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I'm flattered. No, no wait, that's the sarcasm bouncing off my forehead, my bad.

Seriously though, I'm not an expert on anything, I've gone for breadth of experience not depth. The only things I have that other people seem to lack are a general understanding on how a lot of the wider pieces fit together and the ability to separate an evidence based argument from an appeal to emotion.

Also no, I haven't always supported CCP. I was pretty against the Serpentis ships keeping their web bonus at the current strength, though I have to admit that hasn't caused anything like the problems I thought it might. Most of the time though if I don't have a constructive argument for or against something I just stay out of it. Most of the time if I don't like something I either look into the numbers and end up proving myself wrong, and thus don't post, or I can't form a coherent argument against what's being proposed and thus don't post. There are enough incoherent arguments on these forums already without me adding mine to the pile.

Was kind of surprised that it's been 2.5k posts already though. Time flies!

Anyways as to the hardcore Rorqual pilots, or at least the hardcore miners, sitting in a POS doesn't really count as piloting, you really do have my sympathies. It seems like the problem isn't so much you guys as all the combat and ratting pilots who took a look at the numbers and jumped on the Rorqual train.

All the High Sec miners who can't really PLEX right now have my sympathies too though, and I'd personally pick their side over someone who can fly a Rorqual and still make a PLEX in <10 hours any day.

So my hunch was right

Sorry to hear about your account

I am leaning toward just letting my accounts expire and watching the mayhem from the sideline

When nullsec cant build supers and titans without importing minerals again......then stuff will get real. So much for nullsec supporting themselves.

And its really too bad that anyone believes the average high sec miner plexes their account by mining .......one ganking loss causes many to just quit.....let alone sit all day and mine.

ROFL

I'm not a CCP employee, if I was I'd have been fired already for the crap I say on here.

Besides which only a few people at CCP get to actually hand out bans, precisely to prevent the kind of thing you're saying I did.

Which is hilarious by the way, since I don't think I've even seen anything in here remotely forum-ban worthy from either of you

You should get out more by the way. Meet new people, experience new areas of the game. I know a decent number of High Sec miners (and a few gankers, and mission runners, ect) and a decent number of people do in fact PLEX their accounts by mining. Quite a few of them are combat pilots the rest of the time, they mine when they don't have the time or attention span for anything else to make ISK to pay for PLEX and buy ships to go lose in Low and Null.



How about because if it was true someone in IA at CCP would have had an anyeurism. Oh and whichever CCP employee I'm supposed to be would be fired and "Cade" would immediately cease to exist. Outed CCP dev normal accounts get put into Witness Protection where the old identity basically gets scrubbed from the game and the character and all their stuff get whisked away somewhere else.

Seriously though, thanks for the laugh all. These accusations are hilarious. Childish, but hilarious.

Will the Excavators be effected by the Mining Foreman Link module?

Nope, mining boosts don't affect drones.



Not sure where to start with this so how about here.

Your interpretation of the raw data here is misinformed.

Megacyte and Mexallon are production bottlenecks based on the current distribution of Null minerals and what people were mining based on value. What this means is that as the supply of all minerals has risen these have lagged behind somewhat. This means other people are willing to pay more for them to be able to produce stuff with the more abundant minerals they have in large quantities.

The fact that we've seen these values plateau and even start to fall in the last month and change is strong evidence of a general mineral over supply beyond what the economy can absorb. This is also supported by that increase in volume sitting on the market, since that value generally remains fairly stable barring large changes to the game or to mining behavior, such as major wars.

On top of this the main source of ore is in Null, so High Sec is actually somewhat insulated from the glut of minerals, because transporting even compressed high end ores from Null to High Sec is fairly expensive and risky relative to the returns it provides. If you look at the Null markets you'll see minerals like Trit going from slightly above High Sec prices to significantly below them, and even Mexallon and Megacyte aren't showing the kind of large spikes in price that would be characteristic of a sharp rise in demand and a constricted supply.

Lastly, regarding terminology, this is pretty clearly a crash. Trit is down to prices that haven't been seen in 4 years, and Trit tends to be very very price responsive since the entire market volume clears out every few days. Same goes for Pyerite except we last saw these levels almost *5* years ago in 2012. When the price of something drops through 5 years worth of increases in a few months that is a crash.

Lastly, the Rorqual is clearly the source of this issue. The yields on barges and exhumers didn't change. This drop in mineral prices clearly corresponds to the introduction of the new Rorqual and the Excavator drones.





Denial proves exactly nothing. I mean, I could just ignore this and not respond to it, but it's so hilarious I'm doing it for my own amusement. It's been a while since someone seriously accused me of being a CCP dev, and even claiming a ban because you spoke up in this thread is above and beyond the call of trolling.

That just tells me that you don't have any actual facts or solid arguments against the changes so you're just sowing as much chaos and mistrust as you can, either for your own amusement or out of spite. I will thank you for the laugh though, it's been a long week and I needed the amusement

Fozzie already addressed why this is less ideal. They're already seeing people using PANIC as an "oh ****" button for Entosis, applying the same to tackle just lets the Rorqual be used as initial heavy Tackle and then swap out safely with PANIC when seriously threatened.

Also Rorquals as Cynos isn't really an issue, and being able to shut one off on demand would actually be an advantage in some circumstances since anyone can warp to an active Cyno.

I'm really not sure why everyone is freaking out over, of all things, the rock-lock-on thing. The only way for someone to realistically take advantage of this is to be sitting there watching you mine, at which point even in the current system there are ways for them to screw you over and kill you.

Haha at all you people complaining what if I jump a gate. What if they get me off station? Why Can't I PANIC!!!@#$@%#$%

You die that's what happens. Welcome to EVE where your safety isn't guaranteed <3

So couse some big entities can mining in rorqual 23/7 you punish those, who can't? This is the lamest "fix" since I play this game.

Idk where all the tears are coming from. Since the rorqual got its new roll, and in every patch since, ccp has said

We will continue to make changes to keep prices in check


If your skill-injector-flogged brains can't comprehend that, don't buy a rorqual.

Seriously CCP, why do you people listen to Fozzie???

Who exactly is it he works for, even though you pay him it's obvious by the way he's constantly trying to kill the game that he's been working for another mmog for years.

I know you people come up with most of your ideas while sitting together in a very small room smoking what ever crap it is you smoke there, but whos peace pipe is it that fozzie crawls around on his hands and knees smoking to stay working there?