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Law in EVE

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Ralph King-Griffin
New Eden Tech Support
#41 - 2017-03-13 23:40:38 UTC
Herzog Wolfhammer wrote:
Law in Eve implies lawyers in Eve.

To imply we need that then it's as if we wanted something worse than CODE.

oh come off it , you enjoy winding the internetspacelawyers up as much as i do.
Guardians of the Gate
RAZOR Alliance
#42 - 2017-03-13 23:49:22 UTC
Teckos Pech wrote:

The notion of law is not really feasible in game, IMO. As others have noted there are cultural norms and rules, but they do not rise to the level of law in the sense of courts, contracts, and so forth. The reason for this that there is virtually no way to enforce say, a contract in EVE outside of what CCP has given us. One could try to go after the party that breaks the contract in game, but that in itself is costly and really becomes something like thowing good ISK after bad.

This portion of your reply, in regards to what Darren posited earlier regarding arbitration outside of the legal frameworks, is entirely true of real world entities as well. When it becomes to costly to advance arbitration or judgement by legal means often a psuedo court, kangaroo court or lynching/vigilantism occurs in real life all the time.

The "Red Pen" of Code, or the blacklisting of individuals or corporations in Eve is one of these silent enforcements. As is ganking as a last resort to disrupt someones playstyle.

I am reminded of the Japanese Fruit Inspection. A load of fruit had arrived on the Japanese dockyards from a country/supplier they didnt want to trade in Japan but could not, for any legal means, stop. So they unloaded the said fruit onto the docks and let it sit there in the sun for a few weeks until an "inspector" could get around to inspecting the load of fruit. Needless to say the wait had caused the fruit to spoil and start to rot and so when the inspector saw this he simply denied it on health grounds. Charged the shipping company the unloaded and reloading fee and sent it back. The Japanese got paid and the supplier was out an entire shipment of fruit plus added expenses.

Often there are other ways of denial rather than "legal" means.

Have you heard anything I've said?

You said it's all circling the drain, the whole universe. Right?

That's right.

Had to end sometime.

virm pasuul
Imperial Academy
Amarr Empire
#43 - 2017-03-14 10:45:32 UTC  |  Edited by: virm pasuul
Law in Eve is merely a continuation of the Stanford Prison Experiment by other means.
- von Clausewitz
Dom Arkaral
Cuttlefish Collective
#44 - 2017-03-14 14:52:40 UTC  |  Edited by: Dom Arkaral
There are only 3 laws that are enforced:
The New Halaima Code of Conduct, enforced by players
And the EULA, enforced by CCP, GMs and ISDs

I can't think of any other laws that are enforced on a minutely basis, maybe Bob's law (he really needs those corpses)

Tear Gatherer. Quebecker. Has no Honer. Salt Harvester.

Broadcast 4 Reps -- YOU ARE NOT ALONE, EVER

Instigator of the First ISD Thunderdome

CCL Loyalist

Salvos Rhoska
#45 - 2017-03-14 17:45:08 UTC  |  Edited by: Salvos Rhoska
"Do what thou wilt shall be the whole of the Law. Love is the law, love under will."

Meaning do for that and which you love, but be held to it.
Revis Owen
Krigmakt Elite
#46 - 2017-03-14 18:42:33 UTC
Salvos Rhoska wrote:
"Do what thou wilt

That's the law highsec miners seemed to follow for the longest time, and look how wretched they became.

Then a superb man and law came to highsec. James 315 and His Code. Highsec has been getting better ever since!

Agent of the New Order If you do not have a current Mining Permit, please contact me for issuance.

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