EVE General Discussion

How do you fund your PvP?

and they actually remove ISK from the economy

(well, industry doesn't remove that much ISK from the economy because of Tyrannis, but you see where I'm going)

Whatever is convenient, LP sales, market bingo, incursions, plexing WHs.

Whatever is close and fast.

Low payout.

Incursions account as a small contribution as an ISK faucet to the game, less than 5%.

OP consider how much income generation might be injected into the system globally from all the mission runners in the game? Then add in all the other isk generating processes.

Even so, having said that the recent CSM minutes annouced that CCP reported a current inflation value of 1% and as such wasn't an issue anyway.

I wish people would stop the inflation witch hunt with incursions, it seems to be the weak minded who need to use the possibly obvious or as a propoganda tool for selfish interests as the reason and use no information to support their incorrect claims. And yet in reality the main cause of any concern, which has been reported doesnt exist anyhow, would largely be from other aspects of the game.

This is before considering the monitoring and economy specialists who help to tweak game mechanics (both faucets and sinks) to ensure stability.

Has anyone actually stopped to think that rising prices might be due to normal supply and demand. And also linked with the "flow" of money rather than its availability. As people compete to sell things as traders they are trying to offer the best deal. So in principle there must be sufficient demand for items (or turnover) to afford the production and retail. One possible reason could be the ongoing destruction of ships, cargo and modules that allow for some replacements to be bought from the market. So largely you could similarly speculate that price "increases" may be a result of "ganking" or other PvP related activities rather than player rewards.

Scare mongering or not, speculative claims that are incorrect just make you look stupid.

Inflation is well under control in EVE at about 1%/month. So that is not the issue with incursions. It is in the CSM minutes.

The real issue is that it seems to cater to a raid-like low risk ISK farming mentality and that certainly is a threat to the longevity of EVE. My fear is that Incursions become to popular and attracts a new crowd of players that wants to mold EVE into WOW-raids in space. PvP flagging is next. And then EVE is dead.

I stand corrected, I thought it was a larger percentage

Still I think the amount of ISK being destroyed compared to being created is one of the main causes of the degredation of pvp, when people talk of the glory days of eve it really seems to be because of the mentality of pilots then. I agree we dont want eve to be raids in space but I think we are sadly already well on the way.

In the interest of having a single point of feedback on the current incursion situation, I would ask everyone to use this thread for feedback, suggestions, calls to action, etc. Please refer to this post for a more detailed explanation.