EVE General Discussion

Going out on a limb here.

If the magical "save the drones" method was made impossible somehow but the mining income of Rorq stays the same, would it be acceptable?

Good and well intended suggestion.

But the problem is not in how defensible or expensive Rorqs or their drones are, its in their overall yield from lucrative space.

Rorqs are like super cows, feeding off the most lucrative fields in all of EVE, yielding enormous amounts of milk, far beyond the capacity of other cows in different less lucrative fields.

I think their defensive options are fine, its their yield that is the problem.

Indeed, though there are a few separate reasons for Rorq hatred depending who you ask. I just mean that the risk vs reward calc for Rorqs in space is kind of broken due to an un-forseen (i think) work around to save the majority of the ISK in the event of death. If the ISK outlay is put in the necessary amount of risk we should see less Rorqs deployed and less ore mined, while keeping the function and capital stats the same.

There would still be complaints, but the least of any solution i can think of. I don't mine or anything but a multi billion ISK mining ship should make sh*t loads of ISK, however should also be risky enough to justify the income. I'm not sure if CCP saw the drone saving mechanic before it happened or if it's all working as intended so if anyone would like to enlighten me go for it

Well, I'm glad we've removed one nail from the Rorqual's coffin... I really can't comment on the underlying mineral and ore mechanics as I'm not well-versed enough to really understand it.

ppl have called for a nerf to hs incursions repeatedly

Some of the numbers stated here are a bit daft. muh ticks in a rorqual probably work out at 200-300M p/h depending on how lazy i'm being, with T2 core/reasonable skills and considering buyback margin/shipping and fuel consumption costs. I think that's a pretty reasonable return for the risk of sieging an 11Bn asset in null security space.

And yes it is a risk. Follow zkillboard and you'll see who are actively and successfully hunting these capital ships along with super-carriers. Deep blue null and intel mean nothing when wh based groups roll their static into your mining system. You can P.A.N.I.C. but the ship will simply die when the invulnerability cycle ends unless the pilot and alliance are properly prepared and organised.

active modules cycling while in P.A.N.I.C. is complete BS though, agreed.

Roquals are fine.

I very much enjoyed reading through this thread just to see how disconnected people are from how the game works.

First of all, Rorquals don't make anything even remotely close to 750m/hour.

Secondly, Rorquals die left and right every day. https://zkillboard.com/ship/28352/losses/

Thirdly, a lot more Rorquals should be dying, but unfortunately the vast majority of EVE's population are a bunch of pathetic risk averse carebears that don't have the balls to field anything close to 1/10 of the value a Rorqual pilot risks when starting his siege cycle.

This does not matter as long as the final product get destroyed. The amount that move and is produced don't really change anything as long as the destroyed totals keep up.