. just logged on to one of my sp farm alts. who has exactly 1 shuttle, less than 1 mil in wallet, and 2 implants plugged in. and its showing almost a billion in total net worth.

unless something has changed, the calculation should not include SP, implants, etc. and yet apparently my shuttle is worth almost a billion isk SOMEWHERE out there.


A couple of people have reported something similar.

I'd suggest filing a bug report, from that character.


I probably will, its not anything game breaking or anything, but it was just a weird thing I noticed.
Rivr Luzade
Coreli Corporation
Pandemic Legion
#90 - 2017-03-24 08:42:15 UTC  |  Edited by: Rivr Luzade
Is there a reason why the value varies greatly sometimes? I sometimes observe a difference of several billions in ISK from day to day.

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Tragot Gomndor
Three Sword Inc
#91 - 2017-03-24 10:46:12 UTC
This feature is still bugged, file a bug report :D

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Becca Shard
Doomheim
#92 - 2017-03-24 11:19:23 UTC
Question.
It seems this net worth tool includes the value of injected skillbooks in the calculation.
Why?
You can not [at least currently hint hint] UN-Inject a skillbook.
Yes they have/had value, but you can't sell them, so they shouldn't be added.
Cade Windstalker
#93 - 2017-03-24 16:11:53 UTC
Becca Shard wrote:
Question.
It seems this net worth tool includes the value of injected skillbooks in the calculation.
Why?
You can not [at least currently hint hint] UN-Inject a skillbook.
Yes they have/had value, but you can't sell them, so they shouldn't be added.


This has been tested this with a new character, it doesn't include skill book value (or at least doesn't normally).

If you want to test this create a new alt, get the starter skillbook from the tutorial, check your net worth. Then inject the skillbook and note the drop (after 5 minutes when it recalculates) in value of ~40k ISK IIRC.

Bjorn Tyrson wrote:
I probably will, its not anything game breaking or anything, but it was just a weird thing I noticed.


Yeah, I'm just suggesting people do this since it helps CCP, and there's always a chance this might be a result of a more impactful bug somewhere else in the code.

Never not file bug reports! Big smile
CCP Turtlepower
C C P
C C P Alliance
#94 - 2017-03-24 16:23:39 UTC
Hey guys,

Thanks to your bug reports, we've verified that indeed some injected skills and some plugged in implants are currently being counted towards the Total Net Worth. They should not be counted and we are working on fixing it :)

Please keep on filing bug reports if you notice any other weirdness with the feature. Thanks!

o7
CCP Turtlepower
Razgar Patnovich
Brave Newbies Inc.
Brave Collective
#95 - 2017-03-24 17:57:02 UTC
It would be nice to have a break-out of net worth by region, if that were possible.
Bad Breath Angelo
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#96 - 2017-03-24 19:52:28 UTC
CCP Turtlepower wrote:
Hey guys,

Thanks to your bug reports, we've verified that indeed some injected skills and some plugged in implants are currently being counted towards the Total Net Worth. They should not be counted and we are working on fixing it :)

Please keep on filing bug reports if you notice any other weirdness with the feature. Thanks!

o7
CCP Turtlepower


Wow, I used the search function and got my answer. In regards to this, can I ask what the reasoning is behind NOT including injected implants? I'd actually prefer it if injected implants were included as they show as part of the total value on killmails. I don't care if it lumps everything together or breaks out a separate value for implants or something.

Just my $0.02 on helping me wave my epeen around.
Becca Shard
Doomheim
#97 - 2017-03-25 06:53:47 UTC
Bad Breath Angelo wrote:


Wow, I used the search function and got my answer. In regards to this, can I ask what the reasoning is behind NOT including injected implants? I'd actually prefer it if injected implants were included as they show as part of the total value on killmails. I don't care if it lumps everything together or breaks out a separate value for implants or something.

Just my $0.02 on helping me wave my epeen around.


Mainly because this tool is more meant to show you how much ISK and salable items you own are worth.
Since you can not sell injected skillbooks nor implants there really isn't a reason to include them.

However ! Looking at you CCP, it would be a nice compromise if in the ship hangar window you calculated the current worth of pods to reflect the current clones implants.

Or possibly showing the value of each clone in the jump clone window?
Rick Wroll
The Order of Omerta
No Forks Given
#98 - 2017-04-02 02:24:45 UTC
So I have now tested this feature and can verify it's way off because of something.

I transferred all assets and isk to another character and then waited for it to refresh. It still says I have a value of over 1 bil in assets. If I've got a billion floating in space somewhere I'd sure like to know where.

Is there any way to search for assets floating in space?

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Marcus Tedric
Zebra Corp
Goonswarm Federation
#99 - 2017-04-02 11:07:40 UTC
Like it...

Still obvious anomalies though. I do find it strange that, where things are otherwise reasonably tidy and not many extraneous assets; that the Titan pilot has assets rather less than the Super' pilot...

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The Dauphin
Dauphin Enterprises Inc.
#100 - 2017-04-02 14:44:34 UTC
Totally useless to me unless you factor in the stuff I have in Corporate wallets, structures and warehouses. Plus this information should be private anyway, as mentioned is it going to be available in API. I have enough problems with the revenuers.