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So finally people will fight against Suicide Ganks and Harrasments

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1Lt Aldo Raine
Doomheim
#361 - 2017-02-22 17:58:45 UTC
I agree with my esteemed colleague, Dracvlad.

Also, the absolute best way (and possibly only way) to help fight ganking is to get involved in that fight.

Get yourself to the anti-ganking channel. Roll a anti-ganker alt, start training in ECM, and sign up for the High Sec Militia.

Proud member of the High Sec Militia, the combat arm of the Anti-Ganking movement.
Serendipity Lost
Repo Industries
#362 - 2017-02-22 19:48:38 UTC
Just bump the bumping mach - that's the best plan. Don't wait for the mach to start bumping something either. If you see a mach loitering on a Niarja gate - start bumping it. Bump bump bump. Then bump some more.

It's easy, no sec status hits and it will drive them crazy.

Get a few of your own machs, fit for bumping and have at it. BUMP BUMP BUMP.


You guys are making this way to difficult. The ECM burst route is a big hassle and code can drag your ECM alts to -10 in no time. Then you have to work their sec status up OR risk the alt recycling route (not advisable).


bump bump bump
Lucas Lucias
Taishi Combine
Astral Alliance
#363 - 2017-02-22 20:07:03 UTC
Serendipity Lost wrote:
Just bump the bumping mach - that's the best plan. Don't wait for the mach to start bumping something either. If you see a mach loitering on a Niarja gate - start bumping it. Bump bump bump. Then bump some more.

It's easy, no sec status hits and it will drive them crazy.

Get a few of your own machs, fit for bumping and have at it. BUMP BUMP BUMP.


You guys are making this way to difficult. The ECM burst route is a big hassle and code can drag your ECM alts to -10 in no time. Then you have to work their sec status up OR risk the alt recycling route (not advisable).


bump bump bump


Miss miss miss...
1Lt Aldo Raine
Doomheim
#364 - 2017-02-22 22:03:43 UTC
Serendipity Lost wrote:
Just bump the bumping mach - that's the best plan. Don't wait for the mach to start bumping something either. If you see a mach loitering on a Niarja gate - start bumping it. Bump bump bump. Then bump some more.

It's easy, no sec status hits and it will drive them crazy.

Get a few of your own machs, fit for bumping and have at it. BUMP BUMP BUMP.


You guys are making this way to difficult. The ECM burst route is a big hassle and code can drag your ECM alts to -10 in no time. Then you have to work their sec status up OR risk the alt recycling route (not advisable).


bump bump bump


I don't want to hijack the thread. But your absolutely right. Counter bumping works, and we have some sweet videos to prove it. That being said there is a time and a place for different tactics. The human shields that Jason was using, we've found a solution to it, and recycling is not it. Big smile

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Sasha Nemtsov
Federal Navy Academy
Gallente Federation
#365 - 2017-02-22 22:24:44 UTC  |  Edited by: Sasha Nemtsov
Serendipity Lost wrote:


Get a few of your own machs, fit for bumping and have at it. BUMP BUMP BUMP.


Hi Serendipity; although the Machariel isn't a fantastically long train, the Highsec carebear-would-be-anti-gankers are not going to divert 'valuable' training time away from their mining yield-focused efforts.

As usual, they'll leave it to someone else - the dedicated anti-ganker, no doubt; and there seem to be pitifully few of those around. This is no doubt because, unlike Code Enforcement, anti-ganking as a profession poses a singularly unattractive prospect to someone looking for meaningful gameplay with a reasonable chance of success.

How about using a re-purposed Orca?

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Serendipity Lost
Repo Industries
#366 - 2017-02-23 14:43:47 UTC
Sasha Nemtsov wrote:
Serendipity Lost wrote:


Get a few of your own machs, fit for bumping and have at it. BUMP BUMP BUMP.


Hi Serendipity; although the Machariel isn't a fantastically long train, the Highsec carebear-would-be-anti-gankers are not going to divert 'valuable' training time away from their mining yield-focused efforts.

As usual, they'll leave it to someone else - the dedicated anti-ganker, no doubt; and there seem to be pitifully few of those around. This is no doubt because, unlike Code Enforcement, anti-ganking as a profession poses a singularly unattractive prospect to someone looking for meaningful gameplay with a reasonable chance of success.

How about using a re-purposed Orca?



I'm just putting tools in the box. I don't really care if anyone uses them.

True story, one of my guys (probably a year and a half back) was transporting way too much stuff in an orca. A mach got on to him in niarja and started bumping him. Lucky for him he was not afk and was on comms. He alerted us (the rest of the corp) and we dropped everything and started burning to his aid. I think our closest out route (we be wh folk) was a LS 20 or so jumps out. We brought what we could and after 20 minutes from the 'help me help me!' call - we got him on his way safely. What we learned. Once bumping starts no amount of webbing can get the guy into warp if the bumping mach pilot has any skill at all. We had up to 10 webs on the guy (several of which were 90% via ship bonus and all of which were faction). I won't bore anyone w/ the mechanics details and why webs just don't work once the bumping is in progress - it doesn't. So, when webbing proved useless we turned to bumping the mach. We didn't have bumping machs to counter (why would we??). What we had were a collection of frigates and huggins. We turned to the bumping mach and started hammering away at it. As a few posts above pointed out, there where quite a few misses. We finally got a bump on him while he was turning and the tables turned instantly as he became the beach ball and we became the players carelessly tossing him across the way. Just that one good bump to get him going and we owned him. Our orca pilot was on his way and we threw a few salutes in local and that was that.

I don't expect most corps to perform as above. To be fair, wh folk are forever bumping each other off of wh to prevent jump through (advanced non K-space pvp doesn't have aggression timers on wh - it's a different sort of timer involved), so bumping folks out of wh jump range is pretty common. In general, we're pretty good at it do to lots of practice. I would wager the average k-space corp doesn't have the experience, so mach bumping may not be as easy for them.

Summary - bumping works. Mach bumping works. If folks just as a normal practice bumped any mach loitering on a gate or in the process of bumping something big - Eve would be a great place. In my ideal Eve everyone passing through a gate and seeing a mach would give it a bump or two. Anyone seeing a mach bumping a freighter/orca/whatever would join in the bumping for a few minutes (and I don't care who they bump, just get involved a bit). Many great relationships both in and out of Eve have begun with a simple bump. Everyone should give it a go from time to time.

To the gates lads - bump bump bump. It gets easier as you get experience at it.
Lucas Lucias
Taishi Combine
Astral Alliance
#367 - 2017-02-24 16:10:48 UTC
Serendipity Lost wrote:
Sasha Nemtsov wrote:
Serendipity Lost wrote:


Get a few of your own machs, fit for bumping and have at it. BUMP BUMP BUMP.


Hi Serendipity; although the Machariel isn't a fantastically long train, the Highsec carebear-would-be-anti-gankers are not going to divert 'valuable' training time away from their mining yield-focused efforts.

As usual, they'll leave it to someone else - the dedicated anti-ganker, no doubt; and there seem to be pitifully few of those around. This is no doubt because, unlike Code Enforcement, anti-ganking as a profession poses a singularly unattractive prospect to someone looking for meaningful gameplay with a reasonable chance of success.

How about using a re-purposed Orca?



I'm just putting tools in the box. I don't really care if anyone uses them.

True story, one of my guys (probably a year and a half back) was transporting way too much stuff in an orca. A mach got on to him in niarja and started bumping him. Lucky for him he was not afk and was on comms. He alerted us (the rest of the corp) and we dropped everything and started burning to his aid. I think our closest out route (we be wh folk) was a LS 20 or so jumps out. We brought what we could and after 20 minutes from the 'help me help me!' call - we got him on his way safely. What we learned. Once bumping starts no amount of webbing can get the guy into warp if the bumping mach pilot has any skill at all. We had up to 10 webs on the guy (several of which were 90% via ship bonus and all of which were faction). I won't bore anyone w/ the mechanics details and why webs just don't work once the bumping is in progress - it doesn't. So, when webbing proved useless we turned to bumping the mach. We didn't have bumping machs to counter (why would we??). What we had were a collection of frigates and huggins. We turned to the bumping mach and started hammering away at it. As a few posts above pointed out, there where quite a few misses. We finally got a bump on him while he was turning and the tables turned instantly as he became the beach ball and we became the players carelessly tossing him across the way. Just that one good bump to get him going and we owned him. Our orca pilot was on his way and we threw a few salutes in local and that was that.

I don't expect most corps to perform as above. To be fair, wh folk are forever bumping each other off of wh to prevent jump through (advanced non K-space pvp doesn't have aggression timers on wh - it's a different sort of timer involved), so bumping folks out of wh jump range is pretty common. In general, we're pretty good at it do to lots of practice. I would wager the average k-space corp doesn't have the experience, so mach bumping may not be as easy for them.

Summary - bumping works. Mach bumping works. If folks just as a normal practice bumped any mach loitering on a gate or in the process of bumping something big - Eve would be a great place. In my ideal Eve everyone passing through a gate and seeing a mach would give it a bump or two. Anyone seeing a mach bumping a freighter/orca/whatever would join in the bumping for a few minutes (and I don't care who they bump, just get involved a bit). Many great relationships both in and out of Eve have begun with a simple bump. Everyone should give it a go from time to time.

To the gates lads - bump bump bump. It gets easier as you get experience at it.


Good post would read again, actually I did.
Janeos
Sebiestor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#368 - 2017-02-26 02:17:43 UTC
Serendipity Lost wrote:
Sasha Nemtsov wrote:
Serendipity Lost wrote:


Get a few of your own machs, fit for bumping and have at it. BUMP BUMP BUMP.


Hi Serendipity; although the Machariel isn't a fantastically long train, the Highsec carebear-would-be-anti-gankers are not going to divert 'valuable' training time away from their mining yield-focused efforts.

As usual, they'll leave it to someone else - the dedicated anti-ganker, no doubt; and there seem to be pitifully few of those around. This is no doubt because, unlike Code Enforcement, anti-ganking as a profession poses a singularly unattractive prospect to someone looking for meaningful gameplay with a reasonable chance of success.

How about using a re-purposed Orca?
...

I'm just putting tools in the box. I don't really care if anyone uses them.

I don't expect most corps to perform as above. To be fair, wh folk are forever bumping each other off of wh to prevent jump through (advanced non K-space pvp doesn't have aggression timers on wh - it's a different sort of timer involved), so bumping folks out of wh jump range is pretty common. In general, we're pretty good at it do to lots of practice. I would wager the average k-space corp doesn't have the experience, so mach bumping may not be as easy for them.
...

I don't think you're aware how much more advanced your understanding of this game is from the average high-sec pubbie.
BJBee 9999
Ministry of War
Amarr Empire
#369 - 2017-02-26 02:57:07 UTC
wow, do you guys hate kids?

we are ganking for kids and you going on and doing that! wow, you are very bad people.
Lawrence Lawton
The Lawton School for Pubbies Who Can't Mine Good
Novus Ordo.
#370 - 2017-02-26 20:50:56 UTC
There are many excellent counters for bumping and ganking. Most of them require being prepared and having a support network. Carebears who play EVE like a solo game fail here.
Keno Skir
#371 - 2017-03-07 17:25:41 UTC
OP : You and all your little anti ganking friends don't enough ISK to have a meaningful effect of the mineral market in Hisec so stop pretending. Using the forums to make yoru organization appear bigger and better organized than it really is makes you a bit like CODE. except they do it in an interesting way Bear

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Hazel TuckerTS
Doomheim
#372 - 2017-03-08 04:36:44 UTC
Lawrence Lawton wrote:
There are many excellent counters for bumping and ganking. Most of them require being prepared and having a support network. Carebears who play EVE like a solo game fail here.



shut up...code is dead...move on already.

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Baexx
Doomheim
#373 - 2017-03-09 20:13:25 UTC
Hazel TuckerTS wrote:
Lawrence Lawton wrote:
There are many excellent counters for bumping and ganking. Most of them require being prepared and having a support network. Carebears who play EVE like a solo game fail here.



shut up...code is dead...move on already.



New Eden is quite remarkable nowdays, i wonder why.
Dom Arkaral
Bannheim
Cuttlefish Collective
#374 - 2017-03-09 20:45:50 UTC
Baexx wrote:
Hazel TuckerTS wrote:
Lawrence Lawton wrote:
There are many excellent counters for bumping and ganking. Most of them require being prepared and having a support network. Carebears who play EVE like a solo game fail here.



shut up...code is dead...move on already.



New Eden is quite remarkable nowdays, i wonder why.

How's your "we will buy every minerals in every hub thing doing? Lol

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Noragen Neirfallas
Emotional Net Loss
#375 - 2017-03-09 21:29:22 UTC
Dom Arkaral wrote:
Baexx wrote:
Hazel TuckerTS wrote:
Lawrence Lawton wrote:
There are many excellent counters for bumping and ganking. Most of them require being prepared and having a support network. Carebears who play EVE like a solo game fail here.



shut up...code is dead...move on already.



New Eden is quite remarkable nowdays, i wonder why.

How's your "we will buy every minerals in every hub thing doing? Lol

As well as predicted if market data is anything to go off. And by predicted I mean predicted by the 'trolls'

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Baexx
Doomheim
#376 - 2017-03-10 06:25:53 UTC
Dom Arkaral wrote:
Baexx wrote:
Hazel TuckerTS wrote:
Lawrence Lawton wrote:
There are many excellent counters for bumping and ganking. Most of them require being prepared and having a support network. Carebears who play EVE like a solo game fail here.



shut up...code is dead...move on already.



New Eden is quite remarkable nowdays, i wonder why.

How's your "we will buy every minerals in every hub thing doing? Lol


The miners in New Eden is a bit safer now, and that is a milestone.
Dom Arkaral
Bannheim
Cuttlefish Collective
#377 - 2017-03-10 10:24:46 UTC
Baexx wrote:
Dom Arkaral wrote:
Baexx wrote:
Hazel TuckerTS wrote:
Lawrence Lawton wrote:
There are many excellent counters for bumping and ganking. Most of them require being prepared and having a support network. Carebears who play EVE like a solo game fail here.



shut up...code is dead...move on already.



New Eden is quite remarkable nowdays, i wonder why.

How's your "we will buy every minerals in every hub thing doing? Lol


The miners in New Eden is a bit safer now, and that is a milestone.

How so? Lmao

Tear Gatherer. Quebecker. Has no Honer. Salt Harvester.

Broadcast 4 Reps -- YOU ARE NOT ALONE, EVER

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Keno Skir
#378 - 2017-03-10 10:53:19 UTC
Baexx wrote:
Dom Arkaral wrote:
Baexx wrote:
Hazel TuckerTS wrote:
Lawrence Lawton wrote:
There are many excellent counters for bumping and ganking. Most of them require being prepared and having a support network. Carebears who play EVE like a solo game fail here.



shut up...code is dead...move on already.



New Eden is quite remarkable nowdays, i wonder why.

How's your "we will buy every minerals in every hub thing doing? Lol


The miners in New Eden is a bit safer now, and that is a milestone.


Wut? No they aren't you've done nothing aside from squawk on the forums Pirate

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Ima Wreckyou
The Conference Elite
Safety.
#379 - 2017-03-10 18:30:12 UTC
It's the old AG strategy of just pretending CODE. is dead. Works only until you undock your Hulk.

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Hazel TuckerTS
Doomheim
#380 - 2017-03-11 00:02:56 UTC
Ima Wreckyou wrote:
It's the old AG strategy of just pretending CODE. is dead. Works only until you undock your Hulk.

Been afk mining ALL day.
code is dead shut up already loser

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